To be sick of people moaning about their pets and fireworks?

[Sophiehoney]

There's currently a debate on my local Facebook page as the people in the street behind me let off a long, spectacular firework display in their back garden which was very loud.
It was absolutely brilliant and my kids loved it.

Someone has moaned that her four cats are terrified and others are joining in and saying their cats/dogs are also distressed.

They are all saying they should have had a warning?? Even though it's the weekend before bonfire night??

But what really annoys me is that if you click on this woman's name and see all her past posts, she's moaned about the same bloody thing at the same time of year for the past SIX years!!!

Why has she done nothing to prepare for this even though she knows full well it happens around the same time??!!!

We’re not entitled to not be impacted by things that are within the law.

Someone being bothered by something isn’t a good enough reason for it to not happen, it’s the problem of them and their caregivers/families etc, not the problem of everyone.

Ah right. I'll let off the cunts letting display fireworks off on the playing fields at half 12 at night last week then. Because I had a dog once....

See the videos last night in Manchester of people firing them at each other next to a main road? Within the law?

Well no, because that’s illegal.

Were you there? I’d ring the police if so.

Well you don't appear to have a problem letting off all the people whose pets attack humans, eat millions of wild animals a year, cause PTSD and negatively impact on the environment, so what's different here?

I feel sorry for the majority that have nothing special any more. If you have stuff that goes on too long, then where is the special? Glad I was a 70's child.

Why do,people have pets. Because they want to
Why do people have fireworks. Because they want to
Maybe both should be banned from residential areas.

Firework knuckle-dragger over the back wall for me. KAPOW! WHAM! BANG! BANG! BANG! all (deleted) evening. Tell him that it terrifies the younger children, the wildlife and most of the domestic animals and he basically scratches his arse and says, 'Worr, stop moaning, for the kiddies innit.' Yeah, right. It's the moron mindset. You can't change it. Doesn't mean you have to like it, though.

The point is that both are selfish and can be anti social and inconvenient to others, not to mention often other wildlife and the environment.

If it's a reason to ban fireworks in residential areas, it's reason enough to ban cats and dogs too.

One of my dogs isn't keen and I've improved things by rewarding her every time there's a bang. So when the firework goes bang a treat lands at her feet. I did this a few times and she now actively looks for treats when there are fireworks and isn't as scared.

I actually think it is hilarious that you class having a pet and fireworks as causing equal harm and upset.

I am not denying cats kill birds but I don't have a cat and when I did they were indoor cats so didn't kill any living creature.

I would ask what harm my dog is doing to wildlife, children, horses, elderly people etc etc but really can't be bothered to read your pathetic response.

If someone is scared of dogs they are perfectly free to cross the road if they see me with my dog although I almost always walk him in woods or fields where we don't usually see anyone and, if we do, they also have a dog. If someone is scared of fireworks where should they go? Please do enlighten us. If someone has a dog that is terrified of fireworks and it shakes and cries what should they do? A friend has to tranquillise her dog it is so terrified. If it were 1 or 2 nights a year it would not be so bad but it is far far far more nights a year than that. Plus the morons that suddenly let them off in daylight so she is not prepared and has not given her dog a tablet,

But of course we must let the public be able to get hold of dangerous fireworks mustn't we

You can get cds of firework sounds, or on YouTube that you start off on a low volume and then increase to help dogs get used to the noise.

If only just crossing the road magically made the fear of dogs go away or makes a dog any less frightening to those who are terrified of them.

A dog barking for a couple of seconds as it walks past is no more disruptive than the bin collections, people walking past talking on their phones or children shouting/screaming/crying.

Crossing the road isn’t enough for some people. Last time our son tried to avoid a dog, he ran directly into a road. That’s not your fault, or the dog owners - it’s his fear for him and us to manage.

I could extend to same to any other fear. He’s frightened of motorbikes, that doesn’t mean nobody should be allowed to drive them past our house. He’s scared of cars, roads will continue to exist. He’s scared of blood, if he ever gets a cut, can’t get rid of that.

It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to manage or cater for the fear of anyone else; dogs included, if it’s going to limit what they can do in their own space and time.

But it's not just one dog is it? There are more dogs around than there ever used to be, and the proportion of irresponsible dog owners who don't bother to train their pets continues to rise.

Did you or your vet even try some behaviour training and desensitisation techniques? For over 11 months of the year there are no fireworks, so it seems very harsh to have euthanised your dog over fireworks.

Medication doesn't solve the issue, it doesnt stop them being scared; a lot of the time the animal can still hear fireworks - they just can't react properly because they're drugged.

Not all dogs just bark for a couple of seconds or just walk past. As pp said, it's also rarely just one dog.

It's also absolutely more disruptive if you are terrified of dogs.

Could you lure/reward him with treats into the house if this happens again?

We had a dog over the back that barked at 1am and 6am continuously for 20min.
Not just a few seconds, not when I was already awake. Went on for about 8 months and was causing real issues at work.

Believe me I’ve tried. He just shuts down. And zones out. I would happily hand feed him chicken to bring him in but he doesn’t care for food when stressed

What's wrong with having dogs in a 3 bed semi?

Dogs only want to be where their owners are, be that a tent or a mansion. House size really doesn't make a difference as long as the dogs' needs are met.

And I, in turn, find your fumbled attempts to flesh out a moral difference even more amusing.

We live in a society where dogs are much, much, much more of a constant than fireworks. This is a fact. They are in public spaces all the time. Your description of how easy it would be for someone to cross a road in order to avoid the issue is laughable- it simply isn't possible to live a normal life and access public spaces if dogs trigger your PTSD, and your dog could do that to anyone who happens to see it. A person whose fear is triggered by being around dogs has less of a chance than your dog does to escape it, not more. You show no understanding of this at all, nor of the impact your actions have.

On cats specifically, it's good that yours were indoors. This means as long as you recognise that the millions of pet outdoor cats in the UK are a threat to wildlife in just the same way as fireworks, and for more of the year, you're in the clear. If you can't, you won't be beating the double standard accusations.

You sound more like you're talking about today's parents!

A 3 bed semi does not meet a dogs needs. Most dogs need room to run around. Also every time your dog barks it will be heard by neighbours. The noise of a dog bark isn't really any different to a bang from a firework to me. (Only with dogs it's EVERY day)