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Could there be stricter rules on dog ownership?

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Mamalicious16 · 28/10/2025 18:25

Thinking of getting a dog and came across this article? Could there be stricter rules and regulations on dog ownership?
Many, like the RVC, believe there should be. With so many pet dogs in society – a significant proportion of which have poor social and training skills – many feel there needs to be more interventions to emphasise the importance of responsible dog ownership. We are already seeing more restrictions on dogs in public spaces in the UK. Councils are frequently adopting Public Space Protection Orders, to ban dogs from areas such as public parks, beaches and even car parks.
This is largely as a result of too many people allowing their dogs to foul public spaces and creating tension by walking too many dogs at once. Indeed, in many towns and cities – especially in tourist areas, the numbers of people visiting with a dog has become vastly more noticeable.

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FeeLipa · 28/10/2025 22:28

Unfortunately some people are just idiots, and they own dogs. I'm a dog walker and spend most days trying to avoiding them.

It's the feckless breeders who churn out litters and sell them to anyone with money who should be regulated. Last week on FB a post popped up from a 70yr old looking to re-home her young Belgian Malinois as she couldn't handle it. Who sold her that dog?!

I also had an enquiry if I could walk an Anatolian shepherd who lives in a 3rd floor flat. They're breed to live with herds and kill wolves FFS.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 22:30

CombatBarbie · 28/10/2025 21:41

Local environment workers/street cleaners. Its a swab sample taken from the poo tested in a lab. Police can also request dog documents/dna cert at random. They are very rigid with animals like dogs coming over the border so it's easier to contain granted.

If everydog is chipped, all this information can held centrally. It would rely on local services carrying chip guns.....folk would soon get the message. £1000 fine if tour dog is found to be unregistered or has no dna on record in Gib.

Could most be like owning a car and registering new keepers etc but all done via the chip. Going forward vets should be able to retain puppies coming in for initial injections if not chipped/DNAd

Edited

What happens to the dogs owned by people who do not pay the "poo tax"?

Mamalicious16 · 28/10/2025 22:32

Random question. WHY DO some dog owners hang poo bags on trees?

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vodkaredbullgirl · 28/10/2025 22:41

Mamalicious16 · 28/10/2025 22:32

Random question. WHY DO some dog owners hang poo bags on trees?

Because they are idiots.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 22:52

Mamalicious16 · 28/10/2025 22:32

Random question. WHY DO some dog owners hang poo bags on trees?

A long walk

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 28/10/2025 23:02

Mamalicious16 · 28/10/2025 22:32

Random question. WHY DO some dog owners hang poo bags on trees?

Because they’re feckless,selfish and irresponsible. Think nothing of leaving dog shite in bags hanging in tree like sewage baubles

mathanxiety · 28/10/2025 23:19

I live in a suburb of a big American city where there are strict rules on ownership of dogs and their deportment in public.

Dogs have to be registered at city hall, and in order to register, owners have to show proof of all vaccinations (wild animals carry rabies here) and also chipping.
No more than two dogs per address.
Dogs have to be leashed at all times when outdoors in front of their home.
Max two dogs walked together by the same person at any given time.
Dogs are not allowed on playgrounds. They can be in parks, leashed and fully under the control of their owners.
Owners are required to pick up poop after their dogs. Owners can be fined for violations.
Nuisance barking / howling/ whining is dealt with by a visit from Animal Control to discuss remedies for the dog, followed by fines If the problem persists.
There are three locked dog parks; owners register and pay a nominal annual fee for access to the dog parks (by scanning a card).

mathanxiety · 28/10/2025 23:31

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 20:58

Are they doing anything wrong?

It's pretty hard to track down your dog's pile of poo when it's off gallivanting with a pack of other dogs in a big park. Assuming you're interested in picking up your dog's poo, of course.

SwingTheMonkey · 28/10/2025 23:36

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 28/10/2025 18:56

I live in a neighbourhood were people have doggy day care that costs same as nursery
They have dog Nannie’s, house sitters, dog spa, dog pampering
And stop putting coats and jumpers on dogs. They really look ghastly and it’s unnecessary

Why do you care what other people do?

