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New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

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Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 03/11/2025 01:28

i think there’s a great deal more to come out. Wouldn’t be the least surprised to learn that the hideous Epstein catered to various tastes.

coxesorangepippin · 03/11/2025 01:30

Lord above

Let's hope this is the catalyst that's needed

Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:32

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/11/2025 01:28

i think there’s a great deal more to come out. Wouldn’t be the least surprised to learn that the hideous Epstein catered to various tastes.

My concern is this will be buried just like the firm buried Virginia’s allegations. There was no investigation and Andrew got away with it.

I’m outraged. Particularly given that these latest allegations (if they are true) further substantiate Andrew being a sex offender as it would indicate he didn’t have a preference so long as the person was young.

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DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 03/11/2025 01:45

Beatrice and Eugenie's response and reaction is no indication of how much they care about their children, nor do they owe anyone a front row seat to how they process this.

One thing I'm very grateful for is to not have been in the public eye when similar information came to light about my father. No one who hasn't experienced this before has any right to judge how they respond to it, and they have the right to process it privately.

WhichTeam · 03/11/2025 01:49

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 03/11/2025 01:45

Beatrice and Eugenie's response and reaction is no indication of how much they care about their children, nor do they owe anyone a front row seat to how they process this.

One thing I'm very grateful for is to not have been in the public eye when similar information came to light about my father. No one who hasn't experienced this before has any right to judge how they respond to it, and they have the right to process it privately.

Agreed. What we see of them in public has nothing to do with their private feelings or actions (private being key there). They are in a horrible position. I'd not want to see any child being judged by the actions of one of their parents either.

ByNattyScroller · 03/11/2025 02:13

I don’t honestly understand how Beatrice apparently visited that vile man, along with her mum and dad after his conviction. Who Fergie described as ‘ a Supreme man ‘ who even uses that kind of language to describe anyone! Also the fact the he was a guest at Beatrice’s 18th photographed along with Harvey Weinstein and that disgusting enabler Maxwell ( I’d like to use a more fitting description for her, but I’d probably be banned on here) The factor that Virginia Guiffre met those 2 awful beings at Trumps place a Mar- a- lago unsurprisingly speak volumes about him as well. I hope that karma pays a visit to that despicable excuse for a woman in jail, but I’m just glad that Charles has a backbone and stripped his entitled Narcissist brother of his title and privileges. Those awful beings and Sarah have blood on their hands. I just can’t stop thinking about the torment Virginia Guiffre must have endured. Unfortunately if you have been abused from a very young age you ultimately become a magnet for these monsters. I only hope she is now at peace and her children have a good life 🙏🙏

Sosickofarrogance · 03/11/2025 02:37

I think Beatrice probably did as she was told, or wanted to show loyalty to her parents. We aren't privy to the nature of the relationship with Andrew and Sarah, but I suspect bullying or gaslighting prevented her from either looking more closely or challenging her parents opinions and versions of events.

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mathanxiety · 03/11/2025 02:48

Haven't rtft, but maybe this broadcast was signaled ahead of time to the RF, and was perhaps the motivation behind the action taken this week by KC, and the continuing stripping of military honorifics.

Sosickofarrogance · 03/11/2025 02:58

Math, I think you may well be right. If it's on YouTube then KC probably knew it was coming. His advisers seem very well informed. It's their job after all.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 03/11/2025 03:56

Regarding Beatrice and Eugenie, can we try to remember that the children of a disgusting, gaslighting abuser such as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor are not likely to have the sort of relationship with their father that would allow them to stand up for what they believe is right? Or even know what ‘right’ means?

Their mother was clearly no bloody help either.

They'll have been in survival mode from birth. We’ve seen the respect their father has for girls and women.

Let’s not visit the sins of the father on the (adult) children.

WaryHiker · 03/11/2025 04:17

I was twenty-eight before I had the mental strength to hear a word against my father. I have no judgement for those two young women.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 03/11/2025 04:24

@BlueEyedBogWitch
I completely agree!

I've just watched the Oz documentary. It's no surprise to me that AMW also had a taste for younger men...

He's lived a life of untramelled privelege... Where he's done EXACTLY what he wants with seemingly few consequences....

Until now....

I feel also, he is deeply, deeply, stupid... The Emily Maitlis interview a case in point... Where he believed it had gone very well!

