New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

[Muffinmam]

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

If they - they being anyone who has the power - would put their money where their mouth is and unsealed the documents relating to Andrew's years as Trade Envoy - representing the UK - that might go some way to mitigating the PR disaster they are dealing with now.

William would do well to separate the church from the royal family and run it more like a secular institution. That could make the monarchy be more modern, focused on representation and inclusive in a diverse country. He should slim down the royal family along the lines of the Scandi model, focusing on direct heirs and removing titles from family members who don’t have a working role. There should be an expectations for 'spares' to learn a profession and be expected to earn an honest living when they grow up.

I know not to get my news from TikTok, but someone posted a few weeks ago their theory on why the US hasn’t released the files. They suggested it was because it wasn’t just girls (who cares about girls) but because it was also boys. Powerful men would be far more embarrassed by boys.

I haven’t stopped thinking about it since

nothing to see there, move along!

It’s because there are literally 100s of rich powerful men who were involved with Epstein in some way, although not necessarily with the girls. He was good friends with Trump and Clinton. Clinton has been subpoenaed to appear before the congressional committee investigation into Epstein. However nothing truly seismic is likely to be uncovered while Trump is in office. He has the power to shut down the entire thing.

Like the Queen. God only knows how they managed to have a son like Andrew - none of his siblings are sexual weirdos like him, either!

Rumours circulated about Andrew's parentage from the moment he was born (If not before!). He was supposed to have been fathered by the Queen's racehorse trainer Lord Porchester. I suspect that was the case. Andrew was probably not fully accepted by Prince Philip, who had to keep schtum, and it's why he was her favourite son.

I think it's wrong that people can lose everything by being attacked by men who take what they want, and then get away with it, which is the FAR more likely scenario. Men are more likely to be raped themselves than falsely accused of rape: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gang-rape-trial-ayia-napa-false-accusation-sexual-assault-cyprus-israel-a9131796.html

If Andrew was having helicopters delivering girls (and boys?) to yachts then the Royal Family was not just aware but complicit. Security officers would have been aware of everything and reporting it all and the late Queen clearly allowed him just to carry on.

KCIII is hardly free of scandal himself. Friendships/relationships with 3 paedophiles that we are aware of: Saville, Ball and Mountbatten. No doubt there's more. I hope there's a referendum to vote to abolish the monarchy in my lifetime, I suspect it would be far more popular than they think.

The photo in itself wasn’t damning. Andrew damned himself with the Emily Maitless interview, all by himself.
He failed to offer any sympathy for Epstein's victims, and did not regret his association with Epstein.

Then there are the lies -
He was photographed with a woman he couldn’t remember meeting, on the upstairs landing of a house he’d never been upstairs in.
He wasn’t there because he was at Pizza Hut in Woking.
He couldn’t sweat.
Pull the other one! And then the arrogant twat thought the interview had gone well. More recently of course we have the proof that his last meeting with Epstein was not, as he stated, around the time of that walk in Central Park.

When it came out that Mandelson was involved, I suspected straight away that boys could be involved. What’s the “yum,yum” email about?

I can fully understand why any one of the victims wouldn’t want to come forward. Maybe they were afraid, maybe they were ashamed, maybe they didn’t want their reputation trashed, maybe they just wanted to move on, who knows?

I wonder why Beatrice and Eugenie haven’t issued a statement stating their solidarity with the poor victims, especially as Eugenie is involved with a charity supporting abused women?

Ah, I saw a lot of comments last week wondering if the timing of last week's announcement signalled a desire to get ahead of more revelations. Looks like this might be it.

I agree that there is much more to come out yet.
The Lownie book is absolutely shocking and I haven't even got to the Epstein bit. The amount of money Fergie made, we are talking millions and millions, from the Budgie books, Weightwatchers, photoshoots, appearances.. and still she took hundreds of thousands from various rich men, who were queuing up to bail her out. She would take money from anyone! She had effectively won the lottery many times over and still spent it all, leaving bills unpaid. It's almost unbelievable. Quite disgusting in a way. She has outearned Harry and Meghan by a factor of 10, I'd say.

I’d take, oh yes - we went to PE for petunias 11th birthday which was on the Wednesday that week. Here’s a photo with AMB in the background. As the accused date is a Friday, it’s entirely possible we didn’t go on the actual day of her birthday and waited until the Friday.

To be fair, I know people who have been in pizza restaurants at the same time as current royals and then been asked to delete any photos they may have taken, but even without a photo, you’d be backing the prince up. There’s a lot not to lose for anyone who knew him to be in a pizza restaurant at that approximate time to speak up, but rather more for any trafficked and abused girls who hopefully now have thier own families (and I hope, haven’t succumbed to PTSD).

Michael Wolff alleges that there are photos of Trump with both underage boys and girls. Only an allegation so far.

To be fair here the fact mandelson was there would say is indicative of boys being trafficked, I do not think it is Evidence Andrew had sex with boys. Not saying he didn’t, and if they were there at the same time, it meant he would have known, but I personally don’t see it as evidence andrew did that.

I reckon there will be a lot more information about Andrew formerly a prince. I really don't know how the royals will recover from all this.

The family will be doing very nicely from her death if they inherited the pay off by QE.

And this hideous comment.

VG children will have suffered significant emotional deprivation before their poor mother took her own life when they were estranged from her. They have a lifetime of huge distress around what their mother suffered, how she coped etc played out on the global media. No $$$ will compensate for the MH issues they will be left with and without their mother.

Mandelson will need a new line to hide behind if it's true Epstein was also trafficking boys. He's used being gay and Epstein being a trafficker of girls as his 'I know nothing' shield.

A colleague of mine said a few years ago that he was aware of Andrew basically taking his pick of young men when in the army or visiting- told this by a good friend of his who witnessed it.

Thought it would only be a matter of time before this came out if true.

C'mon then and tell us what your Aunt knows

God, is there anyway to block these threads? Its so boring.

Until theres actual evidence and not just hearsay and whispers cant you find something else to talk about?

I'm sure you know perfectly well there's a Hide button. Or you could go and watch the BBC for some carefully orchestrated propaganda?

@Horsie
So many. Here's a couple to get you started.

Girls? They are almost 40yo women.

Who had plenty of time to come up, at the very least, with some sort of public statement.

The same was said of Mountbatten

Or ‘Dear uncle Dickie’ to the Windsors

Investigate the whole lot of them