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Fear of safety for my mixed race family

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Kayakinggg · 01/11/2025 20:22

I feel a lot of worry about the safety of the country for mixed race people. They are the most precious people in my life. They are my family. My son, my daughter and my husband are all mixed race. I don’t have a close relationship with any other family members and I have a few other friends but they are white so don’t really
Get it.

I know I am not overreacting as racism is clearly on the rise and rampant and the politicians are deeply corrupt in their tactics to turn us all against each other.

I feel guilty to be the only white one in the family. I feel so angry that when I choose to have children, race was not an issue in the UK 🇬🇧 I hate to see it but I feel like I’ve failed them to raise them here even though I didn’t know what the future held. I have this desire to make a plan to move abroad but logistically and financially o don’t think that will be possible.

I feel like everyone else (that I know) is safe and protected but my little precious family is at threat. I can’t even speak to my own parents about it as they don’t believe reform are racist.

I feel like I’m stuck in a nightmare and it’s only going to get worse.

In my deepest darkest moments I fear my family being taken from me as there is a hate group towards mixed race people that is only growing. I’m scared of history repeating itself.

My feelings are worry, fear, anger, loneliness.

AIBU?!

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Ablondiebutagoody · 02/11/2025 08:53

DS is mixed race and our family feel fine. People everywhere have always been fine towards us, even flag waver types. We haven't noticed any change.

Tauranga · 02/11/2025 08:58

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Why would THIS be your response to someone expressing fear about the safety of their family?

Andregroup · 02/11/2025 09:07

I get it OP. DH is of Arab descent, so our kids are mixed. I live near a town which has a hotel where migrants (and their children) are housed and there have been protests. I hear all the misinformation that is spread and see the flags being displayed with aggression. Ever since Brexit, the mood has got nasty.

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Either share your evidence or stop making unfounded claims

Baital · 02/11/2025 09:28

MNLurker1345 · 02/11/2025 08:31

I will wait in line for my racist incident! I am UK born. Originally from SE London. Near to Bermondsey, NF and BNP heart-lands. I have a big, mixed and messy family. My DH is white and we have black, white, mixed in our family! All but me still live in SE London. We are not,
never have and never will cower(ing) to racists.
Racism exists, get over it! What are your prejudices, OP?

There are European countries that I would find more problematic to live in than the UK, but each to there own. I know that there are non white people living in these European countries that have safe and free lives.

I am 58 years old and have never experienced abject racism that has made me fearful,
lonely or scared. And neither have my family members or any black people I know. I am not in denial and I have sympathy for those that have.

You need to get back on MN and engage in this conversation, what is your motive?

I feel sorry for you! Make sure you lock the door and batten down the hatches!

'Racism exists, get over it'?!

Does that mean women should just 'get over' sexism and misogyny?

That gay people should just accept homophobia?

Really?

Baital · 02/11/2025 09:32

DD should just 'get over' an adult man swearing at her and calling her ni**er on the bus as she went to school? For doing nothing except existing, as a teenage girl on public transport?

That's the country you want and are happy to have?

MNLurker1345 · 02/11/2025 09:44

Baital · 02/11/2025 09:28

'Racism exists, get over it'?!

Does that mean women should just 'get over' sexism and misogyny?

That gay people should just accept homophobia?

Really?

Maybe not the best choice of words, but we live in the society we do and there is much unfairness, inequality, prejudice, cruelty, hatred….! We have to deal with it and we do. What we haven’t done and most will never
do is eradicate it. But the best of humans do engage and try to do better!

@Tauranga, I am questioning the authenticity of this poster also and what their real motive is. OP has been posting this type of thread constantly and never re-engaging.

Tauranga · 02/11/2025 09:48

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Fellontheground · 02/11/2025 09:49

I empathise with your fears, however unfounded they are. The reality is though that black men are more likely to be in danger from other black men so 🤷🏿‍♀️

Tauranga · 02/11/2025 09:51

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You weren't debating, you were accusing a poster of something with no proof at all. That's not a debate.

Kayakinggg · 02/11/2025 09:54

Just to let you know I’ve been working all last might and this morning and will get back to some of these posters soon. Thanks for everyone’s replies and I am a real person :)

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Tauranga · 02/11/2025 10:00

CorneliaCupp · 02/11/2025 09:53

You weren't debating, you were accusing a poster of something with no proof at all. That's not a debate.

How would the debate go?

" this house believes that mumsnet unwittingly allows paid activists to post anti Reform posts"

Baital · 02/11/2025 10:00

MNLurker1345 · 02/11/2025 09:44

Maybe not the best choice of words, but we live in the society we do and there is much unfairness, inequality, prejudice, cruelty, hatred….! We have to deal with it and we do. What we haven’t done and most will never
do is eradicate it. But the best of humans do engage and try to do better!

@Tauranga, I am questioning the authenticity of this poster also and what their real motive is. OP has been posting this type of thread constantly and never re-engaging.

