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New allegations against Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor

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Muffinmam · 03/11/2025 01:18

Last night an episode of 60 Minutes (Australia) aired and an allegation was
made that it wasn’t just girls who were trafficked to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor by Ghislane and Epstein - there were also young boys.

I’ve included the link below:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hk-9SfptZlU&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

This allegation never made it into the book because the writer never had a second witness to concur. However, he revealed it in the 60 Minutes interview last night and 60 Minutes aired what is a defamatory allegation - which makes me think that 60 Minutes felt confident it was true (otherwise their lawyers would have killed the story). It was a very short reference but British Police need to interview Ghislane as to Andrew’s other victims.

Further, AIBU to think that the Royal Protection officers should be made to answer questions as to criminality involving Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor?

Also, how can Beatrice & Eugenie still support their disgusting father after everything we know? Do they not care about their own children? Particularly Beatrice’s young step son. Hopefully Andrew is not allowed anywhere near this boy.

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MyLittleCatMan · 03/11/2025 22:00

TheLocust · 03/11/2025 21:57

If she had any sense at all she'll have an insurance policy. All the receipts lined up in a safe somewhere with instructions for the whole shooting match to be released if she dies.

Hopefully. Although she’s a shit as well. I don’t think she was bright enough to do that. But that would be good. Get trump, Elon, Clinton lots of shits.

LizzieW1969 · 03/11/2025 22:00

MyLittleCatMan · 03/11/2025 21:43

I will be honest i have thought the same re Andrew. He knows too much. There are so many very powerful forces around. His and ghislaine days are numbered.

That has also occurred to me. It might be why he’s proved so reluctant to reveal all he knows about Epstein and all the powerful men who were involved with him, despite all the public pressure to do so.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 22:05

I just hope that Beatrice’s step son was never alone with this evil and hideous man.

I can't keep up with everything that's coming out...is there a suggestion that he's dangerous around 8-year-olds/young children?

LamourdesTrois · 03/11/2025 22:15

Horsie · 03/11/2025 22:05

I just hope that Beatrice’s step son was never alone with this evil and hideous man.

I can't keep up with everything that's coming out...is there a suggestion that he's dangerous around 8-year-olds/young children?

The original OP insinuates this, but no one has offered any evidence, no witnesses have come forward and there is no proof as far as I can make out.

Dollymylove · 03/11/2025 22:17

Horsie · 03/11/2025 22:05

I just hope that Beatrice’s step son was never alone with this evil and hideous man.

I can't keep up with everything that's coming out...is there a suggestion that he's dangerous around 8-year-olds/young children?

Agreed. Its all getting a bit silly now

Horsie · 03/11/2025 22:19

CathyorClaire · 03/11/2025 21:37

The difficulty is that nothing was ever investigated when it should have been

Componded by the further difficulty of records being sealed until Mr MW and the rest of us interested are conveniently dead.

We're now supposed to be distracted by the prospect of Mr MW losing his unearned birthday gongs while the real dirt goes undug 😡

What records are sealed? As far as I know, the Epstein files are being looked at in the US. What else is there?

ShenandoahRiver · 03/11/2025 22:24

The records of his years as Uk Trade Envoy.

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 22:36

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 21:43

They are a louche lot generally so anything is possible inside & out of official relationships. It’s just us plebs with our provincial notions of respectability & respect for marriage vows.

some of then still seem to operate on the old aristocratic principle of marriage is for breeding a couple of heirs to keep the lineage going and once that is out of the way, both partners can shop around for a bit of fun on the side.

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 22:45

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 22:36

some of then still seem to operate on the old aristocratic principle of marriage is for breeding a couple of heirs to keep the lineage going and once that is out of the way, both partners can shop around for a bit of fun on the side.

Yep, I suppose that works as long as pesky love doesn’t get in way & both have memo.

Marcipix · 03/11/2025 22:52

Sosickofarrogance · 03/11/2025 02:37

I think Beatrice probably did as she was told, or wanted to show loyalty to her parents. We aren't privy to the nature of the relationship with Andrew and Sarah, but I suspect bullying or gaslighting prevented her from either looking more closely or challenging her parents opinions and versions of events.

Edited as pressed send to soon

Edited

The general opinion seems to be that Beatrice is far from bright. Perhaps she didn’t question her parent’s friendships.

Marcipix · 03/11/2025 22:57

JustSawJohnny · 03/11/2025 21:36

She knows too much.

