New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

[Muffinmam]

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

I have nothing but sympathy for Beatrice and Eugenie. They’re victims of his too. They’re suffering with the consequences of his predatory behaviour.

She is suing the family for money from the book profits which says has lies in it.
I could be wrong but think I read that VG was sexually abused by her father - this would do much more harm than A and would have lead to her being easily groomed. The family will be doing very nicely from her death if they inherited the pay off by QE. Where were they when VG disappeared into the clutches of GM?

Trump is trying to redirect the public’s attention - constantly.

But this doesn’t change a thing about what we are still learning about Andrew.

And in regards to the Epstein Maxwell sex trafficking ring, many victims are coming forward, just as many came forward for the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. Those testimonies still exist.

Watch the video YouTube that OP linked to in her opening post, as there lot to learn in that 30 minutes in my opinion. And will answer some of your questions.

It’s not simply a case of ‘get Andrew’. No one is picking on Andrew only. There is the current Congressional Committee examining the whole Epstein organisation and what went on. 218 Democrats (amongst them a few republicans) are waiting until the government shutdown ends to force a release of all the Epstein files. News media like the New York Times are running their own investigation - part of which is that they are following the money - Epstein’s money - and banks are being questioned.

Yes Trump is trying to divert attention, repeatedly and in many ways, but I don’t think he’s going to be successful.

Absolutely. It was an open secret.

I’m surprised more hasn’t come out yet, I honestly think all this is the tip of the ice berg. Andrew is vile. But to be honest, I think we should do away with the whole royal family. I don’t think anyone should be above anyone else simply because of their ‘birthright’. The country has been brainwashed for hundreds of years into believing that we need these people and we absolutely don’t

I remember when the picture of VG and AMW first started circulating the internet. It was seen very much as something conspiracy theorists were peddling. The first YouTube channels covering the story weren't always the most reliable but something that was reported, I use the world loosely, was a woman who came forward to discuss her experiences with AMW. During their conversation he was talking about the age of this woman, his victim, trying to guess her age based on how she looked comparatively to his daughters and he guessed 11. This was obviously prior to raping her.
As I say, no idea if that’s true as some of the earlier reports of AMW were of a sensationalist nature, however, I also don’t disbelieve it.

It was a PM, but not a British one. He's named online.

It was a very high profile Israeli leader. He raped and beat her until she was bleeding. It’s in the book but hasn’t been discussed in the British media.

Epstein seems to have been a great manipulator. A con man/fraudster, own island and anything you require/would like can be provided and if you want something special? Well we are all friends here. Hard to resist that if you are used to the best and Andrew probably didn't. Still goes on now in villas, estates and yachts around the world. One only has to read about Berlusconi and his antics having women flown in by the military to his parties and Boris dashing off to see Lebdev at his house (Katie Price was a guest)

This is a weird take. Presumably any inheritance will go to her children, born long after the alleged incidents.

Ok, thanks, I haven't really followed this properly but it's hard to avoid at the moment

The late queen obviously knew that her son was a waste of space but continued to protect the vile creature
It’s all coming out now

She sued, and won, $7.5 million dollars against VG for defamation before VG died. VG claimed she was a girlfriend of Epstein and also procured young girls for Epstein, while she claims she was a victim like VG, who also procured young girls for Epstein. She is now going after VG’s estate for the money she was awarded before VG died.

I have very little sympathy for Beatrice and Eugenie, they took huge amounts of money from Epstein and other shady characters.

The rumours about Andrew being gay have been around for a long time, wouldn’t surprise me at all.

From what I understand, Epstein, apart from being a pervert, was also a 'fixer'. His parties brought people together. At these parties any taste or fantasy could be indulged.

AMW will not have been invited because of his scintillating personality but to add a gloss of respectatability. In 2001 when AMW met VG, he was at the end of his Naval career and was in MOD. Who else went to these parties because AMW made them respectable?

But these parties compromised the guests. Even if they didnt participate in any/all 'activities' there is guilt by association. If you view the parties as a honey trap, who else was being trapped?

Who wanted people honey trapped? China was a growing economy, Putin had just risen to power in Russia.

A while ago I watched an interesting documentary about espionage. One of the things discussed was the use of honey traps. What they create are 'assets', people who can be made to act in particular ways because of fear of exposure.

Yes I predicted that last week's public demolition was the precursor to more revelations

They might have felt that if everything else in the book was true (and I can't even remember half of it, there was so much, I need to reread) then the additional damage done by this new allegation is hardly significant. After all, if AMW came out and said the book was all true but only young girls and women were abused and exploited, never any boys or men, it's hardly going to repair his reputation.

Enough to comment on the failings of her siblings though, right?

If my father was a rapist, abuser and liar I wouldn’t have any of my children anywhere near him. Nor would I go near him myself.

Namechanged because I have said this over the years on here:

I met Mr Andrew at an overseas High Commission function. We were divided into groups of 6 and Mr Andrew spent about 10 minutes with each group. I was 26 and the only female in our group. Mr Andrew came over, perspiring in the 33 degree tropical and humid heat, completely OTT (probably had a sniff of something previously) and spent 8 minutes focussed on the gay helicopter pilot in our group. Mr Andrew behaved oddly and went into physical detail about how helicopter pilots have to use one leg for one gear and the other leg for another gear and kept baring his crotch for the other pilot to see.

I have spent the subsequent years convinced he is gay and the reason he is so loudly proclaiming his innocence is that he didn’t have sex with Virginia but with a boy, which was a question he was never asked publicly.

The Royal family get everything they deserve for covering this up and allowing him to get away with this behaviour for decades while WE paid for him m, and them, and their privilege.

Erm, I would argue a life in prison is absolutely worse than being quietly set up in a house.

Let’s not turn on his daughters like any of this is their fault. Always the women who face the blame in any situation. He tried to gaslight the entire nation in his dodgy interview let’s not forget. He’s refuted the claims throughout and I’m assuming they believe him, or at least want to believe him because he’s their beloved father.

It’s difficult when your parent turns out to be something you just never could have imagined, especially when you grew up idolising them. They have to do it publicly which is even tougher. Their mum was also complicit lets not forget.

BoJo, allegedly, through the parties with Lebedev met Olga D. (apparently also known as Olga K.?). with whom he has a child also! Such a bizarre world to live in with men like BoJo knocking up everyone they can and seemingly getting away with it 😅

I absolutely agree that these parties were about compromising people. And that there were probably two types of guest, the thick window dressing (AMW) and the useful politicians, bureaucrats and captains of finance. (Trump probably a bit of both).
But I don't think China is behind it, back in 2001 they were pretty optomistic about their relationship and place in the international community. It is only in the last ten or so years that they have realised that the West doesn't really want them in the club as a competitor.

Why is it more disgusting and perverted if Andrew was having boys procured for him as well as girls? Why would this be the thing that finishes him off?

Is it worse if rape victims are boys? Or is it worse if someone has sex with their own sex?