NumbersGuy · 03/11/2025 04:33

Beatrice and Eugenie will be left alone unless William chooses to go after them after Charles has passed and they don't stay out of the spotlight, which he can take away their royal lodging and titles. Andrew, on the other hand, will likely be set up with an iron clad location lease, along with his settlement, with some place such as Wood Farm where Phillip and Elizabeth enjoyed so much but is very much the opposite of the Royal Lodge, so William doesn't try to get him thrown out on his arse completely. Meanwhile Sarah is off in the wind on her own. They both have no one to blame but themselves for their demise after all of their shady dealings to scam so many people over the decades to line their pockets. Justice does take time, but in the end realize for them to be removed from public life and royal heritage is an even greater demise than any court could ever inflict on them.

Olivebranch123 · 03/11/2025 04:51

I thought everyone knew this. My ex colleague, security guard,told me 20 years ago ( he worked for the royal family) that Andrew had sex workers flown by helicopter to the Royal Yatch nightly, and this was the norm.

Daisymay8 · 03/11/2025 04:52

I feel the set up by Epstein and Maxwell probably ran to dozens of privileged men and many more girls. Is the chasing of Andrew by the world press a deliberate way of sidetracking from these men - Trump ? Why aren’t other girls coming forward or have they been paid off and keeping their heads down.

The other girl involved with VG is suing Guiffres as she says that VG told lies about some of the treatment and events.

The GET Andrew plan seems odd as he is the only one and people are determined to get him and only him in prison or dead. Why not others too?

Lampzade · 03/11/2025 05:11

There is definitely more to come out which I suspect is the reason that Andrew has had his title removed .

ginnybag · 03/11/2025 05:17

Is this genuinely a surprise?

It could be me, but the fact that underage boys were involved is the obvious reason Trump still won't allow full release. No-one would be surprised by anything in there to do with him and women and girls, and his supporters certainly wont care, so there had to be something else. Proof he wasn't just there for the girls, though, would be a big problem for the whole current set up.

Too, given Epstein was perfectly happy to play pimp to powerful people, why would he have a line about who he was selling? Its awful, but for a lot of these men, satisfying their 'secret' bisexual or gay urges would have been a much more powerful offering as it wouldn't have been nearly as accessible elsewhere.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 03/11/2025 05:23

Its awful, but for a lot of these men, satisfying their 'secret' bisexual or gay urges peadophilic urges would have been a much more powerful offering as it wouldn't have been nearly as accessible elsewhere.

Fixed that for you

cafenoirbiscuit · 03/11/2025 05:39

Wasn’t there an allegation about a British PM having had sex with VG? That story seems to be being kept pretty quiet.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 03/11/2025 05:56

Daisymay8 · 03/11/2025 04:52

I feel the set up by Epstein and Maxwell probably ran to dozens of privileged men and many more girls. Is the chasing of Andrew by the world press a deliberate way of sidetracking from these men - Trump ? Why aren’t other girls coming forward or have they been paid off and keeping their heads down.

The other girl involved with VG is suing Guiffres as she says that VG told lies about some of the treatment and events.

The GET Andrew plan seems odd as he is the only one and people are determined to get him and only him in prison or dead. Why not others too?

I doubt her suit will get anywhere since VG is dead.

Weirdest · 03/11/2025 05:58

If the police can’t even confirm the crimes committed yet, what makes you think his children were aware/associated with him knowing the extent of what occurred? Do you really think he confessed his possible guilt to them?

billysboy · 03/11/2025 06:01

Seems to be a lot more to come out of this yet

BeeWitchy · 03/11/2025 06:06

BlueEyedBogWitch · 03/11/2025 03:56

Regarding Beatrice and Eugenie, can we try to remember that the children of a disgusting, gaslighting abuser such as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor are not likely to have the sort of relationship with their father that would allow them to stand up for what they believe is right? Or even know what ‘right’ means?

Their mother was clearly no bloody help either.

They'll have been in survival mode from birth. We’ve seen the respect their father has for girls and women.

Let’s not visit the sins of the father on the (adult) children.

I agree with this.

Simonjt · 03/11/2025 06:06

cafenoirbiscuit · 03/11/2025 05:39

Wasn’t there an allegation about a British PM having had sex with VG? That story seems to be being kept pretty quiet.

No, it was an Israeli PM EB.

pestowithwalnuts · 03/11/2025 06:13

Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

I also heard this..I heard another comment from someone who said how perverted AM-B was.