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Fear of safety for my mixed race family

170 replies

Kayakinggg · 01/11/2025 20:22

I feel a lot of worry about the safety of the country for mixed race people. They are the most precious people in my life. They are my family. My son, my daughter and my husband are all mixed race. I don’t have a close relationship with any other family members and I have a few other friends but they are white so don’t really
Get it.

I know I am not overreacting as racism is clearly on the rise and rampant and the politicians are deeply corrupt in their tactics to turn us all against each other.

I feel guilty to be the only white one in the family. I feel so angry that when I choose to have children, race was not an issue in the UK 🇬🇧 I hate to see it but I feel like I’ve failed them to raise them here even though I didn’t know what the future held. I have this desire to make a plan to move abroad but logistically and financially o don’t think that will be possible.

I feel like everyone else (that I know) is safe and protected but my little precious family is at threat. I can’t even speak to my own parents about it as they don’t believe reform are racist.

I feel like I’m stuck in a nightmare and it’s only going to get worse.

In my deepest darkest moments I fear my family being taken from me as there is a hate group towards mixed race people that is only growing. I’m scared of history repeating itself.

My feelings are worry, fear, anger, loneliness.

AIBU?!

OP posts:
Enigma54 · 02/11/2025 16:56

Mixed race here. I’m the only non white member out of our family of 4. I moved from a VERY multicultural town, many years ago, to a very NON multi cultural town, with no issues at all. I don’t even think about it.

My mum experienced a bit of racism
in the 70’s, being married to a non white man. My brother ( who is the most “ white” of us 3 siblings) experienced a lot of racism growing up ( in a multi cultural school!!)

I don’t know what the answer is. Racism is awful. Although my town is still quite white, it is close to Manchester and Liverpool, so I kind of feel okay right now.

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 17:12

JHound · 02/11/2025 16:47

Why have you completely changed what I said? Are their dodgy areas in Brum? Of course there are. There are dodgy areas everywhere. But that was not what I asked about.

I have asked why you said Birmingham does not feel safe for non-muslims? You were there on a work trip so I don’t think you visited every area so what about your visit made you feel that the non-muslims living in Birmingham are not safe?

Edited

I worked in the outskirts of Birmingham and lived 20 m away for 18 years so I’m no stranger to Birmingham . And while the centre and afluente areas are safe anywhere else , specially where specific “ minorities “ live are far from safe for a white woman . So no I don’t think Birmingham is safe as a whole .
Maybe now that I lived away my notion of safety is different but if you think this is a racist or xenophobic thing or thinking of accusing me if such I’m not British myself and I’m married to a mixed race men and have mixed race children .

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/11/2025 17:19

Tauranga · 02/11/2025 10:00

How would the debate go?

" this house believes that mumsnet unwittingly allows paid activists to post anti Reform posts"

Who is getting paid?
Who is paying them?
How can I get me a slice of that pie?🤑

FullOfMomsense · 02/11/2025 18:07

AmusedCyanFinch · 02/11/2025 16:41

You are part of the problem tbh. “When I chose to have children, race was not an issue in the UK”. That sentence of yours says a lot and shows how ignorant you are and not actually different from the white people you speak of in your post.

This.

Notagain75 · 02/11/2025 18:10

I can understand why you are worried and I understand what you mean but the racists are thankfully still a small.minority in this country .
You are being unreasonable to consider moving because I think in comparison with a lot of other countries the UK is a lot less racist.

JHound · 02/11/2025 18:22

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 17:12

I worked in the outskirts of Birmingham and lived 20 m away for 18 years so I’m no stranger to Birmingham . And while the centre and afluente areas are safe anywhere else , specially where specific “ minorities “ live are far from safe for a white woman . So no I don’t think Birmingham is safe as a whole .
Maybe now that I lived away my notion of safety is different but if you think this is a racist or xenophobic thing or thinking of accusing me if such I’m not British myself and I’m married to a mixed race men and have mixed race children .

