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To find it almost impossible to move from being friendly with people to being friends?

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RessicaJabbit · 27/10/2025 09:41

So, I always feel like people are friendly with me, but we're not friends.

They'll stop and chat etc at school drop off, around village, at work etc and all that

It's really hard when there's people you know only met a few months ago or whatever,and they're merrily chatting about how they had great fun at x place together last night, or the group of colleagues all went to a bar the other night, mums at the school,who happily discuss going for a coffee after drop off in front of me.

I have tried inviting people to events/pub/walks whatever, with kids in tow if they want a distraction etc but generally they don't respond or come along. I have done this in the Year 1 group chat, face to face etc. other people invite the larger group,and we go along and then discover that oh so and so are going to their house after to play etc.

It makes me a bit sad, my SIL for example, has a whole host of friends they're always going over each others, on holidays, days out etc. but if we invite them out or over, they're always busy etc. a new colleague joined in October and already is invited out on nights out etc...

Now yes, I get it... the problem must be me ... But I don't know what it is that makes me not really have friends.

OP posts:
LastHurrahs · 28/10/2025 14:09

Pawridge · 28/10/2025 12:12

Not at all. I do get what you mean and I’m really trying to reflect lately. It’s hard as I’ve been doing this my whole life but I want to try and break the habit. I can see how I probably come across in the ways you listed and why that would put people off.

It sounds stupid but I don’t think I ever considered how it could be perceived negatively to others. I thought of it as something that only affected me (eg in that I’d end up in ridiculous situations because I couldn’t say no).

Don't beat yourself up -- I was raised by a chronic people-pleaser, and it takes serious work to break yourself of ingrained habits. But it immeasurably improves your life, partly by clearing the way for genuine friendships that don't rely on trading services for a relationship.

swingingbytheseat · 28/10/2025 14:47

dottieautie · 28/10/2025 12:09

I find the idea people struggling looking for friends see groups of potential friends as a homogenous mass really insulting. We have our preferences, we will pick and choose who works for us but we also don’t discriminate in who we approach in the early days. We’re so aware of how it feels to be left out that we don’t want to be responsible for others feeling that way by being inclusive. That such an approach is a turn off for some means they’re not people i’d ever want to be friends with in the first place. That being inclusive or not as selective as others makes someone undesirable is an indictment on society and how little we value difference others. Do better!

it’s usually coming from a very painful position , but I also know what you mean

LastHurrahs · 28/10/2025 14:57

RessicaJabbit · 28/10/2025 12:25

Just to be clear, I am actually pleased that people have made good friends from the group I started. There's a tendancy for the demographic (basically "slightly nerdy guys") to be a bit excluded. So it's great to hear that they make friends. A few times a couple of people have thanked me privately saying it's the first time they've had friends. One couple were very introverted and made some good friends that they spend time with doing their hobby and other stuff. Which is marvellous and partly why the group was formed :)

Well, that sounds like a genuine achievement, but was that your intention when you started the group, to provide a friendship springboard for nerdy male boardgame players? It's just that in a previous post you note that they often befriend one another outside of the group, but not you -- and it sounded as though you would like to see them outside the regular meetings and are a bit hurt that this doesn't seem to occur to them?

Though it occurred to me that a group which has as its primary demographic people you describe as 'slightly nerdy guys' who have often never previously had any friends at all isn't going to necessarily think of friendships in the same way that people outside that demographic would. So maybe inviting you just isn't on their radar? Because they're not very practised at friendships or invitations?

The other thing that comes to mind is something that would never have occurred to me as an issue until I joined Mn, and discovered that sizeable numbers of people think male-female friendships are impossible/ that one person is always wanting to put the moves on the other one/incompatible with being in a committed relationship/marriage and that meeting an opposite-sex friend for a drink or to see a film is a 'date'.

I stress that this is not my view, or indeed my experience with longterm male friends, but it seems to be a majority view on Mn. It just struck me that the guy you got talking about boardgames to after a playdate was a man, and that the majority of your boardgame group are men, from what you say. Is it possible that the playdate dad thought you were putting the moves on him? Is it possible the nerdy guys just don't think of women as potential friends?

Friendlygingercat · 28/10/2025 15:14

Perhaps the OP is coming across as a bit desperate to some of these school mums. School mums are notorious for their cliques. If you see that some of them are going to the park or a coffee why not just tag on? You dont need to be sepecifically invited to go and sit in a park or a coffee bar.