'Deal with it' - well, yes, there's no choice

But you can deal with it AND challenge it

MNLurker1345 · 02/11/2025 10:02

Kayakinggg · 02/11/2025 09:54

Just to let you know I’ve been working all last might and this morning and will get back to some of these posters soon. Thanks for everyone’s replies and I am a real person :)

Brilliant! Welcome back! You have been busy. You obviously have grave concerns for your family because you have posted more than once on this matter.

Would you feel safer living somewhere else? Does everyone in your family feel as scared and
lonely as you do? Your fears are very sad and
worrying considering, despite current events, we do live in a country where law and order are at the heart of our institutions.

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 02/11/2025 10:02

Katypp · 01/11/2025 20:53

Has anyone on this thread actually been targeted/threatened or is it a case of getting worked up about something without any real basis?
Because there is a thread like this one MN on pretty much a daily basis.
I know i will get flamed for this. But why ramp up the drama?

"Calm down dear! Stop being hysterical!"

That's what you are essentially saying about the rise of hate in this country. Its not a false perception. The hate we feel is real.

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CuriousKangaroo · 02/11/2025 10:13

I understand OP. I have experienced a rise in racism and my white husband and I worry about our mixed race daughter. I hate the fact that if Reform win the next election, my daughter will grow up with a PM who is racist and hate her for the colour of her skin - and know that there are a significant proportion of the population who feel the same.

I don’t have anything helpful to say, but just wanted to post in solidarity, because your post will no doubt attract racists and Reform supporters who don’t believe or accept it is happening and will try to gaslight you. And so I want to say that it is real, that you are not being dramatic, and we just have to hope it will pass.

Kayakinggg · 02/11/2025 10:21

Baital · 02/11/2025 09:32

DD should just 'get over' an adult man swearing at her and calling her ni**er on the bus as she went to school? For doing nothing except existing, as a teenage girl on public transport?

That's the country you want and are happy to have?

I’m so sorry this happened. How is your daughter now? This is horrific. Whereabouts in the UK do you live? I’m so sorry this is happening to innocent children. This is what breaks my heart the most. Kids are kids FFS… this is not a good place for any country to be and a huge step backwards. My concern is for the future is this the what’s happening now and reform arnt even in power yet.

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Kayakinggg · 02/11/2025 10:23

CuriousKangaroo · 02/11/2025 10:13

I understand OP. I have experienced a rise in racism and my white husband and I worry about our mixed race daughter. I hate the fact that if Reform win the next election, my daughter will grow up with a PM who is racist and hate her for the colour of her skin - and know that there are a significant proportion of the population who feel the same.

I don’t have anything helpful to say, but just wanted to post in solidarity, because your post will no doubt attract racists and Reform supporters who don’t believe or accept it is happening and will try to gaslight you. And so I want to say that it is real, that you are not being dramatic, and we just have to hope it will pass.

Thank you for understanding, it helps to not feel so alone but also so sorry you’re suffering too. ❤️ no mother should have to fear for their child’s safety based on the colour of their skin in a ‘progressive’ country like Britain 🇬🇧

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FenceBooksCycle · 02/11/2025 10:29

Yanbu to worry but you are catastrophising and the magnitude of the threat is lower than your fears are making you perceive it. You are right that Reform is fundamentally racist, and their increasing popularity is making the racists feel safe to say in public what they really think. However, the people who are not racist, of every racial background including people of Caucasian origin, far outnumber the racists. The more the racists speak out loud, the more the nonracist majority will eventually push back - the problem at the moment is residual apathy but the more overt the racism becomes, the more apathy gets dispelled. You are on the front line so obviously are seeing the effects sooner than the comfortably apathetic do, but it's not going to stay that way. Don't stop speaking out. Don't stop telling it like it is, but have faith in humanity that by that means the danger will eventually be overcome.

Kayakinggg · 02/11/2025 10:32

Ablondiebutagoody · 02/11/2025 08:53

DS is mixed race and our family feel fine. People everywhere have always been fine towards us, even flag waver types. We haven't noticed any change.

Thank you much for sharing. This sport of positivity helps me to feel better

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Kayakinggg · 02/11/2025 10:34

FenceBooksCycle · 02/11/2025 10:29

Yanbu to worry but you are catastrophising and the magnitude of the threat is lower than your fears are making you perceive it. You are right that Reform is fundamentally racist, and their increasing popularity is making the racists feel safe to say in public what they really think. However, the people who are not racist, of every racial background including people of Caucasian origin, far outnumber the racists. The more the racists speak out loud, the more the nonracist majority will eventually push back - the problem at the moment is residual apathy but the more overt the racism becomes, the more apathy gets dispelled. You are on the front line so obviously are seeing the effects sooner than the comfortably apathetic do, but it's not going to stay that way. Don't stop speaking out. Don't stop telling it like it is, but have faith in humanity that by that means the danger will eventually be overcome.

Thank you much for your empathy and understanding and hope: it means a lot

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