Before you said Birmingham was not safe for non-muslims now you have said Birmingham is not safe for white women. (Who are these “specific minorities” and why are all other women safe in Birmingham but not white women?)

Then your experience of Birmingham was a work trip now you used to live there -

Which is it?

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 20:08

JHound · 02/11/2025 18:22

Before you said Birmingham was not safe for non-muslims now you have said Birmingham is not safe for white women. (Who are these “specific minorities” and why are all other women safe in Birmingham but not white women?)

Then your experience of Birmingham was a work trip now you used to live there -

Which is it?

Edited

I never said non Muslims I said specifically where I went as a non Muslim I did not feel safe since I’m a woman all I can give is my prespective . And in my perspective I did not feel safe a white woman in an all Muslim area where most people I walked past where men looking down on me and all women I saw where fully covered .If you choose to be offended by this then you are part of the issue we are currently having . If you cannot accept that people’s perspectives are different then again your are part if the problem . Birmingham is a city with massive multicultural issues , you being from Birmingham doesn’t change that . You know for a fact they are there . You know the crime rates are huge too . I work along the court system too so this is not my opinion , it’s a know fact .

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 20:09

JHound · 02/11/2025 18:22

Before you said Birmingham was not safe for non-muslims now you have said Birmingham is not safe for white women. (Who are these “specific minorities” and why are all other women safe in Birmingham but not white women?)

Then your experience of Birmingham was a work trip now you used to live there -

Which is it?

Edited

And I never said I lived there I said I lived 20 minutes from Birmingham. I work there often now but not as much as I did a few years ago .

anyolddinosaur · 02/11/2025 20:42

You are not unreasonable to be worried - I'm worried about the rising tide of intolerance too. However many people are at risk for various reasons, for example being disabled is a massive risk, and saying it's only your family is saying that skin colour is the most important thing in the world. That attitude fuels racism.

BundleBoogie · 02/11/2025 21:27

JHound · 02/11/2025 16:39

I don’t use X but this helps. I thought you had links to data but your source is opinion posts on X.

As for the countries taken over by Islamists - neither Afghanistan nor Iran had open, safe, progressive regimes pre the Ayatollah / Taliban take over. Both has oppressive leadership and had for decades. They simply changed the flavour of the oppression. Not sure that applies to stable modern democracies like Britain or most European nations.

but then you question two other people’s accounts that don’t fit the same narrative?

Whose narrative have I questioned

  1. I asked for your data source as you have made claims that suggest data is behind them.
  2. There is one person who felt Birmingham was unsafe for non-muslims and I asked why they felt that. (Purely because as a non-muslim Brummie who still has family there this is something that interests me).
Edited

We’d all love it not to be but it is actually happening - dismissing it as my ‘opinion’ doesn’t stop it being true. Maybe try joining X and looking at the posts these Muslim leaders put up - they are not hard to find.

You questioned the accounts from @Harnee and @freakingscared yet you accepted others without question. It just struck me as being odd.

Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt and Lebanon were previously much freer and safer societies than they are now with the rise of Islamist and associated terrorism.

Timeforabitofpeace · 02/11/2025 21:41

Im livid on your behalf OP.

ChirpyPearlMoose · 02/11/2025 21:57

I don’t think it’s correct or fair to suggest that the white British people who are voting Reform, hanging up flags and being perhaps legitimately concerned about immigration and the perceived unfairness of having taxpayers’ money spent on hotels for asylum seekers are racist. However, I acknowledge that there is a significant overlap with the far right white supremacist contingent who now seem to think it’s safe/socially acceptable to be openly racist again and that does worry me too. (We’re also mixed).

It’s always going to be just a small handful of idiots but you never know when you might meet one of them so no, YANBU to be worried but I guess you have to try not to let it affect your life otherwise they win. Easier said than done I know.