This happened to me several times at uni when I was a mature student and therefore quite a lot older than most of those on my undergrad course. We would go for a coffee and chat after a lecture or tutorial. I had my own flat and several times invited fellow students round for a meal but they always backed off. One actually said she "did not want to get too involved" as though I was planning to entice her into something dubious. I am a straight female so no ulterior motives other than friendship. Subsequently I began to socialise with the various lecturers whose subjects and interests fascinated me. One eventually became my Ph.D supervisor.

Looking back young people in the early 20s dont really want to socialise with someone the same age as their mum! It was probably nothing personal and just a generational thing. Whereas I was the same age range as most of the lecturers and always spoke to them as if we were equals.

RessicaJabbit · 28/10/2025 15:55

" If you see that some of them are going to the park or a coffee why not just tag on? You don't need to be specifically invited to go and sit in a park or a coffee bar."

No. But I'd be sitting in my own. I know from experience I won't be invited to join them. Even if I pop over a d say "hi! How are you?" They'll chat for a bit. I suppose I could be even more forward and just say "can I join you".

But, no doubt that would look as though i was "coming across a bit desperate"? :/

OP posts:
minipie · 28/10/2025 16:02

I do the “mind if I join you” thing. Everyone always says yes. It doesn’t suddenly blossom into a friendship. But if it happens several times, and you get on, have a good chat, it’s then a step towards saying “fancy a coffee Friday morning”.

My10centsworth · 28/10/2025 17:41

From the other side of the argument-I like going to new places and joining groups etc but I do it for me. I have great friends already - who I don't see enough already. And I don't want or need anymore. I should point out that I am in my late 40s so this might be why. I do find it hard if people try to pressurise me into including them in stuff or tagging along when I am not interested in them. Sorry if that is brutal but that is how I feel.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 28/10/2025 17:53

@RessicaJabbit , I very much doubt it’s you. Once people have an established adult life they tend to have established friends, they simply don’t really need any more.
All you can do is to be friendly, chat and see if there are people who share an interest with you; that sometimes helps. Otherwise try inviting a group which may be a bit less intense for people, you could try and get together a group for a sponsored activity to raise funds for something the school needs for instance.
Good luck!

Neurodiversitydoctor · 28/10/2025 17:55

RessicaJabbit · 28/10/2025 15:55

" If you see that some of them are going to the park or a coffee why not just tag on? You don't need to be specifically invited to go and sit in a park or a coffee bar."

No. But I'd be sitting in my own. I know from experience I won't be invited to join them. Even if I pop over a d say "hi! How are you?" They'll chat for a bit. I suppose I could be even more forward and just say "can I join you".

But, no doubt that would look as though i was "coming across a bit desperate"? :/

In this situation I think I'd say " are we going for coffee?" or even " you coming for coffee?" or ' whose coming for coffee?" as in " who fancies going for a drink after work on Thursday?" general and inclusive. I think if someone came up to me and started talking I would sort of expect them to pull up a char. But as I said OP it will take 20 of those coffees ( on average) to make it in to the inner circle, so assuming 1 coffee date a week about 6 months.

FastTurtle · 28/10/2025 17:57

Once I get chatty with someone I wait and see if they seek me out a few times to talk to and if that is so then I arrange a meet up or we mutually arrange meet at an event that is being held.
So for example when my DC were at school I kept bumping into the same lady on my way to school and we always had loads to talk about. Then we were both at a party and talked to each way more than anyone else. After that I knew we definitely liked each other and we started making arrangements to do activities together and not just bump into each other walking to school.
Friendships have developed in similar ways at various gyms I’ve been members of too.

SandyDunesCoffeeShack · 28/10/2025 17:58

Are you a deep thinker, an introvert and someone who loves intense deep conversations rather than vain interactions

Neurodiversitydoctor · 28/10/2025 17:59

The circles

To find it almost impossible to move from being friendly with people to being friends?
FastTurtle · 28/10/2025 18:03

RessicaJabbit · 28/10/2025 10:26

Okay

So I mentioned I run a board game club earlier. So it's not monopoly and sscrabble. It's more games like Catan, 7 Wonders etc
My DD had been to a little friends house to play, I went to collect them and popped inside whilst the kids finished off. I noticed they had a particular board game in their kitchen table. I remarked that I love that game, and how it was a special edition of it (Sushi Go Party) and we had a little chat about games etc, the husband enthusiastically runs upstairs and brings a couple more to show me. We had a good chat and I said, something along the lines of "oh perhaps one day you might like to join our games club? They love that game". And they nodded along.

