Why do Labour not get it?

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It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

Yes something about arresting small boat sellers so people sourced bigger dinghies instead.

Because I dont have the space

Do you think it is right to scapegoat asylum seekers and dehumanise them?

Well let’s hope it’s lesson learnt this time. It will be a long, long time till Labour see power again once this term up.

Who do think will be able to solve the 'small boats' and how?

No space you say?

But of course not.

You are happy for others to pay for your principles.

I have a spare room and I would happily house a woman or child asylum seeker. Less keen on a man but I have considered it.
I did actually get in touch with one of the charities that organise this but I live way way out in the sticks with very little transport and they said most people want to be in a city close to other people who speak their language which honestly I thought was fair enough.

i think housing all asylum seekers in barracks until you’ve worked out who they are/processed their claims is perfectly reasonable, I don’t understand why people are comparing it to prison. It would also help with provision of stuff like English language classes as well as charities and volunteers could go in and run classes and activities fairly easily.

my kids have spent plenty of time in PGL type accommodation and I’ve been hostelling. It’s not great accommodation but it’s fine for temporary situations.

What makes you think army barracks are basic, it will be standard army accommodation (a far cry from what you are envisioning) family homes, single peoples flats, all were very nice accommodation originally, unfortunately a lot have fallen into disrepair and will require renovating before use, more expense.

Of course. And the same pp probably were too.

When someone arrives in the UK and claims asylum (usually at the port of entry or at the Asylum Screening Unit in Croydon), they first have a screening interview with the Home Office.

During this stage:

• Their personal details are taken (name, date of birth, nationality, family members, etc.).
• Biometric data (fingerprints and a digital photo) are taken.

They’re asked how they arrived in the UK and why they’re claiming asylum. -Documents such as passports, ID cards, or travel documents are checked.

• They’re asked whether they’ve claimed asylum in another country (to check under the Dublin III Regulation or post-Brexit arrangements).

The Home Office runs the person’s information through several databases, including UK police and immigration databases, Interpol and Europol databases.

These checks look for:

• Criminal history
• National security risks (e.g., terrorism links)
• Immigration violations or previous asylum claims elsewhere

After the initial checks, asylum seekers are invited to a substantive interview — a detailed discussion with a Home Office caseworker about their asylum claim.

In this interview, the applicant explains:

• Why they left their country
• What risks they face if they return
• Any evidence supporting their claim (documents, witness statements, etc.)

The caseworker assesses credibility, consistency, and supporting evidence

I personally have no problem with using military bases, I've lived on a few myself!
I have a problem with locking them in.

I could put up a tent in my garden if you think that is suitable accommodation.

I see you are not answering my question about not scapegoating and dehumanising asylum seeker

Why do you think our country shouldn't house asylum seekers?

Ok so if someone is here from Afghanistan the Taliban are not providing any of this.

I think they would kick off, in an equally damaging to Labour way. Maybe not the same way, but using the media.

@WhammyammyI wouldn’t cheer yet, it’s not going to be a deterrent

The fact that you disagree with Labour policy doesn’t mean Labour don’t get it. It just means you don’t get Labour. 😂

And they wouldn't need to.

"You are happy for others to pay for your principles"

Are you saying my taxes don't contribute?

Or something else?

The word ‘hotel’ is associated with fancy meals out, special occasions and luxury holidays. The fact that they aren’t very nice and probably due for renovation is irrelevant. ‘Barracks’ sounds far more utilitarian.

I expect Labour are praying for a winter of bad weather in the Channel and then they can claim responsibility for stopping the boats.

There are no comforts in these hotels!
They already get the bare minimum. They are not staying in luxury hotels like people on holiday. Although the hotel owners are making huge profits
It's this type of understanding that has got is where we are.

I don't know.

I know nothing about your tax arrangements.

Standard answer right there 🤣🤣

So if that person is not on any databases, which is entirely possible, they could have committed crimes and there’d be no way to know.

Interpol etc are not aware of all crimes in Afghanistan.

No she means Labour are fucking up again which is an entirely reasonable observation.

Absolutely, in the same way that a DBS check doesn't show whether the person has committed crimes abroad or not.
Is it a perfect system? No. But it's not true to say that we know nothing about them. Plus I'm not sure I'd trust the word of the Taliban anyway!

I thought Labour were against housing asylum seekers in barracks? They were in opposition.

Yup.