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To think everyone is so rude nowadays.

324 replies

Elfie111 · 30/10/2025 13:43

I just returned home from a shopping trip in a large shopping mall (can’t say where as would be outing) - 😂 not really, it was Bluewater.

I just want to know why everyone is so hostile. I know this has been discussed before but is it really the post Covid bad attitude / no social skills or awareness.

I was making my way out of a changing room with a pram this morning and a mother and adult daughter blocked both aisles to leave the changing room and then glared at me. I waited for them to move as they seemed as though they were quite invested in being aggressively in the way/ I was a massive inconvenience for wanting to exit the changing room. Normally I would say ‘excuse me’ or ‘sorry’ (I know people hate this as why am I apologising for being alive) but today I thought - I’m not even going to speak. You know you’re in the way. You’re both glaring at me and instead of getting changed in the cubicle you’re in the gangway with open mouthed gormless stares.

In my experience people behaving like that is more and more common now.

Does anyone have a similar experience?

OP posts:
CuriousKangaroo · 02/11/2025 09:52

DoraSpenlow · 30/10/2025 14:38

I know what you mean! I do the poppy collection down our street. Yesterday I knocked at a door and a little girl of about 3 or 4 answered the door. I was just asking if mummy or daddy was in when a young woman, presumably mum, came storming down the hallway, roughly pulled the child in and slammed the door in my face. It was obvious why I was there I had a tray of poppies. No problem if she didn't want to give. Plenty of people say they don't support the charity or have already contributed. I just smile and say thank you and goodbye. So unnecessary and rude. I really wanted to shout through the letterbox that a polite no thank you would have sufficed - I didn't though.

I would never be and never am so rude to people who come collecting for charity.

But you know what? - I absolutely hate it. It is my home and I find people turning up at my door interrupting my work (during the day) or family time (in the evening) to ask for money unacceptable. In fact, I think it is incredibly rude and intrusive.

CuriousKangaroo · 02/11/2025 09:56

I know what you mean, OP. I don’t think it is Covid related per se, because I have definitely seen a decline in manners and an increase in selfishness over the last 10 years or so.

But I just try to remember that I can control no one but me. I will continue to be polite because it’s the right thing to do, and I will continue to teach my DC to do the same. I’m not averse to a passive aggressive remark in the face of rudeness though… Even just a sharp “really??” Seems to have an impact.

RhaenysRocks · 02/11/2025 10:32

CuriousKangaroo · 02/11/2025 09:52

I would never be and never am so rude to people who come collecting for charity.

But you know what? - I absolutely hate it. It is my home and I find people turning up at my door interrupting my work (during the day) or family time (in the evening) to ask for money unacceptable. In fact, I think it is incredibly rude and intrusive.

So don't answer, or just say a polite no and close the door. It's not incredibly rude and intrusive.. they aren't barging into your living room. Life involves interacting with others, existing alongside others. It means a bit of compromise, a bit of less than our perfect ideal but fine.

Picklelily99 · 02/11/2025 13:23

People walking 3 and 4 abreast, and expecting me to f***g LEVITATE! If walking on a narrow path with my husband and people are approaching, one of us drops behind to go 'single file', assuming the others will do likewise - oh no, on they come, expecting the whole bloody path to themselves! Cf's the lot of them!

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 13:26

Picklelily99 · 02/11/2025 13:23

People walking 3 and 4 abreast, and expecting me to f***g LEVITATE! If walking on a narrow path with my husband and people are approaching, one of us drops behind to go 'single file', assuming the others will do likewise - oh no, on they come, expecting the whole bloody path to themselves! Cf's the lot of them!

I hate it when people do this, I just carry on walking, I mean we brush arms but I’m not walking on the road.

Bluecrystal2 · 02/11/2025 13:43

I think the more we progress in terms of technology, particularly social media, with its decrease in face-to-face communication skills, enables anonymous disrespect. I've noticed on Mumsnet too, replies like WTF and name calling, instead of a rational polite argument. I've just been called Tommy Robinson!