And some breeds absolutely do need to wear a coat in the winter.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 23:38

SwingTheMonkey · 28/10/2025 23:36

Why do you care what other people do?

And some breeds absolutely do need to wear a coat in the winter.

Yeah, why are some people wound up by things that do not affect them at all?

They hated my elderly greyhound wearing a jumper. They need to get a life.

mathanxiety · 28/10/2025 23:42

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 20:56

If treating a dog well is treating them like a human, then what are we doing wrong?

Treating your dog well means treating him like a dog.

Treating him like a human is putting your own needs first - emotional needs, psychological needs.

The dog has specific needs as a dog, and the first need is for owners to completely respect his canine nature. Dogs interpret their environment and the people in it with dog eyes and a dog brain. They are pack animals and your family is their pack. They need a leader who consistently reminds them of their place in the pack. Dog owners have to be very disciplined about their interactions with and treatment of the dog if the dog is to be happy.

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 23:44

mathanxiety · 28/10/2025 23:42

Treating your dog well means treating him like a dog.

Treating him like a human is putting your own needs first - emotional needs, psychological needs.

The dog has specific needs as a dog, and the first need is for owners to completely respect his canine nature. Dogs interpret their environment and the people in it with dog eyes and a dog brain. They are pack animals and your family is their pack. They need a leader who consistently reminds them of their place in the pack. Dog owners have to be very disciplined about their interactions with and treatment of the dog if the dog is to be happy.

I have been told me dressing my dog in a jumper is destroying humanity.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 28/10/2025 23:47

mathanxiety · 28/10/2025 23:42

Treating your dog well means treating him like a dog.

Treating him like a human is putting your own needs first - emotional needs, psychological needs.

The dog has specific needs as a dog, and the first need is for owners to completely respect his canine nature. Dogs interpret their environment and the people in it with dog eyes and a dog brain. They are pack animals and your family is their pack. They need a leader who consistently reminds them of their place in the pack. Dog owners have to be very disciplined about their interactions with and treatment of the dog if the dog is to be happy.

Pack order has been discredited. All of this is very outmoded thinking.

And what is this:

Dog owners have to be very disciplined about their interactions with and treatment of the dog if the dog is to be happy.

supposed to mean?

Spidey66 · 28/10/2025 23:49

Another day, another dog hating thread.

yawns.

SwingTheMonkey · 28/10/2025 23:51

mathanxiety · 28/10/2025 23:42

Treating your dog well means treating him like a dog.

Treating him like a human is putting your own needs first - emotional needs, psychological needs.

The dog has specific needs as a dog, and the first need is for owners to completely respect his canine nature. Dogs interpret their environment and the people in it with dog eyes and a dog brain. They are pack animals and your family is their pack. They need a leader who consistently reminds them of their place in the pack. Dog owners have to be very disciplined about their interactions with and treatment of the dog if the dog is to be happy.

What has that got to do with putting a layer on a single coated, low to the floor dog in winter?

Chiseltip · 28/10/2025 23:52

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 28/10/2025 22:05

HOUSE! There it is. The prefer dogs to boisterous child poster.

Spaniels are wayyyy cuter than children though . .

mondaytosunday · 28/10/2025 23:54

@CoffeeLipstickKeysmy dog has alopecia and has no hair on her back and only minimally on her legs. Some very short haired dogs also get very cold. Sometimes sweaters are essential.
I think all dogs should be registered with an annual fee. This fee can be reduced if the animal is neutered. There could be more dog parks to allow them to run and play without bothering people. Dog owners use parks daily all year round - more than most users. Banning them is ridiculous. There are three parks near me, one requires dogs on leads. Another has a secure play area for kids. There is room to also make a secure area for dogs (there is a section that is already fenced and has fallen in to disuse but no one goes in there as it’s overgrown). People own dogs and everyone should be able to use the park together. I agree there are some irresponsible dog owners however, and i don’t like dogs in cafés - I have taken mine in on occasion but the behaviour of other dogs puts me off- an owner should know how their dog will behave and not bring it in unless it can sit or lay quietly.

