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Why do Labour not get it?

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Dacatspjs · 28/10/2025 12:30

It's being reported today that Labour want to stop using hotels and move migrants into barracks. Fine. But when quizzed on it Luke Pollard has suggested this will be more expensive, but the public want the hotels to close at all costs so it will be worth it.

This to me just seems like another step forward for Reform. The public who care about this, care about how much the government is spending on migrant housing. A new policy that costs more isn't going to go anyway towards solving this problem.

I don't know what the solution is, but spending more money getting mothballed barracks up to spec seems ludicrous.

"Asked about whether it would cost more to house migrants at military bases than in hotels, Mr Pollard insisted that 'the public want to see those hotels close'.

But he added: 'We're looking at what's possible and, in some cases, those bases may be a different cost to hotels, but I think we need to reflect the public mood on this asylum hotels need to close.'"

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Badbadbunny · 28/10/2025 13:09

24karatPalamino · 28/10/2025 13:06

It is criminal to pay a smuggler and get on a boat. They might apply for asylum after they get here, but their journey is not a legal one.
Then we don’t know much of their history or where they might have committed crimes…although we do know that some carry out heinous crimes whilst here, which I blame on the government. Detained until we know who you are should be the default.

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Nail on the head. They shouldn't have the right to roam free until their legal immigration status has been determined. Even moreso if they have arrived here via illegal means, i.e. paying human traffickers.

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:09

lazyarse123 · 28/10/2025 13:07

But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out. So instead of maybe 150 migrants wandering near one hotel you're going to have at least 4 or 5 hundred men wandering the areas around these barracks. Unless they are actively contained it's not going to make any difference. Be careful what you wish for springs to mind.
People want them immediately turned away, so do I, but there is no quick answer. The politicians would rather spend time arguing over who's fault it is than actually sort it out.

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But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out

So you'd want them to be imprisoned, even though they have committed no crime? That rings a bell...

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:10

1apenny2apenny · 28/10/2025 13:07

These men should be housed in multi bed rooms/dorms in barracks. They should be made to clean and cook for themselves (under management if course). They all evidently speak English and are keen to work (both I don’t believe, the first I know not to be true) so let them contribute to their own upkeep. The issue with the hotels is that private companies are making a load of money, these hotels are in built up areas and the men all hang around, they are ‘looked’ after having their laundry done and meals cooked.

It needs to be made as unattractive as possible for arrivals. These people should not get more, they should get the basics and should have to wait for any medical and dental treatment, just like we all
do.

What 'more' do you think they get?

MaturingCheeseball · 28/10/2025 13:11

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 12:59

What extra comforts are you thinking of?
You do realise that we are talking about traumatized people fleeing for their lives, not criminals?

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Yeee-eees. Recent case in Bournemouth where the asylum hotel chef was attacked with a knife by a delightful man because the lunch - of his choice - was not yet being served.

This poor man who said he was fleeing Gaddafi turned out to be from Syria and was actually fleeing a girl he had got pregnant whose parents were pretty angry. Oh, and he had several cases of anti-social/violent behaviour in Britain too.

Hellohelga · 28/10/2025 13:11

I think once the renovation is done they will be a cheaper option for housing AS. They are also usually not in town centres so people won’t feel there’s a big migrant community right next door. Although the Inverness one is in town I believe. I think it’s a decent solution for now.

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:12

MaturingCheeseball · 28/10/2025 13:11

Yeee-eees. Recent case in Bournemouth where the asylum hotel chef was attacked with a knife by a delightful man because the lunch - of his choice - was not yet being served.

This poor man who said he was fleeing Gaddafi turned out to be from Syria and was actually fleeing a girl he had got pregnant whose parents were pretty angry. Oh, and he had several cases of anti-social/violent behaviour in Britain too.

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Fleeing Gaddafi? Do you have a link to this recent case, please?

MaturingCheeseball · 28/10/2025 13:13

Well exactly - his script was a bit on the dodgy side.

MaturingCheeseball · 28/10/2025 13:14

It’s in the Bournemouth Echo.

Bumblebee72 · 28/10/2025 13:14

LadyKenya · 28/10/2025 12:36

Where did you get the idea that those hotels are 'cushy'?

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Plenty of them used to be used by people choosing them for holidays so they can't be that bad.

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:15

MaturingCheeseball · 28/10/2025 13:13

Well exactly - his script was a bit on the dodgy side.

Well presumably the HO didn't believe him.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:15

https://gmiau.org/assets/uploads/2025/10/Greater-Manchester-Asylum-Hotels-Group-Our-response-to-the-protests-outside-hotels-A4.pdf

The above is a letter written by a group of asylum seekers to the protesters outside their hotel.