Agree.
We didn’t believe for one moment that Epstein committed suicide.

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 22:59

Marcipix · 03/11/2025 22:52

The general opinion seems to be that Beatrice is far from bright. Perhaps she didn’t question her parent’s friendships.

Am not sure that’s fair, sheltered, insular & not seemingly raised much by them so she believed their hype. SF is by all accounts very charming, likeable & charismatic & has done good charitable work. PA maybe Disney Dad meets Father Christmas where randoms gift you priceless trinkets cos he’s honourable.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:00

lifeonmars100 · 03/11/2025 22:36

some of then still seem to operate on the old aristocratic principle of marriage is for breeding a couple of heirs to keep the lineage going and once that is out of the way, both partners can shop around for a bit of fun on the side.

Who in the RF today has done this? Only Charles had an affair, and that was with the one woman he's loved his whole life and is now married to. All the other royal marriages seem like love matches - even Andrew and Fergie, back in the day.

WagnersFourthSymphony · 03/11/2025 23:00

Marcipix · 03/11/2025 22:57

Agree.
We didn’t believe for one moment that Epstein committed suicide.

Well, he might have. In that coincidentally albeit brief time when the CCTV wasn't working.

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 23:01

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:00

Who in the RF today has done this? Only Charles had an affair, and that was with the one woman he's loved his whole life and is now married to. All the other royal marriages seem like love matches - even Andrew and Fergie, back in the day.

I think PA had some parallel affairs in day but yes Camilla trumped all.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:02

Marcipix · 03/11/2025 22:52

The general opinion seems to be that Beatrice is far from bright. Perhaps she didn’t question her parent’s friendships.

She got ABB in her A-levels and a 2:1 in her degree, so she's brighter than many.

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:03

WagnersFourthSymphony · 03/11/2025 23:00

Well, he might have. In that coincidentally albeit brief time when the CCTV wasn't working.

I don't know, people who have committed very serious crimes are known for killing themselves after. It is odd about the CCTV though, if that's true and not another unsubstantiated rumour.

WagnersFourthSymphony · 03/11/2025 23:05

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:03

I don't know, people who have committed very serious crimes are known for killing themselves after. It is odd about the CCTV though, if that's true and not another unsubstantiated rumour.

Edited

Indeed.

Plenty of motive.

Maybe he'd heard that all the videotapes had been accidentally destroyed.

LiteralNightmare · 03/11/2025 23:08

Has there ever been questions about Lord Mountbatten abusing him?

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 23:12

Horsie · 03/11/2025 23:02

She got ABB in her A-levels and a 2:1 in her degree, so she's brighter than many.

Yes, it’s more a sign she’s been in a sheltered, insulated bubble most of her life. IME & IMO.

ImaybeaMrbutiamstillaprinceborn · 03/11/2025 23:12

LiteralNightmare · 03/11/2025 23:08

Has there ever been questions about Lord Mountbatten abusing him?

Wrf? Quote your source.

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 23:15

ImaybeaMrbutiamstillaprinceborn · 03/11/2025 23:12

Wrf? Quote your source.

Lownie spoke of PA off to a prostitute at 11 which some think sparked sex addiction. Also he mentioned, I think generic sexual abuse, not cert not Mountbatten as perp.

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 23:15

PinkPanther57 · 03/11/2025 23:15

Lownie spoke of PA off to a prostitute at 11 which some think sparked sex addiction. Also he mentioned, I think generic sexual abuse, not cert not Mountbatten as perp.

I mean certainly NOT Mountbatten as perp.

Catullus5 · 03/11/2025 23:16

TeenLifeMum · 03/11/2025 21:03

Back in 2001 the news of the world had pages on Andrew being gay and in a relationship with Tony Slattery but you couldn’t out a gay person so they couldn’t run it. It was part of my media law training. Also included jimmy Saville sleeping with dead bodies but media couldn’t print as not enough evidence at the time.

Off-topic, but I remember reading how Savile engaged George Carmen QC regarding some libel claim against a newspaper who buried the story. The reporter says that Carmen later phoned him and dropped a heavy hint that Savile was a paedophile. Carmen wasn't a very pleasant man but it occurs to me that if you were a barrister who wanted to put the word about without flagrantly breaching your professional duties, this is just how you'd do it.

Renamedyetagain · 03/11/2025 23:18

He's such a piece of shit