A few days later I sent them a message saying "in case you were interested in joining us it's At this time, this day this place. Or maybe we can get together one day, the kids can play and we could game"

Radio silence. Fine, understand that you can't always just go out of an evening and it might not work for them. But there was zero response.

Mentioned it again briefly when they collected their DD another time, and the girls were playing another boardgame at ours... Saying it would be lovely to get together to play a game.

Have we ever played board games together? No. Have they ever been to club? No. Did they even respond to the invitations? No..

We have exactly the same taste in board games, have kids that get on, can chit chat at school gates...

I get it that they might be busy and it's difficult to find time etc.
So I assume that they're not interested in pursuing that avenue. So we're friendly. The kids play with each other etc no worries.

Repeat with other people for the last 20 years.

Edited

I think you are inviting people to things too soon. If that was me I would have done a few more play dates, chatted to the parents a bit more, maybe sent a couple of texts with funny or useful things about the games. Then gone from there and see if you have a spark or is it just a shared interest in a game which may not be enough to be friends.

swingingbytheseat · 28/10/2025 19:07

This is one of best things I’ve ever read:

An existential guide to making friends
author: the shadower archive

The first thing you need to know is that friendship is not natural. If you were natural you would be a moss. Moss doesn’t have friends. Moss just spreads, cold and damp and indifferent, and sometimes another moss spreads nearby, and together they make a bog, and then the bog swallows a horse. But you, unfortunately, are not a moss. You are a person, and people are creatures that rot if they are alone. To be human is to be an animal that needs witnesses. Someone has to see you eating cereal. Someone has to be there when you tell a bad joke. Otherwise you start twitching in public, you start growling in the supermarket. You start developing hobbies. This is the horror we call solitude.
But making friends - have you tried it? Horrible stuff. It’s like applying for a job, except the application process is permanent and the job doesn’t exist. “So what do you do?” you ask. “What music do you like?” you say. All this hideous bureaucracy of the self, filling in forms with little fragments of personality so you can be filed correctly in someone else’s head. And half the time they reject the application. They ghost you. They say “we should hang out sometime” which, in the language of friendship, means “I hope you die.”
The philosophers didn’t make it easier.
Aristotle: friends are either useful, pleasant, or virtuous. What he didn’t say is that every friend eventually becomes useless, boring, and morally compromised.
Montaigne: “Because it was he, because it was I.” Which is sweet, but also tautological. It means “my friend is my friend because they are my friend,” which is the sort of logic you expect from a dog.
Nietzsche: friends should be arrows you fire into the future, meant to wound you, to test you, to make you stronger. Lovely. Except most of us are just happy if someone answers our texts.
Meanwhile, every self-help book tells you to “just be yourself.” But if you were yourself you wouldn’t need friends. “Yourself” is the exact person who sits alone at 2am scrolling through group photos of people who did not invite you. Yourself is unbearable. Yourself is the reason you need to invent a second self, and then a third, and send those versions out into the world, each of them a trial balloon, a mask, a ghoul, to see which one gets accepted. Friendship is basically the black market trade of masks. You offer one of yours, they offer one of theirs, and if the exchange goes well, you keep bartering until you’ve forgotten what your original face looked like.
Anyway, here is your first existential tip: friendship is impossible, and therefore it must be done. If it were possible, it wouldn’t matter. Only impossibilities have meaning. Only impossibilities are worth doing.
Alright, if that doesn’t quite itch the scratch, then, here are some non-tips as well - blunt instruments disguised as flowers. Use what works; bury the rest in the garden and see if anything grows…
Go where hands do things.
Bars are museums of speech; workshops are factories of friendship. Put your body where objects resist you. Clay classes, community gardens, picket lines, choir practice, soup kitchens, a Dungeons & Dragons table where the dungeon master is obviously power-mad: anywhere the third thing (soil, song, soup, dice) can stand between you and the other person like a kindly chaperone. You cannot stare each other into closeness; you can only arrive there while both of you are staring at something else and accidentally become co-conspirators.
Make a specific, stupid plan.
“Let’s hang sometime” is the Esperanto of the damned. Try: “Tuesday, 7:15, the dumpling place that smells like a wet dog.” Offer a finite window. Promise one drink, one loop of the park, one hour of mutual complaint. The soul does not open by decree; it opens under the protection of an end-time.
Bring an offering.
A tangerine. A photocopied poem. A cursed USB stick containing Romanian disco. The gift says: I have been somewhere else and thought of you. Do not overthink the gift. The point is not value; it is proof of motion.
Ask a small favour.
Not money, not a kidney. “Can you watch my bike while I wee?” The Ben-Franklin effect, yes, but gentler: allow someone to rehearse caring for you on a miniature scale. If they do it well, escalate: “Help me move a sofa,” “teach me this chord,” “come with me to the dentist so I don’t run away.”
Tolerate untelevised time.
A friendship is mostly b-roll. Errands, waiting for buses, being wrong about directions together. If every meeting requires a highlight, you’re dating the spectacle, not the person. Share a silence without leaping to fill it with facts about magnesium. If you can be boring together you can be alive together.
Practice asymmetry without accounting.
You will text first, often. Later they will. Then you again. If you keep a ledger, you are an auditor, not a friend. The universe does not balance; the kindness must.