Whammyammy · 28/10/2025 13:16

MaturingCheeseball · 28/10/2025 13:11

Yeee-eees. Recent case in Bournemouth where the asylum hotel chef was attacked with a knife by a delightful man because the lunch - of his choice - was not yet being served.

This poor man who said he was fleeing Gaddafi turned out to be from Syria and was actually fleeing a girl he had got pregnant whose parents were pretty angry. Oh, and he had several cases of anti-social/violent behaviour in Britain too.

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Or that poor girl that got stabbed with a screw driver over biscuits....

lazyarse123 · 28/10/2025 13:16

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:09

But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out

So you'd want them to be imprisoned, even though they have committed no crime? That rings a bell...

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Yes until they've been processed. Why not? They claim they want safety and that's exactly what they'll get. Not freedom to assault teenagers and intimidate local residents. I know they don't all do that but enough do.
Ask Rhiannons family what they want to happen.

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:16

Badbadbunny · 28/10/2025 13:09

Nail on the head. They shouldn't have the right to roam free until their legal immigration status has been determined. Even moreso if they have arrived here via illegal means, i.e. paying human traffickers.

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Unfortunately nobody wants to hear this.

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:19

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:09

But apparently they're not going to be confined to barracks. Some human rights shit being trotted out

So you'd want them to be imprisoned, even though they have committed no crime? That rings a bell...

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Oh for God’s sake, we don’t know who these people are!!!

It’s not being ‘racist’ or anything akin to Nazi Germany, it’s applying some bloody common sense!!

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:19

Oh for God’s sake, we don’t know who these people are!!!

It’s not being ‘racist’ or anything akin to Nazi Germany, it’s applying some bloody common sense!!

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Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:20

BrightSpark10 · 28/10/2025 13:04

Do you travel? Have you ever been to Africa?
If not, I strongly recommend watching some travel documentaries or YouTube channels featuring people backpacking through Africa. These videos often show people live for real, not the touristy, developed parts.
The man who was recently sentenced is from Ethiopia. Go online and take a look at how people live there not in the capital, but in the small, remote villages.

The accommodation in the UK might not seem to us as luxurious by European standards, but for many people crossing, such hotels represent incredible comfort. For them basics such as having clean, warm water to wash with whenever you want and for how long you want, regular meals, and even the allowance they get, all provided for free. From their perspective, that’s not hardship at all it’s a remarkably comfortable situation.

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Absolutely. I find posts like this one laughable. And they have the cheek to say we're the ones being manipulated! Frankly I couldn't care less that the nice fluffy, feather pillows have been removed and the spa has been shut - they're still offering a warm bed, washing facilities and hot meals, things our homeless don't receive. The only people being played are the lefty liberals and their luxury politics.

patooties · 28/10/2025 13:21

aslkdfjh · 28/10/2025 12:35

The hotels are not ‘cushy’ but currently the public appears to falling for the bullshit that asylum seekers are living it up in 4* hotels with all the trappings.

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sunflower1022 · 28/10/2025 13:22

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

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I can’t argue with this level of stupidity, I really can’t.

Sorry, I have to leave this thread because I am so angry and if I were to write what I want to write I’d get banned.

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:22

ForestBath · 28/10/2025 13:20

Absolutely. I find posts like this one laughable. And they have the cheek to say we're the ones being manipulated! Frankly I couldn't care less that the nice fluffy, feather pillows have been removed and the spa has been shut - they're still offering a warm bed, washing facilities and hot meals, things our homeless don't receive. The only people being played are the lefty liberals and their luxury politics.

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'Our homeless' are not prevented by law from working and supporting themselves, asylum seekers are.
That's the difference.

lazyarse123 · 28/10/2025 13:24

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

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Don't know about your neighbours but mine aren't following children round near schools and yes that happens it happened to my friends 14 year old granddaughter. She was terrified and fortunately a neighbour saw him and escorted her home.

24karatPalamino · 28/10/2025 13:26

CorneliaCupp · 28/10/2025 13:20

Do you know the criminal histories and backgrounds of your neighbours? Should they be locked up a s well?

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Can’t do anything about those can we. But sometimes (such as in the case of asylum seekers) we should have a choice.

PandoraSocks · 28/10/2025 13:26

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2025 13:17

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Thanks. That makes a lot more sense. It says he was fleeing Libya because his family was pro-Gaddafi, rather than he was fleeing Gaddafi as per pp.

"Zouari came to the UK illegally in 2022 from Libya, where he said he faced a lot of political trouble, particularly because his family were pro-Gaddafi - the brutal totalitarian former leader who committed serious human rights violations and supported terrorism"

All in all, he sounds a right charmer.

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