Could there be stricter rules on dog ownership?

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Thinking of getting a dog and came across this article? Could there be stricter rules and regulations on dog ownership?
Many, like the RVC, believe there should be. With so many pet dogs in society – a significant proportion of which have poor social and training skills – many feel there needs to be more interventions to emphasise the importance of responsible dog ownership. We are already seeing more restrictions on dogs in public spaces in the UK. Councils are frequently adopting Public Space Protection Orders, to ban dogs from areas such as public parks, beaches and even car parks.
This is largely as a result of too many people allowing their dogs to foul public spaces and creating tension by walking too many dogs at once. Indeed, in many towns and cities – especially in tourist areas, the numbers of people visiting with a dog has become vastly more noticeable.

you need this explained? Dogs are not human. They have different genes,judgements, behaviour,emotion,learning capacity. Treating a dog like a human is doing the dog (and the human) a disservice because they’re fundamentally different.

How does it do them a disservice?
How is putting a cosy jumper on my elderly greyhound doing her a diservice?

yes @CoffeeLipstickKeys 👍

Keep up. You said what’s so bad treating dog like a human
i answered, duh, they are different .

There could be tighter rules but who will police it? People need to be more responsible in general with their dogs, both in terms of cleaning up after them, managing them and training them. I say that as a dog owner.

Honestly @YeOldeGreyhound , stop treating your dog like a baby! It’s a dog, it doesn’t get cold. Stick her in the garden with some ice to chew on, it’s what she’d prefer!
I think maybe the change of hour has got to some people…I know this thread was started by a bot of some sort, but there are some truly unhinged comments this time around.

What if a dog is shivering

Did you want me to lie? How can I help that 2 huge poodles knocked her over & took the food from her hand? Like I said the gentleman was very apologetic, the dogs had never done it before and to be fair she was only 2, so not hard to knock over. He said my daughter looked like his grand-daughter & the dogs maybe thought it was her. No harm done, we had a wee laugh about it & moved on. The poster asked me if there had been dogs doing anything wrong & there were. Not everyone in the universe has to love dogs & want them roaming free everywhere. I like dogs, but I still support leads in public places.

The doggie mums will rebuke,deny,dismiss any account of a dog misbehaving
Stolen sandwich? No! Lies? Untruth! Must be embellished story
sure, no dog ever did that. No siree

@Dontletthebedbugsbite2 @Tutorpuzzle
Not all of us do put human emotions onto our dogs. I respect my dogs heritage as an outdoor working dog and treat her accordingly. I don't take her in cafes or shops because I know she'd hate it. But not all dogs are the same, just as not all people are the same. I can see both sides. My dog is a mountain dog with a thick coat - she doesn't need a jumper, but a Greyhound does because it lacks the plush undercoat my dog has. My girl could live outdoors in winter but not all dogs can. Some dogs can be trusted to walk off the lead but others, like mine, cannot because they don't understand recall. Mine is never off the lead in a public place.
They're not all the same, they all have different needs.
You can't just chuck every dog and owner into the same pigeonhole and generalise about everything they do. Not all of them are fur babies (mine is decidedly not for starters) but some are. Lap dogs and toy breeds were bred to be just that - they can't herd or hunt or guard so it makes no sense to judge them to the same standards as dogs that can and do.

Where did I say it was untrue or deny it? I did not. All I suggested was that it is a frequent occurrence on dog discussion threads. Do not twist my words.

Of course not - but we were talking generally & I think a lot of the time it comes from a good place with owners, they love their dogs so much & don't necessarily realise some things aren't in their best interests. I think more people love their dogs and are misguided than there are people who just dont care about them.

Yes. I say this as a Staffordshire Bull Terrier owner who is responsible and has worked damn hard to train mine but is sick fed up of out of control doodles & dachshunds with zero recall being allowed to terrorise other on lead dogs.

I believe the majority of owners now do not bother training their dogs anymore/glued to their phones & think everyone else just has to deal with it. I would happily accept paying for a licence/more on lead spaces if it helped change that.

I was trying to be ironic @CoubousAndTourmaIet , I clearly failed 🤣.

I would happily knit a jumper for any dog that wants one! Especially a greyhound.

I don’t really understand how it would be enforced, like is it just new pet owners or existing owners too? Cause I can’t imagine the government doing anything about someone’s badly behaved 14 year old poodle. So the issues you mention will never be fully addressed

It’s the dog fouling and letting them urinate against people’s posts etc that gets me. We need dog wardens because it’s just shit smeared everywhere.

I don't disagree. I dislike the idea of dogs (apart from assistance dogs of course) being dragged around shopping centres. Slippery floors, bright lights, strong smells and that level of noise is not natural or healthy for most dogs, particularly the larger breeds.
I think for me, loving my dog is tied in with trying to see things from her perspective. It horrifies me the number of people now who buy a puppy purely because it looks cute, but give absolutely no consideration to whether the breed instincts are going to suit their lifestyle.
So I think in many ways I can see both sides of this debate.

I would rather have rules around who can have children.

Any fuckwit can own a dog.

The same fuckwits can also have children.

I'd much rather be sitting beside a spaniel than a screaming toddler in my local cafe.

Sorry 😳 I do this all the time. Socially anxious and awkward 🙄I'm much better at understanding dogs than people, that much is clear 😬

Me too, @CoubousAndTourmaIet , me too…🤣

Local environment workers/street cleaners. Its a swab sample taken from the poo tested in a lab. Police can also request dog documents/dna cert at random. They are very rigid with animals like dogs coming over the border so it's easier to contain granted.

If everydog is chipped, all this information can held centrally. It would rely on local services carrying chip guns.....folk would soon get the message. £1000 fine if tour dog is found to be unregistered or has no dna on record in Gib.

Could most be like owning a car and registering new keepers etc but all done via the chip. Going forward vets should be able to retain puppies coming in for initial injections if not chipped/DNAd

Which lab? Given the huge amount of dogshit who’s responsible for swabbing, tracing and fining.
I mean, a quick walk through any park with trees you’ll see all the dogshit hanging from trees like sewage baubles
if LA struggle with pot holes, how are they going to swab,trace dogshit and fine irresponsible dog owners

HOUSE! There it is. The prefer dogs to boisterous child poster.

I'm all for vets checking for microchips and microchippibg if one is not located. It should be compulsory and a central scheme to cover the cost (funded by registration fees). Registrations could be cross checked to chips to ensure everyone was paying their share.

There should be there's too many bad owners out there. Now I'm not just talking about the ones who are behave cruelly or leave them in the garden all day with no proper set up or interactions. I'm also talking about the dog owners who don't know how to feed their dog properly, don't exercise their dog the way they need to be, don't bother to properly train their dog (I had a jack russell owner tell me their dog didn't need training because they are too small to do any real damage) and just generally don't look after their dog properly. Then unfortunately it's the dog that pays the price when it all goes wrong.