New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

[Muffinmam]

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

Of course. They’ve enabled and sheltered and protected him for all these years, from the Queen - the dead one - all the way down through ‘the firm’.
A mix of protecting the family ‘name’ and business and a good old fashioned belief that they are special, above the law, above normal morals, an exception to the rule.
More interested in their own self interest without an ounce of sympathy or empathy for any victims of these paedophiles and abusers.

My opinion is that AMW is being used as an example to any others in Epstein's party circle 'this could happen to you'. Keep quiet or else.

The honey trap has been sprung. Other party goers will see what has happened to AMW and not want the same fate. They will be happy to comply with any suggestions/orders.

AMW has had titles stripped and is essentially being sent into internal exile by the RF. He was already an embarassing irrelevence but his fall from a high position is very public.

Trump is both in awe of Putin (he admires dictators) and frightened of him. Putin has something on him, worse than anything which has come out so far.

Exactly.

On the other hand,how can he remember he was at pizza hut at that date 20 years ago?

I'm pretty sure the reason for the palace's sudden stripping of all titles was because new revelations are about to come out and they have to be seen to be acting.

Agree with this. I also find it suspicious that VG is conveniently dead.

Blimey, it's never ending isn't it?

Yes I think you’re probably right about Fergie. The woman’s an absolute parasite when it comes to anyone who’s wealthy.

? You mean you don't think she is dead? Or someone got to her?

He should be in prison. Not in a big fancy house with all his bills paid for by his brother.
Exile- as if that’s anything.

Listening to this witness is absolute heart breaking. It sounds like VG was also groomed to be taking on more leading roles in the JE's system of abuse and when this was going to go to court she couldn't deal with it. The whole thing is horrible. And there is no excuse for member of the royal family to be taking part in such sleaze and exploitation.

I agree.

The speed it's all happened after years of foot dragging indicates a shockingly cynical attempt to get ahead of the game.

We're at the stage where anything can be claimed and will be believed, 'AMW bit the head off my hamster', the claimants knows they're safe from being sued. Why don't they take a few pot shots at some of the other alleged participants, is it because they know it would be challenged ? Until the files are made public, unredacted, many cowards will be hiding behind their patsy and we all know why the files will not be made public.

Wow.

They took their daughter to visit a child abuser!

I really don't think the RF have done this out of sympathy for Guiffre and other victims, although some may feel genuine sympathy. They've done it because once Lowrie's book is investigated more thoroughly, much much more will come out - money laundering implications, the way charities have been used to "pay" him. The next question will be how do other royals use their connections and charitable work to acquire wealth, and then it's game over. Beatrice and Eugenie are known to have benefitted already, Sarah Ferguson is massively indiscreet so there will be various things coming out about her, and then the question will be who else in the RF has behaved similarly? AMW's undoing was because of Epstein/Guiffre but it's opened a whole other can of worms now bringing other members of the family under scrutiny who may not have behaved the same as him sexually but they could have financially, even if to a far lesser extent. So their only hope is that by stripping him now of everything, the press and the public will stop there and let sleeping dogs lie. He's ruined the gravy train for others now (not all I'm sure) and cutting him off is their last hope.
It's a bloody good thing that we are intolerant of illegal/immoral behaviour by senior figures in society and have the capacity to search for evidence long after the fact, so bring it on really. It may not be possible with regard to Trump in the USA but if we do it in the UK, good for us.

Yes. It’s unbelievable. They don’t seem to have any morals. They are absolutely vile and I think they both deserve each other.

Didn't someone win a multi-million dollar pay out against VG in the New York courts which was never paid? Maybe this is what her estate is being chased for. Interesting that the American authorities don't seem interested about her claims about her father who lives in the US, presumably there are not enough column inches in chasing him, even though his 14 year old daughter was not in bed in her own home and nothing was done about it.

Can we not leave the girls alone please?

Maybe she took B to make Epstein look more trustworthy. After all, could he really be an abuser if Sarah brought her young daughter to see him? The whole York family seems surrounded by sleaze. I think the sisters are both victims of it and also ended up gaining money or benefits from their parents’ ties to Epstein and his empire of abuse and exploitation.

Girls? They’re adult women with families of their own. Calling them girls is dismissive.

Pointing out the moral and broader benefits of them giving up their royal titles is reasonable. Demanding 'leave the girls alone' comes across like an attempt to silence a perfectly valid discussion point.

It feels like someone’s trying to clean up E&B’s image, but they’re missing the point. The best way to do that would be for the York sisters to step back from the sleazy reputation their titles now carry because of their family’s entanglement with JE.

Like father - like son. Philip was widely known in Fleet St to be involved with the Christine Keeler/Mandy Rice Davies scandal but F St was warned off reporting it.
One wonders how much QE knew both of P's and A's antics and if she did, how A could reputedly been 'her favourite child.' Maybe just a Press cover story for him.
I imagine QE was a stoic and had a lot to put up with in the family from P (walzing off for months while she was pregnant with Charles etc etc.) Reputedly they hadn't lived together for years. The fact that his will is to remain hidden from public view for 100 years says a lot. ( Presumably to prevent us knowing about his other 'beneficiaries'.

They've done it because once Lowrie's book is investigated more thoroughly, much much more will come out - money laundering implications, the way charities have been used to "pay" him. The next question will be how do other royals use their connections and charitable work to acquire wealth, and then it's game over.
That is the crux of it. And what Andrew Lownie has said since Entitled was published.

lets not forget that Charles was great friends with the Bishop of Gloucester who took advantage of young men at every opportunity and was defended by Runcie. then we had the Archbishop of Canterbury, the man who puts the crown on the Monarchs head who was 'overwhelmed' by the cases and so did nothing. the senior cleric in the C of E failed to manage his staff and duty of care. No wonder these people are worried.

Pedallleur

Let's also not forget the Dickens dossier, mysteriously "lost" (what a surprise), which if found could potentially rule out any hereditary element to Andrew's problems.

William just get a job, love. You can keep the nice house and car.

Yes, and Robert Maxwell before him that's where his connection with Ghislane comes in, that basically JE took over what RM built.