To be sick of people moaning about their pets and fireworks?

[Sophiehoney]

There's currently a debate on my local Facebook page as the people in the street behind me let off a long, spectacular firework display in their back garden which was very loud.
It was absolutely brilliant and my kids loved it.

Someone has moaned that her four cats are terrified and others are joining in and saying their cats/dogs are also distressed.

They are all saying they should have had a warning?? Even though it's the weekend before bonfire night??

But what really annoys me is that if you click on this woman's name and see all her past posts, she's moaned about the same bloody thing at the same time of year for the past SIX years!!!

Why has she done nothing to prepare for this even though she knows full well it happens around the same time??!!!

I completely agree - if you’ve got a 4 bed detached house with a decent garden, by all means get yourself a golden retriever. Said golden retriever does not belong in a 60sqm 2 bed terrace with about 10 foot of garden (I’m looking at you number 37!)

There aren't enough dogs around if you ask me! The more the merrier.

If you give a dog enough exercise it doesn't need to live in a massive house. And sufficient mental stimulation will reduce barking and behavioural problems.

Plus it's not unreasonable for dogs to bark occasionally; they are living beings with emotions after all. People are exposed to all sorts of daily noises - traffic, diy, tvs and music. Plus children live in neighbouring houses which can be much noisier than any dog.

Maybe you or your family make noises your neighbours find tiresome. Loud phone conversations outside or a trampoline or a motorbike for examples?

I much prefer our neighbours rooster over a yappy dog not going to lie.

At least when terrance wakes me up it’s because his a rooster not because his owner decided the street would be awake because poppy needs a yappy pee at 4am. Terrance also doesn’t shit on the path so I forgive his noise.

Yes his name actually is terrance 😅

You can have a 4 bed detached house with a massive garden and the golden retriever will still need to be taken out for exercise. They won't just run around the garden, and will most likely be wherever you are in the house.

Dogs don't need masses of space. They need mental and physical exercise, food, healthcare, your time and attention.

A golden retriever in a 2 bed flat that gets all of those things will be happier than a dog left alone in a 4 bed detached house all alone all day.

And as you're not advocating for firework bans whilst ignoring dogs cause the same harms being complained about, fair enough! Nothing wrong in having a preference and just being honest about it.

Where are you exercising it though if you dont have space?
You taking it to the local park? Inflicting your decision to have a dog on others? Letting it of lead to run around and shit all over the place?

That is like me saying I have sufficient space for a caravan then parking it in front of your window (not illegal but inconsiderate)

Yes but the point in the context of this argument has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the dog and everything to do with the impact that it has on your neighbours. It is extremely antisocial to keep dogs in small houses that are close to others.

It’s so annoying to be hoenst every single year

I take mine to woodland and to the beach, and yes I do let them run around off lead but I do pick their poo up.

People shouldn't get dogs and expect their own back garden to be sufficient regardless of how big it is.

Only a very short part of that second paragraph was correct

People like you have really riled up so many others. How selfish can you be?

houses now are far too close together. When people are doing these fire with displays, it is front and centre in people’s homes both for noise and the dishes of light.

pets, and animals in nature, have much better hearing than us. It is terrifying for them.

you’re perfectly happy to have terrified animals for a few moments of fireworks?

it isn’t just one night either. It now starts much earlier with Diwali plus people are doing fireworks not only on 5 November but the week before and after

there is no warning really. Because it is days in end. We can’t go out. We have to come home early from work because the fireworks are starting as soon as it is dark.

multiple people are doing them too.

we have tried extra long walks in the day we THINK fireworks will happen (try that with pouring rain) so our dog is tired and hopefully may possibly sleep through much of it. We’ve bought black blinds to cover all of our bifolds doors. We have a white noise machine we started using playing rain/thunder in attempt to help get them used to this sound (although real thunder doesn’t bother them), getting vibes from butcher in hopes they’ll be so engrossed in chewing they’ll ignore the fireworks

tv on louder

none of this works.

our dog does not usually bark, not even for doorbell. But he’s so frightened he is barking, howling and sometimes shit himself (who never has accidents in house, car or out anywhere we go for dinner or shopping).

this is his terrified pets can be.

because it is dark, we don’t even see what is happening to most of the animals in nature. Do you really think they’re not being impacted?

and you think this is ok?

really?

I think we should do a poll about how unreasonable selfish people are who have no compassion for the poor animals terrified by repeatedly and prolonged night after night torture by fire works.

Go for it, but don't then have the temerity to whine when people point out what a raving hypocrite you are. Or that many of the arguments for limiting fireworks apply just as much to pet ownership.

Quite a few pet owners have tried that this thread, and some of them have become very emotional at the responses.

Yes houses are far too close together. We all need to be considerate to each other
and that goes both ways.
No fireworks, no parties, no noisy children, no pets

People all too happy to say x should be banned but not y (cause they like y)

You need to get a grip, you don't own the local parks...

We have a large garden, but walk the dogs for 3 hours a day on health, woods, parks and pick up the poo so not impacting anyone.

So you're saying basically that only the more affluent families should have dogs?

and pet owners don't own the local area so can't demand that something be banned just because it scares their dogs, especially as dogs scares some people and they are year round.

You might not impact on anyone with your dog but plenty of dog owners do. Dog poo, uncontrolled dogs off leads, dogs disturbing your picnic, dogs jumping up on you, dogs scaring children, dogs chasing wildlife, dog attacks etc.

Also they’re not just outside. I have to take public transport sometimes, most of the time actually and they’re often on trains /buses so you’re trapped in with them. If a train is quiet you can move carriages but sometimes there’s not the possibility of moving.

Try living in a one or two bed flat with no garden and owning a dog like many of my neighbours do! And their dogs get all territorial about communal areas and bark and lunge when you walk past on the hallways and stairs. Absolutely ridiculous.

I live in between two dog owners but thankfully I can’t hear them bark unless I’m in the hallways, grateful for good sound insulation but they are still a PITA and sometimes the hallway stinks of dog and on occasions there’s been dog pee in the lifts.

Oh god that sounds awful and perfect example of how dog ownership is inherently anti social and not appropriate for many many living situations. I’m sure it sucks if you love dogs and you can’t afford an appropriate dwelling but that doesn’t mean you get to go ahead and get one anyway and fuck your neighbours

Exactly.

They are bloody everywhere.

Yesterday evening was the TENTH evening in a row that there were fireworks where I live. I live fairly rural so amazed there are so many morons that can't or won't have fireworks on the CORRECT day. Even if, for some reason, they could not have them on the 5th why not on the Saturday before (the 1st) or the Sunday before? No just have them random evenings and some of the pathetic morons even let them off in the afternoons when it was not even dark. That really is the height of stupidity.

I am assuming and hoping that yesterday was the last of them but who knows.

We had several local firework displays at the weekend though the majority were last weekend with some also on the 5th itself.

Are you aware that fireworks aren't illegal on any day? People have them for weddings, birthdays, anniversaries, not just religious occasions, Bonfire night and New Year? So although you may disapprove its not actually illegal if before I believe 11 pm

Practically speaking, it should be obvious even to the more intellectually challenged that when Halloween falls on a Friday, a lot of the celebrations for Bonfire Night for people who prefer/need to celebrate at weekend are going to happen on the one after rather than the one before. This would likely become more of a thing, not less, if we moved towards organised displays over private usage.