Be a small mirror, not a full-length one.
Reflect a little. Don’t cosplay them. Keep your colours. Friends do not fuse; they braid. Allow difference to survive contact: their football; your medieval heresies; their tarot; your taxidermy. The aim is not to be two halves of one person but two complete people orbiting a third thing that neither of you owns.
Speak plainly when hurt; briefly when angry.
A clean wound heals; a theatrical wound becomes a career. Name the specific sin, propose the small repair, and do not forward the minutes to the group chat. Apologies should be nouns (“I was cruel”), not weather reports (“things were said”).
Do not interview; notice.
The questionnaire kills warm-blooded animals. Come on! Instead: observe how they treat the waiter, how they talk about people who are absent, whether they slide their chair back when a toddler wobbles past. You are selecting a co-witness for the apocalypse. Choose for gentleness.
Let the phone be a bridge, not a house.
DM to schedule the walk. Send the photo of the dog. Do not live inside the thread like a tapeworm. The group chat is a mulch heap: throw scraps in, grow pumpkins out here.
Offer a first vulnerability, not a flood.
One true sentence: “I hate parties because I turn into a statue.” See if they set a coat around that sentence. If they do, the next sentence may be larger. Never trauma-dump as a hello; never demand caretaking as proof.
Be the one who convenes.
Everyone is tired. Everyone secretly wants someone else to ring the bell. Host the cheap thing. Name the time and end. Say, “door is soft; leave when you must.” Put crisps in a bowl. Friendship is logistics performed tenderly.
Lose some on purpose.
You’ll misjudge. They’ll misjudge you. Sometimes the chemical experiment yields a little smoke and a brown crust in the beaker. Resist the autopsy. Wish them a gentle life and walk on. Compost the disappointment; it will grow something improbable.
Learn to be findable.
This is the hardest. Being findable means living somewhere in public: a regular table, a habitual lane, a community noticeboard with your handwriting on it. It means answering invitations with an answer, not a fog. It means having a door that opens.
Remember the metaphysics.
A friend is not a contact, not a cure, not an escape room partner. A friend is the person who proves you exist when your own gaze slips. A friend is the witness at the small trial of every day. Together you invent a jurisdiction that can overrule the world.
And if you need one final mechanism, something idiotic and immediate, take this: open your phone and text the most nearly-friend person you have. Not the perfect one; the adjacent one. Type: “Walk at 6:40? Bring the stupid hat.” Send before your cowardice wakes up.
The rest is repetition, gentle and stubborn. The rest is tending. You are not moss; you are an animal that rots alone. Make the bog with others. Save the horse.
The Friend At The End Of The World
Start with a simple admission: every friend you’ve ever had has wronged you. Not in the grand opera ways - no poisoned goblets, no monologues under the thunder. It’s smaller, meaner, bureaucratic. They drift. They acquire a dog with a complicated gut. They move to a suburb called Something-Heath where the last bus leaves at 9:12. They reply “haha amazing” to your most elegant despair. They go off gluten and then become gluten. Even the ones who stay close eventually betray you by dying. And if they don’t, you’ll betray them first. This is the contract hidden in the handshake. That’s the horror of it. That’s the miracle of it.
Friendship was never supposed to be a bilateral treaty anyway. It’s a cultic rite conducted in the ruins of the self where, briefly, the candles catch. If you insist on keeping score - “I texted last,” “I bought rounds,” “I provided crucial banter in Q4” -the bookkeepers of Hell will love you; they worship exactitude. But the rest of us are trying, in grubby, hopeless ways, to kneel before something larger that sometimes borrows a human shape.
So here is the stupid heresy: each particular friend is an emissary. A courier for the Infinite Friend. You’ve met them. You keep meeting them. They arrive disguised as a barista who treats you like a Victorian convalescent. As the flatmate who wordlessly slides a plate of eggs under your door when your brain has become a wasp factory. As the stranger in the smoking area who tells you, in a voice like a kettle unplugging itself, the one sentence you needed to remain alive for another week. That’s not them. That’s the Infinite Friend poking a paw through the membrane of history.
People have tried to give you language for this. Aristotle muttered something about another self, and then the Romans turned it into Latin and the Church put it in a chalice and everyone pretended to understand. Augustine fell apart over a boyhood companion; to patch the hole he invented a God made entirely of longing. Nietzsche, the petulant sunbeam, begged for the friend who would force him to grow fangs. All of them circling the same unhousebroken animal: friendship is not the warm bath of recognition; it is the safe-cracking of reality. Two idiots put their ears to the vault door of the world and whisper, “On three.” Click.
How to Recognise the Infinite Friend (Field Notes)
—>They do not scale. If a relationship comes with a Patreon tier list, it’s not friendship, it’s artisanal loneliness in monthly installments.
—?They insult you at exactly the right time. Not cruelty: calibration. “You’ve become a spreadsheet,” they say, and you laugh because your breath smells like pivot tables.
—<Your bodies invent new grammar. The handshake becomes an aria. The eye-roll becomes Eucharist. One day you catch yourselves talking in a language that never existed and both understand every word.
—)They are a bad influence in a strangely wholesome way. You stay out too late and wake up wanting to apply for a library card.
—(They vanish. Then the universe quietly rearranges itself to put them back in front of you at the bakery you never go to, holding the one croissant that looks like a fossilised ear.
If none of this happens, the Infinite Friend still visited - you just refused hospitality. They don’t mind. They are patient like sediment.

