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New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

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Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

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Noideawhyitsanissue · 03/11/2025 12:19

coxesorangepippin · 03/11/2025 01:30

Lord above

Let's hope this is the catalyst that's needed

I totally agree but also feel slightly sad if the trafficking of boys is the catalyst as it implies that society will stand up more against crimes against males as if it’s more shocking somehow

80smonster · 03/11/2025 12:25

I believe there are other legally substantiated allegations, from witnesses who are thought to offer credible testimonies. Which is why Andrew has been booted out and also referenced lightly in the statement made by old Charlie boy. The palaces legal team have clearly looked over whatever is being alleged and believes it could easily be corroborated via evidence and witnesses. Handsy Andy should be sent to live somewhere else, unsupported by UK tax payers, possibly that is what the RF also has in mind.

OonaStubbs · 03/11/2025 12:25

"A live boy or a dead girl" is a quote from a long time ago.

OonaStubbs · 03/11/2025 12:27

OonaStubbs · 03/11/2025 12:25

"A live boy or a dead girl" is a quote from a long time ago.

I looked it up and the full quote from US policitian Edwin Edwards is "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

Olivebranch123 · 03/11/2025 12:28

Simonjt · 03/11/2025 06:06

No, it was an Israeli PM EB.

Tony Blaire was convicted of " cottaging " I don't know the legal term. Basically caught having sex with another male in a public lavatory. This is public information, anyone can look this up.

Alittlefrustrated · 03/11/2025 12:28

DBD1975 · 03/11/2025 08:11

I think there is a reason the King has acted now, there is more to come.
I think Andrew will be extradited to America to give evidence and Sarah as well.
If the pair of them don't end up serving time I will be very surprised.
They both have made some very dubious choices and mixed with some very dubious people.

In your dreams. I do agree the King knows there is more to come though.

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 12:29

luckylavender · 03/11/2025 10:45

Can we not leave the girls alone please?

Interestingly, so many people refer to two women in their 30's as girls yet see Virginia who was a trafficked teenager as a woman who was a willing participant in her encounters with Mr M W . I do feel a bit of sympathy for them, as all these revelations must be awful for them but they have the resources to dip out of the public eye

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 12:30

Olivebranch123 · 03/11/2025 12:28

Tony Blaire was convicted of " cottaging " I don't know the legal term. Basically caught having sex with another male in a public lavatory. This is public information, anyone can look this up.

I looked up Tony Blair and cottaging. Can’t find anything. Not anything from a reputable source anyway.

OonaStubbs · 03/11/2025 12:30

Olivebranch123 · 03/11/2025 12:28

Tony Blaire was convicted of " cottaging " I don't know the legal term. Basically caught having sex with another male in a public lavatory. This is public information, anyone can look this up.

He was? It is?

RubySquid · 03/11/2025 12:32

Horsie · 03/11/2025 08:44

My respect for the late Queen has taken a nose-dive. She was totally unable to wrangle her family. She should have completely removed all titles from both Andrew and the Sussexes.

Yet on here people are extroverted to stand up for their kids no matter what Double standards

RubySquid · 03/11/2025 12:33

CleverTraybake · 03/11/2025 12:10

Girls? They are almost 40yo women.

Who had plenty of time to come up, at the very least, with some sort of public statement.

Why should they?

Bigcat25 · 03/11/2025 12:45

Olivebranch123 · 03/11/2025 04:51

I thought everyone knew this. My ex colleague, security guard,told me 20 years ago ( he worked for the royal family) that Andrew had sex workers flown by helicopter to the Royal Yatch nightly, and this was the norm.

Wow. Such wild excess just bc has ancester from 1000 yrs ago fell out the right crotch.

Bigcat25 · 03/11/2025 12:55

CesarSoubreyon · 03/11/2025 11:22

If Andrew was having helicopters delivering girls (and boys?) to yachts then the Royal Family was not just aware but complicit. Security officers would have been aware of everything and reporting it all and the late Queen clearly allowed him just to carry on.

