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To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/10/2025 22:43

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

Police have launched a manhunt after a former asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl was mistakenly released from prison.
Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu, who arrived in the UK on a small boat, was jailed for 12 months over the attack in Epping, Essex, last month.

Custody shot of Hadush Kebatu

Manhunt for asylum seeker jailed for sexual assault mistakenly released

Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu sparked nationwide protests after sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

OP posts:
Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:29

TheaBrandt1 · 26/10/2025 04:27

Yes their countries are poor with a low quality of life. They can see the West thanks to internet etc as wasn’t the case in times past and they can see how much better it is. It’s easy to travel now. Why would they not want to come here? Wouldn’t you rather live in Epping than Chad?

It’s actually terrifying if you think about it. I think in the future we will have to lock ourselves down to survive. I feel awful saying that as on an individual level it’s nice to help people in need but we can’t take the numbers who would want to live here if it’s whole countries that are failing.

But do you think thats the individuals fault?

Wouldn't you rather work to a solution for everyone?

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:29

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:18

Outside a home for kids.

You see no problem with that?

See this is why I can't argue with you, your morality is so far removed from mine.

I couldn't do that to kids.

Of course I see a problem with that ..
But how does that make the political party reform evil.
It's not reform counselors standing there shouting
What policies of reform are you referring to as being evil

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:30

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:29

But do you think thats the individuals fault?

Wouldn't you rather work to a solution for everyone?

Do we not give enough money in aid to help these people in their own country?

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:32

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 04:27

Obvious - by removing the incentive to come here illegally in the first place through strong enforcement, detention.

Asylum claim rejected out of hand if you have entered illegally as doing so is a crime by definition.

Zero prospect of British citizenship or permanent residency for the rest of your life.

All future visa applications automatically rejected.

Pragmatic incentives to return. If the choice is languish in a detention centre or co-operate with authorities and receive some support to return to your country of birth/residency, many will choose the latter eventually.

It used to work. Pre 2011 the UK was deporting 60k+ people per year. It’s nonsense for people to claim it cannot work again.

But reform aren't advocating that. The nearest is labour. So would you vote labour?

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:34

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:30

Do we not give enough money in aid to help these people in their own country?

No, and what does that even mean from Your end?

I certainly don't think we as a country have paid fairly towards the issues we've caused world wide.

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:35

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:34

No, and what does that even mean from Your end?

I certainly don't think we as a country have paid fairly towards the issues we've caused world wide.

Oh come on ..
You can't be serious

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:38

Other countries need to help to .. the worlds problems are not up to the UK to fund or solve
We give our fair share in aid ..and then more
We are now funding contraception in Pakistan f sake

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:39

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:35

Oh come on ..
You can't be serious

A) what do you think the British empire was?

B) where do you think the minerals that are powering your device you're typing on come from?

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 04:40

HelenaWaiting · 26/10/2025 03:20

No, Reform will win the next election because of the lamebrains who throw their hands up and insist it's inevitable. Evil prevails while good people do nothing. And they are evil. As is anyone who votes for them.

If you really think the millions of people who have already voted for Reform are evil then there is clearly little hope for you or democracy in this country.

Why must modern society dilute words until they are meaningless.

Trying to brand the entire swathe of one’s political opponents as “evil” is childish and corrosive to democratic society. Unfortunately this sort of behaviour is becoming typical of the modern left.

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:41

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:38

Other countries need to help to .. the worlds problems are not up to the UK to fund or solve
We give our fair share in aid ..and then more
We are now funding contraception in Pakistan f sake

But reform don't want a Muslim army, in their own words. So surely that makes sense?

Or do you make up the rules as you go along?

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:42

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 04:40

If you really think the millions of people who have already voted for Reform are evil then there is clearly little hope for you or democracy in this country.

Why must modern society dilute words until they are meaningless.

Trying to brand the entire swathe of one’s political opponents as “evil” is childish and corrosive to democratic society. Unfortunately this sort of behaviour is becoming typical of the modern left.

I think they've been swayed by propaganda.

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:43

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:41

But reform don't want a Muslim army, in their own words. So surely that makes sense?

Or do you make up the rules as you go along?

So back to the question you can't seem to answer
Why do you think the reform political party is evil

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:47

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 04:40

If you really think the millions of people who have already voted for Reform are evil then there is clearly little hope for you or democracy in this country.

Why must modern society dilute words until they are meaningless.

Trying to brand the entire swathe of one’s political opponents as “evil” is childish and corrosive to democratic society. Unfortunately this sort of behaviour is becoming typical of the modern left.

As telling your opponents they are childish is also.

