Why do Labour not get it?

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It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

I would argue that it doesn't harm no one, it harms the people that are imprisoned and have done nothing wrong.

Ultimately there isn't a cheap fix, so housing and educating them within the barracks sounds like a good idea.

Of course we need to work out cost-effective procurement, but it's more likely that whichever government we put in charge of this, they'll excellent at purchasing the most expensive services; and citizens will continue to be appalled at the costs.

I do agree we need to process them quickly and get them into employment- another thing all governments have/are failing to do.

To be honest, that’s irrelevant. Quite frankly I wish I could live in the States. I’d give my right arm to reside in Florida. But unfortunately I don’t have the means or opportunity to move there. And I loathe it here, although granted I’m relatively safe.

I turned up on a boat then I probably wouldn’t make it to the shore. And neither would I expect to.

They would only be in prison until an identity was established. I think that’s both safe and fair for the native population.

No they can leave as they like.

yanbu op 900 or so men, bored and in barracks will come back to bite Labour

I thought Starmer had said what he’d do, smash the gangs.

But not for the asylum seekers themselves, who go through pretty rigorous checks on their arrival in the UK.
Would the same rules apply to children?

What ‘rigorous checks’ out of interest?

When they say barracks, they don't mean rows of mizzen huts, they mean no longer used army accommodation, family homes, single peoples quarters, etc. The problem is much of that accommodation is no longer fit for human habitation so will have to be renovated or they will put up chalet type accommodation. It's not about locking people up or punishing them, it's just removing the problem from the public eye. And moving the protests from a hotel near you to an army base near someone else. All at a huge additional cost, A really great plan!

Immigration is not the same a seeking asylum.

You are comparing apples with pears. But you never know, Trump might start offering refuge to more white people like he did with South Aficans.

You say you wouldn't choose the boat crossing, others however are desperate enough to risk it.

And 900 men together, what could go wrong.

He has made a start in co-operation with Bulgaria.

Where would you propose asylum seekers are housed whilst waiting for their claim to be processed?

Labour do get it and are wilfully ignoring the public position on this. We want the boats stopped and the thousands of unknown men returned to France and then their countries of origin. We don't want them here at all, but if they are, we certainly don't want men being free to wander and attack women.

A bed and 3 meals a day for free is a lot more than many in this country get😡

He did, but until then, we have to house the ones that are already here.

Maybe people who passionately care about the issue can take them in?

You are clearly a very caring person who is showing great sympathy with their plight. I'm sure you will be more than happy to accommodate a few?

Is it working? Channel crossings are going up.

I think this is spot on. The endless cycle of Labour getting in after 2 or 3 terms of the Conservatives, and then fucking the economy in record time, has been the norm for the past 6 decades. It’s very boring.

Oh yes, that's me told again, 'why don't you take them in'

Is it really so bad that I don't like to see asylum seekers being scapegoated and want them to be treated as humans?

They will still get that in army accommodation.

But the improvement in hotel standards have come at great expense to the UK treasury which is unsustainable and can have a negative impact on the local community.
There may be an additional expense in outlay to get these barracks up to standard but it would be an investment in the future secure housing for asylum seekers.
I would imagine that these ex military bases would have great outdoor spaces and recreational facilities that would be a vast improvement from a cramped city hotel. Hope Labour get a move on with it very soon.

I agree with the rest but I don’t think this is a sound idea either.

Well, why won't you?

No evidence of a single gang being smashed. Boats are getting bigger. More crossings than ever before.

What are you on about? Is the PM opening the barracks to welcome more people or to rehouse those currently in hotels?
I'm not sure which conversation you're having 🤔.