We're going back in time and will soon be like Neanderthals but with all the mod cons.

suburburban · 02/11/2025 17:29

labamba18 · 01/11/2025 05:23

It’s too busy. That’s why people are rude. There are studies that when populations rise we become more competitive and selfish (presumably because subconsciously we think we have to fight for resources).

Yes it has become very busy

Auburngal · 02/11/2025 17:34

I was at a Poundland which was closing down the other day. Heard one man shout “only 5% off food?” to a upset PL worker.

Staff have zero control on prices. Plus this PL was a Wilko. Retailers that took over former Wilko stores usually hired the former Wilko staff.

This means that several hundred people have been made redundant twice in two years.

People who hurl abuse at staff, especially those who will be out of work in a couple of weeks time are scum

dynamiccactus · 02/11/2025 17:37

landlordhell · 30/10/2025 14:39

At my dentist recently I walked in and receptionist was typing at her computer. Didn’t look up. I waited…… and waited……. . Eventually she just looked and said ‘“Yes?” When I said my name and appointment she just said” Wait upstairs.” How do these people get the job in the first place?

That's what gets me. There are so many completely useless people in jobs, and we have thousands of well educated graduates who can't get jobs! How are some of these people in work?

What annoys me is when shop staff see a queue and ignore it. When I worked in a shop you had to stop filling the shelves and go to the tills and serve people if they were waiting.

The thing I have noticed in the last few weeks is the amount of beeping that goes on. I was beeped from a few cars back when I couldn't go because someone was in the way! And I see (hear) it when I am out walking too - someone beeping someone who can't help where they are, or the fact that the lights are red!

dynamiccactus · 02/11/2025 17:39

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 13:26

I hate it when people do this, I just carry on walking, I mean we brush arms but I’m not walking on the road.

I hate this too. Apparently walking is good for you, reduces stress and cortisol.

But it doesn't because of prats like this (and people who park on pavements).

I always stop and force them to go round me if they won't give way. Usually, when I see a large group on a pavement, I cross the road if I can but it's not always possible if there are cars coming.

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 17:42

dynamiccactus · 02/11/2025 17:39

I hate this too. Apparently walking is good for you, reduces stress and cortisol.

But it doesn't because of prats like this (and people who park on pavements).

I always stop and force them to go round me if they won't give way. Usually, when I see a large group on a pavement, I cross the road if I can but it's not always possible if there are cars coming.

To be fair where I live has very narrow streets, so they have to park on the pavement, but there’s no excuse why a group of people can’t walk single file to let one person past.

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 17:49

dynamiccactus · 02/11/2025 17:37

That's what gets me. There are so many completely useless people in jobs, and we have thousands of well educated graduates who can't get jobs! How are some of these people in work?

What annoys me is when shop staff see a queue and ignore it. When I worked in a shop you had to stop filling the shelves and go to the tills and serve people if they were waiting.

The thing I have noticed in the last few weeks is the amount of beeping that goes on. I was beeped from a few cars back when I couldn't go because someone was in the way! And I see (hear) it when I am out walking too - someone beeping someone who can't help where they are, or the fact that the lights are red!

Sorry to say but we have to ignore it as it’s not part of my job I stack the shelves, a customer did once ask me to go on the till, I politely said I couldn’t, of course she wasn’t happy, I had to get my manager who repeated to her I do not work on the tills.

Auburngal · 02/11/2025 21:05

@pinenuts75 customers need to understand that not everyone is till trained. I wasn’t trained on the tills until 4-5 months after I started.

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 21:14

Auburngal · 02/11/2025 21:05

@pinenuts75 customers need to understand that not everyone is till trained. I wasn’t trained on the tills until 4-5 months after I started.

I am till trained, but it’s not my area to work in, my manager states delivery has to be put out or the next days delivery wouldn’t fit in the building.

Auburngal · 02/11/2025 21:46

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 21:14

I am till trained, but it’s not my area to work in, my manager states delivery has to be put out or the next days delivery wouldn’t fit in the building.