What Friendship Wants From You (Spoiler: Your Face)
Friendship wants your face taken off and hung on the wall briefly, to air out. It wants you de-furnished. You cannot bring the entire IKEA of self: the self-care ottoman, the trauma console, the gallery wall of takes. The Infinite Friend hates storage. They prefer you with pockets turned out, lint offered as tribute: “Here are my ridiculous thoughts; they keep multiplying in the night.”
This is not vulnerability marketing; real tenderness is unbeautiful. It’s you crying the way a tap malfunctions. It’s them handing you a napkin that already has a stain because they used it for the same purpose ten minutes ago. It’s both of you knowing the other is unbearable and bearing, because bearing is the sacrament.
The Liturgies
—>Pilgrimage: Walk. Farther than comfort requires. Into the ugly part of town where the brickwork is acne and the kebab shops hoard fluorescent light. Talk until your feet forget who owns them. All theology of friendship is podiatric.
—<The Small Feast: No charcuterie permitted; meat must be humble and plural. Beans count. Pasta counts. Bread counts in every language. You eat to prove to the world you are still taking its materials and turning them into you.
—?Shared Cowardice: Run away together - from a party, from a responsibility, from a grief for one hour. Cowardice in company transubstantiates into mercy.
—)The Errand: Go with them to buy a bin. Spend forty minutes deciding between pedal and swing-top. You are not choosing a waste receptacle; you are choosing a future in which your boredom is apprenticed to a witness.
Enemies of Friendship
Self-optimization. Professional networking. Status anxiety disguised as taste. The algorithm’s sweet narcotic drip that replaces “we” with “for you.” The contemporary delusion that intimacy must be hygienic, that it should smell faintly of eucalyptus and good lighting. Friendship is not spa water. It is the puddle you step in together and then name.
Most dangerous of all: Narrative. The minute you decide what this friendship is, you have given it a plot arc, which is simply a schedule for death. Let it resist articulation. Let it be the thing that only explains itself while it is happening, and even then only in a dialect the air forgets at once.
Advanced Practice: The Catabasis (Going Down)
At some stage you will have to take your friend into the underworld. This is standard. Do not prepare speeches. Bring oranges, headphones, and an uncharged phone (a devotional object). Sit with them while the lift of their brain remains inconveniently stuck between floors. Say very little. Do not tidy. Make a fort out of blankets if the gods permit. Explain, falsely and correctly, that nothing is ruined. Most people cannot be rescued; they can be accompanied. That is rescue enough.
When it is your turn to go under, let them carry your name like a match cupped against wind. Yes, they will see the worms in your machinery. Yes, they will come back with a stray dog and a ridiculous plan. Accept both. This is medicine.
The Metaphysics (Forgive Me)
Every friendship is a rehearsal for the final conversation the universe wants to have with you. We mistake it for preference - “we like the same obscure synth album,” “we hate the same mayor” - but that’s just handholds on the cliff. The thing itself is a brief ceasefire in the war between subject and object. For a second the world stops being “out there,” you stop being “in here,” and the border checkpoint falls asleep. Two citizens of nowhere look at each other and each becomes borderless. This is illegal in most jurisdictions.
You can be sainthood-level at this and still lose them to time. The Infinite Friend will not apologise. They are a monarch with a pocketful of seasons; they keep swapping summer and winter like coins and do not see the problem. What you get instead is the residue: the way certain streets brighten like a dashboard when you walk them alone, the phantom laugh that arrives before the joke, the taste of a drink that only exists in the bar where you were both nineteen forever. Memory is not faithfulness; it’s the thing friendship leaves to keep you from dying of sobriety.
Coda: Instructions For After
When it ends - and it always ends, even if only because one of you leaves the room and never comes back - perform the rite of small gratitude. Keep the receipt with their handwriting on it. Learn the stupid salad they made better than you. Retire a joke like a jersey. Do not go looking for replacements; understudies are for musicals and grief is not a production. Open your window. The Infinite Friend will pass again, badly disguised as someone who appears to be intolerable. Let them in. Make tea. Hide the good biscuits. Fail, and give them the good biscuits.
If you need a rule, take this one: honour the interruptions. Friendship is an interruption of yourself by the world and of the world by yourself. If nothing interrupts you, you are not living; you are a screensaver. Go be interrupted. Go be available to be changed. The door is heavy, but it’s on your side of the hinge.
And when your friends finally betray you by prospering, or disappointing you by healing, or abandoning you by not dying on schedule, sit on a bench and bless them with a curse that works in reverse: May you be spared the version of me that needed you to keep being exactly who you were. Then stand up. Walk to the shop that sells nothing you need. Look at everything like it might suddenly speak. It will. It does. It already has.