KCIII is hardly free of scandal himself. Friendships/relationships with 3 paedophiles that we are aware of: Saville, Ball and Mountbatten. No doubt there's more. I hope there's a referendum to vote to abolish the monarchy in my lifetime, I suspect it would be far more popular than they think.

Do we know they were underage? Not that it's great fro the RF even if they weren't.

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 12:57

Olivebranch123 · 03/11/2025 12:28

Tony Blaire was convicted of " cottaging " I don't know the legal term. Basically caught having sex with another male in a public lavatory. This is public information, anyone can look this up.

on some obscure YouTube conspiracy theory video no doubt

MaccyDeeeFavs · 03/11/2025 12:59

I wonder if B&E will be invited to Catherine's carol concert this year?
I'm guessing Andrew and Sarah won't.

AnareticDegree · 03/11/2025 13:01

RubySquid · 03/11/2025 12:33

Why should they?

Because they have benefited hugely from trust funds given to the royals, and because any pretence of royal highnessing while having links in some way to one of the world's worst pedos is just farcical.

MO0N · 03/11/2025 13:01

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/11/2025 01:28

i think there’s a great deal more to come out. Wouldn’t be the least surprised to learn that the hideous Epstein catered to various tastes.

The more extreme and perverse the tastes the better the potential to control the client for the personal gain of Epstein and/or whoever else he was working for.

THisbackwithavengeance · 03/11/2025 13:03

This obsession with Andrew going to prison on MN is so bizarre.

What do you think he will go to prison for? Allegedly having sex with a 17 year old girl? Even if INDISPUTABLE evidence came out that they’d had sex, she was over the age of consent and how could anyone prove that he didn’t know she was at that party willingly as a guest or paid sex worker? All those photos of VG show her smiling and posing.

AMW is clearly a man of irregular sexual habits and is a sleazy piece of shit but that’s not a criminal offence in itself.

Some of you really need to get a grip.

MO0N · 03/11/2025 13:07

Lampzade · 03/11/2025 07:04

The late queen obviously knew that her son was a waste of space but continued to protect the vile creature
It’s all coming out now

Might she also have been protecting him because he had dirt on other powerful people, in other words he would have taken other people down with him.

Lilactimes · 03/11/2025 13:07

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 12:57

on some obscure YouTube conspiracy theory video no doubt

I think you will find that may have been George Michael

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 13:09

Lilactimes · 03/11/2025 13:07

I think you will find that may have been George Michael

Easy mistake to make. So similar in looks and artistic output.

Noideawhyitsanissue · 03/11/2025 13:12

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 13:09

Easy mistake to make. So similar in looks and artistic output.

Now I’m imagining Tony’s clipped version of careless whisper complete with hand gestures 😂

Ponderingwindow · 03/11/2025 13:12

How is the sex of the trafficked children relevant?

Dollymylove · 03/11/2025 13:18

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/11/2025 12:30

I looked up Tony Blair and cottaging. Can’t find anything. Not anything from a reputable source anyway.

Try Charles Lynton Blair 😉😉

Middlechild3 · 03/11/2025 13:29

MaccyDeeeFavs · 03/11/2025 10:54

Girls? They’re adult women with families of their own. Calling them girls is dismissive.

Pointing out the moral and broader benefits of them giving up their royal titles is reasonable. Demanding 'leave the girls alone' comes across like an attempt to silence a perfectly valid discussion point.

It feels like someone’s trying to clean up E&B’s image, but they’re missing the point. The best way to do that would be for the York sisters to step back from the sleazy reputation their titles now carry because of their family’s entanglement with JE.

They have had some undeserved horrible press over the years as Fergies daughters. Now this. They both have their own private homes but each have grace and favour royal apartments. They have titles which benefit them hugely in business. I don't think they are working royals though. I don't think anyone in the royal family not working as a full time royal for the firm, should benefit from dwellings, titles etc. Make a choice. We need value for money from our Royal family going forward and we are only getting it from a few members. Strip these two plus Harry, Megan and their kids of all titles and benefits of royal association. You leave a business you lose the perks that go with the job.