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 02/11/2025 22:21

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 20:08

I never said non Muslims I said specifically where I went as a non Muslim I did not feel safe since I’m a woman all I can give is my prespective . And in my perspective I did not feel safe a white woman in an all Muslim area where most people I walked past where men looking down on me and all women I saw where fully covered .If you choose to be offended by this then you are part of the issue we are currently having . If you cannot accept that people’s perspectives are different then again your are part if the problem . Birmingham is a city with massive multicultural issues , you being from Birmingham doesn’t change that . You know for a fact they are there . You know the crime rates are huge too . I work along the court system too so this is not my opinion , it’s a know fact .

As a white woman myself, this is baffling to me. I was in a predominantly Muslim area myself earlier today. Why do you not feel safe if you're around all other women being covered? It never occurred to me to feel unsafe. They're just other women, going about their daily lives, minding their own business.
As for being around Muslim men, that didn't occur to me to be either as men are men, regardless of their race, skin colour, nationality. I feel the same around them as I do around white men.

freakingscared · 02/11/2025 22:35

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 02/11/2025 22:21

As a white woman myself, this is baffling to me. I was in a predominantly Muslim area myself earlier today. Why do you not feel safe if you're around all other women being covered? It never occurred to me to feel unsafe. They're just other women, going about their daily lives, minding their own business.
As for being around Muslim men, that didn't occur to me to be either as men are men, regardless of their race, skin colour, nationality. I feel the same around them as I do around white men.

I can’t answer that for you . Maybe it’s my line of work . Maybe I just don’t feel comfortable with ultra religious communities and know enough to know statistically I’m less safe amounts certain men .

Batmanisaplaceinturkey · 03/11/2025 01:05

The descent of this thread proves the OPs point. Full of posts chock full of racist stereotypes.

BundleBoogie · 03/11/2025 10:32

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 02/11/2025 22:21

As a white woman myself, this is baffling to me. I was in a predominantly Muslim area myself earlier today. Why do you not feel safe if you're around all other women being covered? It never occurred to me to feel unsafe. They're just other women, going about their daily lives, minding their own business.
As for being around Muslim men, that didn't occur to me to be either as men are men, regardless of their race, skin colour, nationality. I feel the same around them as I do around white men.

Does it not make you feel uncomfortable that some of those men (obviously not all) think that it’s ok to ban you from public ‘family’ events because you are female? Or that quite a few of them believe that homosexuality should be banned?

And some of those men, particularly in Birmingham have called for women to be stoned to death for transgressions ? Or for girls to be forced into marriage?

It would concern me somewhat.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

Vaninees · 03/11/2025 12:35

Baital · 02/11/2025 12:30

Well, i feel a lot safer as a white woman than for my DD, who.is black.

This says more about your mind set, than reality.

Baital · 03/11/2025 12:50

Vaninees · 03/11/2025 12:35

This says more about your mind set, than reality.

I have never been racially abused on public transport, she has. Random verbal aggression. It's based on experience, not mindset.

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 03/11/2025 13:45

Baital · 03/11/2025 12:50

I have never been racially abused on public transport, she has. Random verbal aggression. It's based on experience, not mindset.

Exactly - as a white, British English woman, I can say in all my years I've never been racially abused, verbally or physically either.
It's common sense that that's hardly ever going to happen whereas if you're not, it's much more likely to.

Locutus2000 · 03/11/2025 16:09

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 02/11/2025 22:21

As a white woman myself, this is baffling to me. I was in a predominantly Muslim area myself earlier today. Why do you not feel safe if you're around all other women being covered? It never occurred to me to feel unsafe. They're just other women, going about their daily lives, minding their own business.
As for being around Muslim men, that didn't occur to me to be either as men are men, regardless of their race, skin colour, nationality. I feel the same around them as I do around white men.

Why do you not feel safe if you're around all other women being covered?

Textbook racism, sadly.

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