Peachpoodle · 28/10/2025 19:19

I have seen a couple of people mention the possibility of neurodivergence - I don't want to be accused of being that poster but is it something you've ever considered?

I'm autistic and really struggle to make friendships. I look on in envy at other people I know having friends over for dinner or going out for drinks and knowing I have pretty much no one I can do that with. I don't know the reason but I assume it's something about the way I come across / my communication skills. Sometimes I talk too much, I don't do eye contact, I was told during assessment that my intonation is quite flat and I'm limited in facial expressions. I'm guessing I give off a vibe that is off putting to most neurotypicals 🙈

RessicaJabbit · 28/10/2025 19:34

FastTurtle · 28/10/2025 18:03

I think you are inviting people to things too soon. If that was me I would have done a few more play dates, chatted to the parents a bit more, maybe sent a couple of texts with funny or useful things about the games. Then gone from there and see if you have a spark or is it just a shared interest in a game which may not be enough to be friends.

Edited

This was after around 5 playdates, and knowing them for around 15 months...

OP posts:
FastTurtle · 28/10/2025 19:51

RessicaJabbit · 28/10/2025 19:34

This was after around 5 playdates, and knowing them for around 15 months...

Oh ok, did you feel you clicked with them, I think the start of a friendship needs to be more than a shared interest?

I think you have been unlucky and haven’t found your people yet. Have you ever tried Meet Up?

I think a lot of people are at capacity with friends, they have a few really good friends and then are happy with friendly chats with others.

When you chat to people do you ask them questions and talk about a third of the time, I find this helps as well as lots of eye contact and nodding etc?

