To think Toby Carvery is working class ?

[JoanneTeresa]

I went this week and was looking around at the likely demographic

I’m not from the UK so I thought Toby Carvery was a person. This thread was not what I expected. I want a Toby Carvery now though

I prefer a Toby Carvery to many pretentious posh places.

One of the markers of social economic status is the variety of types of people you’re exposed to.

if for example (and this is an example don’t start berating me about it) if your dad is a refuse collector, and only knows other refuse collectors socially, then you have a narrow access to diversity.

if your dad is say, the director of waste for the council, you may know refuse collectors, but you may also know people of various professions; local politicians; consultants and professional advisors, local business people, etc.

There is no doubt of that 😂 but you try getting a bricklayer in Cornwall who can work 5 days a week for 9 months on a new estate. There is, as you know, a massive shortage of trades and some parts of the country are worse than others.

Is the director of waste for the council likely to introduce his children to refuse collectors though? My father wax a refuse collector for a little while and never introduced me to any of his colleagues let alone his boss.

My children have only briefly met one of my colleagues when I bumped into her in the street

Does it matter? the example came from my best friend whose dad has been director of waste for 25 years and has many refuse collector friends. But even so, again, you’ve jumped on a tiny detail after demanding I give you a big picture answer

You've never heard the saying " money can't buy class" then have you?

Ok so how does it work for me. I've live in a fairly affluent town. Have friends from unemployed lady ,( due to disability) tax barrister, accountants, shop workers, lorry drivers,teachers head of wages, GP and lady who lunches. My kids school friends had parents from the same kind of range.. So wide range of influences

Not a tiny detail in general who introduces their kids to their colleagues unless you’re close friends which you are unlikely to be best friends with your boss and the director is surely very unlikely to introduce his kids to his subordinates?

Or “money talks wealth whispers” or equally bullshit bootlicker phrases parroted by wannabe Nancy mitfords.

maybe the new one should be “you might earn £100k but you still go to toby cavery” 😂😂

It’s not meant to be taken literally. People said it about prince harry when he used to smoke pot and get into trouble does that mean he’s not upper class?
saw People on here saying working class don’t have books in their houses, when you can get a book for 20p from the charity shop you really think someone who’s broke and works as a cleaner goes up a class because they bought a 20p book.
Also saw someone say middle class have children in their 30s and working in their 20s but I’m middle class and had my eldest at 16. That’s before we get into Elon musk who’s obviously upper class and has a multitude of children unsure when he started but probably quite young.

What do you mean how does it work for you?

Well you were stating about social economic status and people you (and your kids) are exposed to.

So do the people im exposed to change my" class" If so in which way.?

TBH I really can't imagine only associating with people with the same sort of jobs/ income. Sounds very insular

Lol I might even eat there myself for a 100 k income. .

TBH I only know the one near me ( partners bloody family do's that I try to avoid)

No issue with carvery in general. There was a nice one in another local town but unfortunately that closed

What’s working class? Junk food, cheap meals, Harvesters, Toby’s?🤷‍♀️

Does it matter?

If you like them go. If you don’t, then don’t go. 🙄

To be fair she's got a point, we're working class and our friends include unemployed people, shop workers, low paid office workers, cleaners etc. I don't know anyone in a high powered job and I don't know how I would come in to contact with someone who has a career like that. We live in a small NE town.

Yeah but she says the boss of waste management would introduce his kids to refuse collectors. I don’t see that being common at all

oh no, not the working class! Since you were there-I'll make the assumption you are also working class.

Yeah ok fair point. But just on your last point of only associating with people on the same income/same type of jobs, I genuinely don't know how I'd ever come in to contact with someone who isn't, it just isn't like that round here.

Wait, this isn't who you are. This is what class you're in. Are you a bot? 😂

It doesn’t change your class. It tells you nothing alone.

I’ve said so many times identifying the class you belong to (if you can’t actually do it yourself, what with you knowing yourself best and all) it isn’t black and white. It isn’t some isolated measure. There is no isolated measure of social class

In the post where I mentioned socio economic diversity I mentioned at least 10 other indicators of class, most more important than your social economic diversity.

You are correct !

What class would you say you are and why would you say you’re it?

I’m not interested in justifying my class to you. I know my life and my background and I know how I identify. You know nothing about me and have no right to argue with me about it.

Interestingly, someone’s class is rarely decided by the person themself.
It’s a third party deal.