To be sick of people moaning about their pets and fireworks?

[Sophiehoney]

There's currently a debate on my local Facebook page as the people in the street behind me let off a long, spectacular firework display in their back garden which was very loud.
It was absolutely brilliant and my kids loved it.

Someone has moaned that her four cats are terrified and others are joining in and saying their cats/dogs are also distressed.

They are all saying they should have had a warning?? Even though it's the weekend before bonfire night??

But what really annoys me is that if you click on this woman's name and see all her past posts, she's moaned about the same bloody thing at the same time of year for the past SIX years!!!

Why has she done nothing to prepare for this even though she knows full well it happens around the same time??!!!

I literally live for it!!!

To be fair, I don’t agree with her statement. I’m allowed to disagree with that.

She can love all animals and want to protect them. She can also have double standards and I can call it out. That ok with you?

Oh how strange! In what way did I sound angry and need to chill? Bro? Hmm I am not familiar with that particular vernacular. It is more than possible we do not hail from the same area!

I don’t think you know what altruistic means- it is something with no benefit for one’s self but of benefit to others. When any cursory research will show you that fireworks are damaging to people with ptsd and trauma, can be deadly to wildlife and upsetting to pets, so how exactly does that fit?

You’re right, it would be really quite daft of you to ask people to refrain from spider decorations as you don’t like them.
Thats not quite the same as literally millions of animals being terrified for days on end.

Heard a vet on the radio a few years ago saying exactly this! Pet owners think they’re being kind by making a fuss over loud noises when they should really be randomly banging saucepan lids together throughout the year

Part of the problem is moronic people setting off fireworks at 2am. Firing them at buses, people and pets. Houses catching fire because people are setting them off in gardens where bins or garden furniture catch alight and it spreads.
If they were only set off on certain set days and between certain times, people could be prepared and keep their aninmal indoor. They have been set off here for the last 2 weeks and it’s not the 5th of November yet.
I don’t think the public should be able to buy fireworks. I love watching them but they should be restricted to organised displays.

That’s right, they’re both just kind of “tough tits, get over it” situations aren’t they?

I feel sorry for the pets and I remember their fear but it doesn’t matter. It’s never going to stop.

No. They’re not.

We've had several house rabbits over the years - some of nature's twitchiest prey animals. Not one of them was in any way arsed about fireworks.

In our area it’s every night and always after 11pm and not only pet owners that moan, it just ridiculous, deals also use them to let people know where to collect from.

My rabbits are house rabbits and they aren’t bothered. Neither are my cats. They don’t even seem to notice.
My dogs are petrified though.

Well they are aren’t they, because neither are going to stop. Just have to learn to live with it.

Where do you all live with these dogs barking 24/7, attacking every child in sight and making life so miserable you want them dead?!

there is at least 1 dog in most houses in my immediate vicinity and I’ve heard next doors bark twice in 6 months (this week actually, at fireworks) and that’s it. My own has barked literally 4 times in her 18 months of life. Clearly some piss poor owners around if you are all living in such fear… or maybe some dramatic attention seekers.

or, and hear me out, possibly we can all have differing opinions without needing all or nothing? Animals have their place on this planet, livestock, working or pets they’ve all got a purpose and as much as right as you to exist. Equally, fireworks and any other bullshit human invention are enjoyed by some and could easily be controlled to do as little damage as possible.

There were TV ads about keeping pets indoors on bonfire night, and plenty of public information films about the dangers of fireworks, all through the 70s, 80s and 90s. I can tell you weren’t traumatised by the “if it doesn’t go off….don’t go back” films about people losing an eye!

Interestingly several types of fireworks were banned for sale for personal use in the late 90s, after several deaths related to fireworks. So I guess people were bothered enough.

It's more than possible that you're acting like a tw@t. And what a mean person you sound calling children pathetic for being scared of dogs, it has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

So it’s reasonable to terrorise an animal that doesn’t understand because you don’t like that it exists, how empathetic.

My dog trainer suggested playing fireworks noises in the run up while doing fun activities like playing. The vets suggest everything from having tv/music on to calming medication if required for these few nights a year. Fortunately we haven’t ever needed medication with our cats dogs rabbits or chickens, and a bit of tv and training does the trick.
I had horses for years kept on a variety of riding schools, livery yards, farms (so with cows) and it always went off calmly enough with leaving the radio on and plenty of hay. The odd person (very few) needed to give something from
the vet and I would have been very upset if I was them and hadn’t been able to plan for it - sure, fireworks night, weekend next to it, nye and Diwali, but random birthdays would be very stressful. Also if there was something going on close by and I was one of those people I would probably want to stay until the display was over.

Similar here.

We had some going off nearby on Diwali, a few on Halloween and I'm sure there will be some on 5th Novemver, the Friday and Saturday following and on NYE. All those are pretty much to be expected. They didn't go on for hours or very late and there aren't any in between events either.

I'm not saying this doesnt happen or cause distress, but it certainly doesn't happen everywhere and if they're only happening at times when it's to be expected, its easier to help pets settle in.

Same for our guinea pigs! And from a wild rabbit or fox’s perspective, is a firework display really that different to a thunderstorm?

I'd hazard a guess you aren't. If you can't see the point she was making, I'd be surprised if you could see a firework if it hit you on your face!

I just try and ensure I keep my ear plugs in as I usually have them in most of the time anyway

Dogs used to be dogs. Now they are treated like children.
People talking about anxiety in dogs is ridiculous (separation / fireworks)
Is it lack of training? Buy a puppy, coochy coo over it, react to everything it demands, the complain went others aren't doing everything in their power to make your mutt happy.

Dogs don't affect your son within your own home. Fireworks Do affect people & pets within their own homes.
That's the difference