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To divorce or overreacting?

401 replies

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

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dottiedodah · 03/11/2025 13:21

My DH doesnt plan dates either really.He is always happy to go out (he drives as well) I do too but not long distance . I really think YABVU .The things on here are shocking ! Men can be very cruel and selfish at times .You are lucky to have a good one !

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 13:22

TodaRythm · 03/11/2025 13:10

Yep, she's a Zoomer. A generation that grew up surrounded by apps and technology which only offer short-term satisfaction in the form of dopamine kicks, while wiping out the appreciation of genuine real-life relationships that require hard work and understanding.

Yep. And watching Instagrams and TikTok's of everyone's perfect lives and "date nights" and love languages.

We have a girl who works in our office who is late 20s and everything she does is staged for social media. A meal out at the pub "cosy date night with my love 😍". A morning in bed "perfect autumn morning with this one ❤". Obviously with accompanying perfectly filtered photos. The reality is she moans about her boyfriend CONSTANTLY. About how he's always out with his mates and disappears on drink and drug fuelled benders for weekends at a time. They break up and get back together on a regular basis. Literally everything she posts is for show.

Someone said to me recently to think of influencers as actors. All of their "real life" posts are acting. They are set up for a camera. They involve multiple takes, hours of editing (and most likely arguments) and are as far removed from reality as you can get. There is no difference in watching someone on TikTok to watching Eastenders or Coronation St.

RealReginaPhalange · 03/11/2025 13:22

Must be a wind up 🙄

BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 13:22

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 13:12

On a serious note OP, I actually probably would consider divorce. But don't just use it to threaten him to behave how you want him to. Actually do it. Because this man isn't going to make you happy and it's unfair to him to drag him along for years expecting him to fulfil your every single demand.

Yes. He deserves someone who appreciates his good points (which OP admits is many). He can’t fill the void in OP’s make-up so he should be allowed to meet someone else. OP should carry on her therapy and may, if she’s particularly lucky, meet someone who is all that and more.

FaveCultPen · 03/11/2025 13:23

I have been married to a brilliant man for 40 years. We have shared housework, Cooking and childcare since day one. Getting on even better since the kids left home. But I plan all the holidays. I have asked him to but he doesn’t. I am occasionally frustrated. Would I end an amazing marriage because of that? No way!

Wardrobemarker · 03/11/2025 13:23

Have you ever read some of the posts on mumsnet regarding some men's behaviour and your moaning and thinking of divorce because your DH is not vocal enough about saying how much he loves you. Seriously cop the f**k on.

OhShitImNearly40 · 03/11/2025 13:24

Sillysalamander · 03/11/2025 13:06

It’s her BPD. Incredible hard to be in a relationship with someone that has BPD as even when things are fine they are never satisfied or satiated and the BPD makes it hard for them to maintain or be ok with stability. OP needs to work on herself and not her husband who isn’t doing anything and she’s discussing divorce. If I were him I’d be suggesting if she brings it up again I will divorce her for being ok with using it over my head over nothing. It’s not ok.

This. I’ve got BPD and romantic relationships are a nightmare so I’ve had to accept I’m not capable of them. Very similar reasons.

AquaForce · 03/11/2025 13:25

OrangeRhymesWith · 03/11/2025 11:31

This is your BPD, creating issues to match your dysregulated emotions, I mean this kindly but get therapy to tolerate these emotions rather than projecting the issue onto DH. The emptiness you say you feel is due to BPD not him. The call is coming from inside the house, if you divorce nothing will change and you'll do this pattern over and over however if you get therapy (particularly DBT) something may change - work on you before divorce

This.

The emptiness is a classic BPD symptom. An aching chasm that's never satiated long term.

There's an expression - every where you go, there you are.

Getting the BPD under control is the key. Trying to create a permanent distraction from it in the external world is impossible and exhausting.

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 13:25

dottiedodah · 03/11/2025 13:21

My DH doesnt plan dates either really.He is always happy to go out (he drives as well) I do too but not long distance . I really think YABVU .The things on here are shocking ! Men can be very cruel and selfish at times .You are lucky to have a good one !

Men can be very cruel and selfish at times

Evidently, so can women.....

KittyMacNitty · 03/11/2025 13:26

I would buy a copy of Men are from Mars, Women from Venus and read it.

You cannot change him, but you can change your responses to him. Work on you, that's the thing.

IsItSnowing · 03/11/2025 13:26

You can't actually be serious. Do you read MN much? Look at all lazy, waste of space men that are out there and treat their wives appalling - the stories are on here all the time.
Then you poor DH isn't constantly praising you and giving you verbal reassurance so you want to dump him. Given your need for this OT assurances where do you think you are going to find such a prince.
Honestly, you need therapy to deal with your own issues.
This really doesn't sound as though your DH is the problem here.

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 13:27

Wardrobemarker · 03/11/2025 13:23

Have you ever read some of the posts on mumsnet regarding some men's behaviour and your moaning and thinking of divorce because your DH is not vocal enough about saying how much he loves you. Seriously cop the f**k on.