ThatWildHedgehog · 04/04/2026 21:38

RessicaJabbit · 27/10/2025 09:41

So, I always feel like people are friendly with me, but we're not friends.

They'll stop and chat etc at school drop off, around village, at work etc and all that

It's really hard when there's people you know only met a few months ago or whatever,and they're merrily chatting about how they had great fun at x place together last night, or the group of colleagues all went to a bar the other night, mums at the school,who happily discuss going for a coffee after drop off in front of me.

I have tried inviting people to events/pub/walks whatever, with kids in tow if they want a distraction etc but generally they don't respond or come along. I have done this in the Year 1 group chat, face to face etc. other people invite the larger group,and we go along and then discover that oh so and so are going to their house after to play etc.

It makes me a bit sad, my SIL for example, has a whole host of friends they're always going over each others, on holidays, days out etc. but if we invite them out or over, they're always busy etc. a new colleague joined in October and already is invited out on nights out etc...

Now yes, I get it... the problem must be me ... But I don't know what it is that makes me not really have friends.

I literally could have wrote this word for word myself, im going through this situation at the moment & its getting me so down 😪 every where I turn aswell seems to be people in friendship groups or one or two friends out for a walk together, or a coffee together, or a group of girls out for dinner & drinks ... even going out with my young kids, il see other mums out with other mums friends.

RessicaJabbit · 04/04/2026 22:17

Well you'll all be thrilled to know that I haven't cracked a single nut.... Not a single person to go to coffee with. Not a single invitation out anywhere. Not a single response to invitations to places.

Meanwhile they (colleagues, school mums, club members etc) merrily meet up and organise stuff between themselves and have lovely holidays, evenings out, coffees, knit and natters.

I sit quietly a few tables away and drink my coffee and read my book. I go to the theatre on my own. I occasionally bump into people I know at these places,and they still say hello and briefly chat, and then carry on. One time, they saw someone else they knew and said hello and invited them to join them at the bar after.

Nevermind. I've come to terms with it (I think?!)

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swingingbytheseat · 05/04/2026 00:11

People have to see an ‘in’..
you sound pretty self-contained Op
I’m guessing that no one would realise you felt like this..?

PennyRest · 05/04/2026 01:18

I’m the same OP. I wonder if either of us would realise it about each other, if we met?

Inthenameoflove · 05/04/2026 01:28

Were you bullied at school? I think for me I went through a huge season of life where I felt like you do. Got some counselling. Made a couple of good friends. Now I don’t feel like I ‘need’ any more people, perversely people seem to want to be friends more.

4timesthefun · 05/04/2026 02:50

OP, I think you might be me! I have a couple of close friends I catch up with when we happen to travel near that person’s area (both friends moved far away), but otherwise I’ve just never been able to crack the code, and I have no idea why. When people talk about their plans and they are off on holidays/dinners/whatever with friends, it seems quite foreign to me.
I have no idea what the barrier is. I don’t know if this applies to you, but have you ever heard the term ‘if you need something done, ask a busy person’? I’ve broadly observed that most of the people I know with a lot of friends etc and a busy social life also seem to have a decent family network. I don’t know if there is something about missing that network that has an underlying impact, but it seems to be the main difference I observe.

LastHurrahs · 05/04/2026 06:02

4timesthefun · 05/04/2026 02:50

OP, I think you might be me! I have a couple of close friends I catch up with when we happen to travel near that person’s area (both friends moved far away), but otherwise I’ve just never been able to crack the code, and I have no idea why. When people talk about their plans and they are off on holidays/dinners/whatever with friends, it seems quite foreign to me.
I have no idea what the barrier is. I don’t know if this applies to you, but have you ever heard the term ‘if you need something done, ask a busy person’? I’ve broadly observed that most of the people I know with a lot of friends etc and a busy social life also seem to have a decent family network. I don’t know if there is something about missing that network that has an underlying impact, but it seems to be the main difference I observe.

I don’t think that’s true in my experience, though. The vast majority of my friends live in a different country to their families so don’t see a lot of them, and their real heartland on a day to day basis is their friendships, as well as spouse/children if they have them.

RessicaJabbit · 05/04/2026 08:13

swingingbytheseat · 05/04/2026 00:11

People have to see an ‘in’..
you sound pretty self-contained Op
I’m guessing that no one would realise you felt like this..?

I just gave up trying to make friends tbh.

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