SwingTheMonkey · 28/10/2025 23:57

mondaytosunday · 28/10/2025 23:54

@CoffeeLipstickKeysmy dog has alopecia and has no hair on her back and only minimally on her legs. Some very short haired dogs also get very cold. Sometimes sweaters are essential.
I think all dogs should be registered with an annual fee. This fee can be reduced if the animal is neutered. There could be more dog parks to allow them to run and play without bothering people. Dog owners use parks daily all year round - more than most users. Banning them is ridiculous. There are three parks near me, one requires dogs on leads. Another has a secure play area for kids. There is room to also make a secure area for dogs (there is a section that is already fenced and has fallen in to disuse but no one goes in there as it’s overgrown). People own dogs and everyone should be able to use the park together. I agree there are some irresponsible dog owners however, and i don’t like dogs in cafés - I have taken mine in on occasion but the behaviour of other dogs puts me off- an owner should know how their dog will behave and not bring it in unless it can sit or lay quietly.

We’ve recently got a puppy - after our last dog passed a couple of years ago. Vets are no longer advising neutering dogs, which I was really surprised about.

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 29/10/2025 00:10

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 23:44

I have been told me dressing my dog in a jumper is destroying humanity.

By people who know nothing about dogs. Therefore it is meaningless.

Hellohelga · 29/10/2025 00:23

Tutorpuzzle · 28/10/2025 19:03

I think there should be stricter rules on who is allowed to have children.

I pity the children brought up in households displaying the venom, vitriol and envy shown on this thread.

This absolutely.

None of the political parties is suggesting changing the law on dogs - not even Reform - so this post is just a load of meaningless hot air.

mathanxiety · 29/10/2025 00:24

SwingTheMonkey · 28/10/2025 23:51

What has that got to do with putting a layer on a single coated, low to the floor dog in winter?

I was addressing the exact quote I included in my post, which did not have any reference to a coat on an elderly or short coated dog.

Fwiw, people where I live put coats on all sorts of short haired dogs, and sturdy little insulated booties too, as we get bitterly cold winters here, with snow and ice, and people spread rock salt on pavements. All fine and dandy imo, if dogs are to be given the exercise they need.

Hellohelga · 29/10/2025 00:27

Spidey66 · 28/10/2025 23:49

Another day, another dog hating thread.

yawns.

Agreed so tedious

Dog lovers are happier and healthier than dog haters. We have a better sense of humour and get laid way more too.

Mrsnothingthanks · 29/10/2025 00:28

What I think is awful is when people have dogs but are literally out of the house all day. A dog should not be left alone for more than about four hours at a time. I adore dogs but will never get one as I work.

mathanxiety · 29/10/2025 00:34

CoubousAndTourmaIet · 28/10/2025 23:47

Pack order has been discredited. All of this is very outmoded thinking.

And what is this:

Dog owners have to be very disciplined about their interactions with and treatment of the dog if the dog is to be happy.

supposed to mean?

It means you don't treat your dog as a blank screen onto which you project your needs, your dog listens to and obeys your commands because you've trained him to do so and you don't deviate from the expectation that your dog will listen and obey. So that means you keep your dog under your control, requiring constant vigilance on your part. You have to be consistent - self-disciplined, in other words.

The pack order theory has only been discredited if you believe families are democracies where everyone gets an equal say and nobody ever pulls rank. This is an appealing notion only to adherents of gentle parenting who have one or at most two children, one of whom is a baby.

Dogs need to be trained to obey or they become utter nuisances, and that means dogs have to be trained to look to their owner as She Who Must Be Obeyed. Their leader, in other words.

Gruffporcupine · 29/10/2025 05:19

YeOldeGreyhound · 28/10/2025 20:58

Are they doing anything wrong?

The poo absolutely everywhere (even when it's picked up it leaves smears and gets on shoes). The impact on wildlife (for example, nesting birds, dog wee containing harmful chemicals due to flea treatments). The bothering of other people (for example, you can't just have a nice picnic or cup of coffee anymore without someone's dog coming over and disturbing you, even if the dog is perfectly friendly it is a nuisance). The getting under people's feet on narrow paths and so on. With far fewer dogs I don't think this would be an issue but there are so many that it has become an issue. Far fewer people should have dogs