Not an ordinary working person if you earn over 45k

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Disincentivising anyone to strive to earn over 45k a year is a bizarre strategy for growth i feel

Aibu?

No, by definition of "median" 50% will be above and 50% will be below. Median is exactly the middle number as it separates the lower half from the upper half.

You only need to be teaching for 3 years in Scotland to earn this! Whilst it’s above average I’d agree it’s definitely not a high salary.

I was always a Labour supporter. This government is awful for ordinary people - high taxes for all of us 'working' (£45 k over or above ).Still FA done to tackle huge corporations who take the absolute p* and avoid billions in tax.
Apparently no money to support young people with free bus passes.
No money for decent wage rises for public service.
Etc, etc
Absolute shit show. Personally I wouldn't vote for labour again under Starmer. I wouldn't vote Tory either and Reform are a joke ( very bad distasteful racist misogynistic joke).
Like alot of people i expect i am politically homeless and wish I wasn't stuck in the UK.

top end of Band 6 basic is £46,580 and you will have to be in band 6 for 5 years to get it. Newly qualified Nurse or HCP goes in at band 4 and they will be about 21 at qualification assuming they train straight from school. Staff who work overtime or unsocial hours will get additional payments. Thise figures are before tax. https://www.nhsemployers.org/articles/pay-scales-202526

Yes. So half of full-timers earn less than £39k. Some more will earn between £39k and £45k. So the majority earn less than £45k.

I hate this government.

I find this so interesting, I never realised there was a discrepancy in teacher pay between England and Scotland.

Same here. My DH earns around £130k. He the epitome of hard work. Came from nothing in India. Studied hard. Taught himself how to code. Came to the UK. Worked his socks off and now works tirelessly and works weekends now as well because he's the one people call for advice on how to do things.

We work hard for our money, don't take benefits and see no return. I'm happy to support those who are physically incapacitated,disabled or need to care for disabled family. But not to support those who are lazy and should work harder.

It’s like they don’t like being in power now they’ve got there, so are doing all they can to make sure they’re never elected again😂

Theyll double top two bands of Council Tax too (logistically possible vs Revaluation). They really are a disaster.

At this point I think they know they won't get a 2nd term so are moving into slash and burn territory.

Maybe don't have multiple children if you can't afford them? You can't seriously expect sympathy for your situation?

Also interesting that in lots of businesses, schools and other organisations etc there will be two groups of people who may do similar jobs, but are considered worker or other depending on whether they earn over or under £45k. What will the over group be known as I wonder. Non workers? Unordinary workers? Extraordinary workers?! It's so awful a notion that it's really quite laughable.

I've been on just over £70k for most of the last 5 years. If you had been on £70k during that time, your actual tax / NI paid has gone down, and bands have slowly lifted and NI contributions have changed. Yes, inflation means that for most this isn't a huge help, but tax on £70k has dropped by just under 2k during that time.

Its also worth reminding yourself where £45k puts you. The 'median disposable household income', which means the amount of money a household has after tax, including benefits, is £41k. That's about £52k for a single person. Student loans don't count.

So they're flying a flag about something which will affect the higher-earning half of the country. Undoing the rather cynical drop in employee NICs introduced in 2024, for higher rate tax payers only or adding 1% point to the higher rate tax would affect less than half the country by not very much. On £70k, well above the median, that last would be an extra £200 a year.

I don't know, but an extra £200 a year won't make me stop working any time soon any more than the £300 or so I got extra out of the NIC reductions in 2024 encouraged me to vote tory.

I’m 65, worked all my life, 20 years in current role, earn …. £25k

guess what ?

im a civil servant.

@ColourThief You have my sympathy. Someone on about the median income ought to be able to raise a family.

I assume you used to earn a lot more but now as you're approaching retirement you've take a less strenuous job and are just happy with the income you have as you've paid off your mortgage?

My full-time wage is over 45k; it certainly is not a high salary, and I am in an extremely stressful, public service job to earn it. To be taxed more, when frankly, they are already underpaying me, feels like a kick in the face.

I honestly don’t think they’re even thinking that. I believe they just don’t have a clue, and are just running around blindfolded sticking their fingers in their ears hoping that when they eventually take the blindfold off, everything will be fine. They’re scarily incompetent….

Absolutely, but you can't complain and expect sympathy about not ever being able to afford a mortgage after you've had multiple kids!

Maybe the execrable term 'unearned income' will be trotted out. You know, like the income on investments that people have usually worked and sacrificed to afford.

Those who voted Labour and who have smugly opined about the 'broadest shoulders' didn't realise the Government would be coming for them.

But they are meant to be intelligent, Oxford educated etc. So how can they be THIS incompetent? They are meant to represent the best of state + Oxford education. So I put it to you that this is intentional because to be this incompetent with the supposed quality of education they've had is mind-blowing.

Why would anyone strive to be ordinary?

🎯 No. They assumed Labour would go after "rich" people, not thinking that Labour would ever categorise them as such.

I wonder whether they will be removing the subsidy for food in the Lords or the Commons ... Or taking a closer look at taxing second jobs / modifying expenses for MPs. Looking a bit more at the finances of the Royal family. Mmm, no thought not. Best tax teachers, nurses and firefighters more 🙄