I mean, he only tells her twice a day. But apparently that isn't enough 🙄

Anxietybummer · 03/11/2025 13:28

Yikes. If this is your bar and you’re willing to walk away from an almost perfect guy, then you’re going to be very lonely I’m afraid.

have you considered therapy? I don’t mean that in a passive aggressive way, it’s a genuine suggestion. Your probably be happier if you didn’t need so much external validation.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 13:28

Scoffingbiscuits · 03/11/2025 12:43

Getting your husband to break contact with some of your family because they've treated you badly is a red flag for me. So, just since you introduced your husband to your family, you've fallen out with some of them to that extreme extent?
It seems to be very easy to treat you badly. The level of entitlement is off the scale. I'm curious about what you bring to the table. I'm going to make a wild guess and guess that you're extremely attractive?

When did I say I got him to break contact? And I said HIS family. He chose to do so because they were constantly ullying, spreading rumours about me (and him) and berating me.

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Attempt333 · 03/11/2025 13:29

You asked for perspective and that what you have been given. To divorce over this is madness..

Chenecinquantecinq · 03/11/2025 13:29

I'm convinced part of the problem with society nowadays is people have no comprehension/experience of real problems.

Mwwoman · 03/11/2025 13:34

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 13:28

When did I say I got him to break contact? And I said HIS family. He chose to do so because they were constantly ullying, spreading rumours about me (and him) and berating me.

I can’t help wondering whether his family just expressed their anxiety about the way you don’t seem to appreciate your DH.

Scoffingbiscuits · 03/11/2025 13:35

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 13:28

When did I say I got him to break contact? And I said HIS family. He chose to do so because they were constantly ullying, spreading rumours about me (and him) and berating me.

Yes, I see. Getting him to break contact with some of his OWN family is actually much, much worse. I'm getting a very strong sense that you're bad news. You're someone who never feels that she's treated as well as she deserves, and who breaks contact with people (in the case of your husband that would be a divorce) over very little.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 13:37

Sillysalamander · 03/11/2025 13:16

Because she’s abusive in many ways. Financially, has cut her husband off from his own family, holds divorce over his head for something as minor as she has to occasionally plan dates out when he’s happy to spend quality time at home and doing other things. I bet they probably do a lot at weekends too, but because it’s not HER idea of a date it’s not good enough. I feel awful for this guy. Flip the genders and imagine being threats for divorce because you e jumped every time but you like to be at home and will go out when your husband wants but because he plans it as it’s his interests and you pay and go along he’s still threatening to divorce you. It’s horrible.

Why do you keep saying I cut him off from his own family? He made the decision to do that and I actually persuaded him not to. His own mother bullied me for years and he used to beg to defend me and to speak to her and I would beg him NOT to because I knew it would cause issues & when he finally went behind my back to discuss with her, it did blow up (because she is a diagnosed narcissist). SO no I did not cut him off from his family, he cut two people off because they treated me like shit. The rest of the family are on his side.

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Kerry14J · 03/11/2025 13:38

For you to think about this so much and come onto Mumsnet asking opinions it is clearly a matter high enough in your own priorities that you would consider leaving the relationship over this. Ultimately this is all that counts. So good for you acknowledging this. To all the women saying you must be mad, they’re not walking in your shoes.
You could try modelling the behaviour you want to see by treating yourself to nights out with friends. If you’ve lost any friends/haven’t met your people yet, it’s always welcomed to reach out or join new “meet up” groups. This could help you provide balance and fulfilment and also, could show hubby how much you enjoy these night/brunches out, to which for a man such as you’re describing, will mean he joins in and starts meeting you at your love language to. Sometimes men are better shown than told. I’m sure it’ll all go just fine. Good luck and well done on acknowledging your needs in a relationship.

Joanissy · 03/11/2025 13:38

I stopped reading as this is ridiculous.

BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 13:39

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 13:37

Why do you keep saying I cut him off from his own family? He made the decision to do that and I actually persuaded him not to. His own mother bullied me for years and he used to beg to defend me and to speak to her and I would beg him NOT to because I knew it would cause issues & when he finally went behind my back to discuss with her, it did blow up (because she is a diagnosed narcissist). SO no I did not cut him off from his family, he cut two people off because they treated me like shit. The rest of the family are on his side.

Are you planning on staying single after your divorce or are you hoping to meet someone else?

rwalker · 03/11/2025 13:39

2 things
1)the grass isn’t always green in all honesty the chance of finding someone perfect is slim to none

  1. with kindness you sound very needed it can drain the life out of any relationship and if anything going on about it can have a negative affect and push him away you seriously risk damaging your relationship

also it all seems very much you you you

sorry it that sounds harsh

SendhelpToddlerBoy566 · 03/11/2025 13:42

Grow up.

Or go away as I suspect this is totally made up.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 13:43

Mwwoman · 03/11/2025 13:34

I can’t help wondering whether his family just expressed their anxiety about the way you don’t seem to appreciate your DH.

No. They used to call me names like fat cow etc. because I gained 5kg after marriage, the mother laughed at me when I had a miscarriage, she was talking shit about me and calling me sensitive for mourning my really close uncle who died. DH moved out years before we got married and had a terrible relationship with her and I am the one who mended it and would push him to let us visit etc. because I wanted a happy life with my in laws, but I quickly learned why he did not get on with her.

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