The issue for me is that the right are no longer engaged in democracy. They are screaming that they are unheard when they already have the loudest voice. They are demanding solutions that can only result in deaths. They are belittling everyone with an opposing voice while claiming they are victims of suppression.

There is little the left can do apart from watch as they ride a tank over the world.

LoudSnoringDog · 26/10/2025 04:47

Lambington · 24/10/2025 22:46

I dont see how voting for more austerity policies and yet more cuts to public services will help with matters like this OP.

I’ve spoken to a few “reform” voters. They don’t appear to have yet grasped this bit, only that the “boats will stop”…..

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:49

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:43

So back to the question you can't seem to answer
Why do you think the reform political party is evil

I didn't say that. I said I think it's pretty evil to stand in front of a house of unaccompanied asylum seeking kids holding banners that say they're rapists.

Which some reform supporters did yesterday.

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:52

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:49

I didn't say that. I said I think it's pretty evil to stand in front of a house of unaccompanied asylum seeking kids holding banners that say they're rapists.

Which some reform supporters did yesterday.

Ah ok
Well then yes if that is what happened..I've not seen it on the news ,and they were children..yes I would agree with you

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:53

Also, I checked yesterday and reform is a business run as a political party. It is NOW non profit. But it wasn't, as soon as farage ceded power, it was suddenly non profit.

All easy to find on Google.

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:56

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:53

Also, I checked yesterday and reform is a business run as a political party. It is NOW non profit. But it wasn't, as soon as farage ceded power, it was suddenly non profit.

All easy to find on Google.

That's true .
I don't think NF actually wants to be PM I think he just likes the drama
But having him around making waves , snapping at the heels of labour will make them up their game

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:56

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 04:52

Ah ok
Well then yes if that is what happened..I've not seen it on the news ,and they were children..yes I would agree with you

Thankyou, It was in Kent. It's the second time they've done it.

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 05:01

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:47

As telling your opponents they are childish is also.

The issue for me is that the right are no longer engaged in democracy. They are screaming that they are unheard when they already have the loudest voice. They are demanding solutions that can only result in deaths. They are belittling everyone with an opposing voice while claiming they are victims of suppression.

There is little the left can do apart from watch as they ride a tank over the world.

Telling someone a particular opinion they hold is childish is not quite the same as branding a huge section of the population evil, is it? But I think you know that.

We need to remember how to talk about things sensibly if there is to be any hope for democracy.

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 05:04

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 05:01

Telling someone a particular opinion they hold is childish is not quite the same as branding a huge section of the population evil, is it? But I think you know that.

We need to remember how to talk about things sensibly if there is to be any hope for democracy.

I said the reform supporters holding signs up saying the inhabitants of a house for unaccompanied minor asylum seekers were rapists were evil.

I appreciate it it's a lot of words.

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 05:06

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 05:04

I said the reform supporters holding signs up saying the inhabitants of a house for unaccompanied minor asylum seekers were rapists were evil.

I appreciate it it's a lot of words.

Pretty evil.

It's not like i advocated their execution.

Crake1792 · 26/10/2025 05:06

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 04:49

I didn't say that. I said I think it's pretty evil to stand in front of a house of unaccompanied asylum seeking kids holding banners that say they're rapists.

Which some reform supporters did yesterday.

How is that evil?

It could be misguided, excessive perhaps, stupid and rude even. But evil? I mean what’s the worst that’s going to happen - some people might be offended or feel unwelcome, possibly a bit scared

You want to put that in the bucket along with the murder of Rhiannon Whyte, the abuse of children etc? Give your head a wobble.

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 05:11

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 05:04

I said the reform supporters holding signs up saying the inhabitants of a house for unaccompanied minor asylum seekers were rapists were evil.

I appreciate it it's a lot of words.

You know ,a fair few people.myself including,want Immigration looked at and policies changed for the better ,for people already living in the UK.
But that doesn't necessarily make them reform voters .
Im not voting reform.im hoping to vote labour...if they make some changes to immigration policies.
The people protesting may not be reform voters
Who ever they are ,and who ever they vote for ...I'm very surprised the police don't move them on ...protesting outside somewhere housing children is low .and it's not like the children have any control over their situation.. bizarre

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 05:36

Winterrobin5 · 26/10/2025 05:11

You know ,a fair few people.myself including,want Immigration looked at and policies changed for the better ,for people already living in the UK.
But that doesn't necessarily make them reform voters .
Im not voting reform.im hoping to vote labour...if they make some changes to immigration policies.
The people protesting may not be reform voters
Who ever they are ,and who ever they vote for ...I'm very surprised the police don't move them on ...protesting outside somewhere housing children is low .and it's not like the children have any control over their situation.. bizarre

Same.

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