Working on fresh or frozen, it was impossible to jump on a till as only could work at a roller for 30 mins on the shop floor. It took a few minutes to get the roller in the walk in freezer as had to put a freezer coat on

It was pointless getting me off the shop floor onto a checkout. As by the time I put the roller in the freezer, the queues had gone. Customers seem to go to the checkout at the same time

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 21:49

Auburngal · 02/11/2025 21:46

Working on fresh or frozen, it was impossible to jump on a till as only could work at a roller for 30 mins on the shop floor. It took a few minutes to get the roller in the walk in freezer as had to put a freezer coat on

It was pointless getting me off the shop floor onto a checkout. As by the time I put the roller in the freezer, the queues had gone. Customers seem to go to the checkout at the same time

I don’t think some customers understand, we are not just there simply to serve.

TheTwitcher11 · 02/11/2025 21:54

TeenLifeMum · 30/10/2025 14:21

I see this more and more in the south east. I live in the south west and it’s much more friendly in general. It has deteriorated since Covid though. It’s like people used up niceness in the first 6 months of the pandemic.

and they drive more aggressively in South East London too (and I can say that, I’m from there lol)

Redpeach · 02/11/2025 21:54

Picklelily99 · 02/11/2025 13:23

People walking 3 and 4 abreast, and expecting me to f***g LEVITATE! If walking on a narrow path with my husband and people are approaching, one of us drops behind to go 'single file', assuming the others will do likewise - oh no, on they come, expecting the whole bloody path to themselves! Cf's the lot of them!

Could you just walk around them

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 03/11/2025 06:35

No wonder people prefer to stay at home.
I don’t like crowds.
I avoid crowded places like the plague if possible.
I even walk further to avoid walking near the busy main road.
What gets on my nerves are people on bikes riding on the very narrow pavements where I live. Get off the pavement you a*hole!
I don’t care if you don’t like riding your bike on the road, that is not my problem.
I’ve even had people (well males, it’s always males) ringing their bell to get passed me on the pavement. Ffs get on the road.

Auburngal · 03/11/2025 07:31

pinenuts75 · 02/11/2025 21:49

I don’t think some customers understand, we are not just there simply to serve.

We had two checkouts which were out of order. Both awaiting the same part. Had customers asking myself and other colleagues could we open those checkouts!

We explained to them they are out of order. Some customers went mad, I remember one of the checkouts there was smoke coming from the main unit. If we did open the checkouts, we either risked our lives or our jobs!

Has anyone noticed that the most crazy demands come from the older side of society?

TeenLifeMum · 03/11/2025 09:19

TheTwitcher11 · 02/11/2025 21:54

and they drive more aggressively in South East London too (and I can say that, I’m from there lol)

I’ve seen this, although round here we have lots of round abouts and they seem to really confuse the locals.

Redpeach · 03/11/2025 09:29

Lots of very angry people on this thread, i guess that spills out into everyday interactions

TheatricalLife · 03/11/2025 09:44

Redpeach · 03/11/2025 09:29

Lots of very angry people on this thread, i guess that spills out into everyday interactions

Most threads on mumsnet have lots of disproportionately angry people, so I agree that it's not unusual to see that it's the same way in "real life" as well . I often wonder what it's like to live your life so angry about such trivial stuff. Can't be nice.

IsItSnowing · 03/11/2025 10:19

CuriousKangaroo · 02/11/2025 09:52

I would never be and never am so rude to people who come collecting for charity.

But you know what? - I absolutely hate it. It is my home and I find people turning up at my door interrupting my work (during the day) or family time (in the evening) to ask for money unacceptable. In fact, I think it is incredibly rude and intrusive.

I agree. I'm never rude to them but I really hate that they come round.
It's intrusive but it's also really pushy. If it's anyone else selling at my door they get a firm no thank you and the door shut. It's just feels harder with a charity and I know they know this.
But I refuse now. I choose who I give to and when/where and it's definitely not on my doorstep.

Redpeach · 03/11/2025 10:29

TheatricalLife · 03/11/2025 09:44

Most threads on mumsnet have lots of disproportionately angry people, so I agree that it's not unusual to see that it's the same way in "real life" as well . I often wonder what it's like to live your life so angry about such trivial stuff. Can't be nice.

I guess forums like this attract angry discussion

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