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To think this is why Reform will win the next election “Epping hotel asylum seeker mistakenly released”

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 24/10/2025 22:43

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

Police have launched a manhunt after a former asylum seeker who sexually assaulted a 14-year-old girl was mistakenly released from prison.
Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu, who arrived in the UK on a small boat, was jailed for 12 months over the attack in Epping, Essex, last month.

Custody shot of Hadush Kebatu

Manhunt for asylum seeker jailed for sexual assault mistakenly released

Ethiopian national Hadush Kebatu sparked nationwide protests after sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2d5rl36vgo

OP posts:
Lambington · 24/10/2025 22:46

I dont see how voting for more austerity policies and yet more cuts to public services will help with matters like this OP.

HedwigEliza · 24/10/2025 22:47

I'm somewhat convinced that 1. The Tories knew they'd fucked up massively and intentionally threw the last election to drop the bags on Starmer and do damage control on their reputations. And 2. Labour have now realised how royally fucked up the situation is and that some decisions that would previously have been seen as radical or extreme are going to have to be made - yet they don't want to be the ones to make them. They’re ideologically opposed and can’t square the circle.

It would be a relief for both parties if neither were the ones in power next election.

AspiringChatBot · 24/10/2025 22:48

How would a Reform government possibly translate to fewer mistakes? I mean .... aren't they essentially the same party who advocated for Brexit?

GingerPaste · 24/10/2025 22:50

I’m not sure how Reform would stop this sort of incompetence…

HedwigEliza · 24/10/2025 22:51

AspiringChatBot · 24/10/2025 22:48

How would a Reform government possibly translate to fewer mistakes? I mean .... aren't they essentially the same party who advocated for Brexit?

I think people would be willing to forgive mistakes if they were made. It’s the utter inability to act, the paralysis, the unwillingness to do anything at all to tackle the problems at all that’s most infuriating. They simply won’t try. Drastic measures are needed, and Labour don’t want to be the ones to do it.

BuffetTheDietSlayer · 24/10/2025 22:51

Can you explain your reasoning?

ELO10538 · 24/10/2025 23:09

Lambington · 24/10/2025 22:46

I dont see how voting for more austerity policies and yet more cuts to public services will help with matters like this OP.

It will be an expression of public anger. Whether it helps the situation or not is irrelevant.

Starmer has to hang someone out to dry for this or he is history.

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/10/2025 23:12

Yep. If only there was a solution to all this migrant madness.

MissKitty0 · 24/10/2025 23:14

Lambington · 24/10/2025 22:46

I dont see how voting for more austerity policies and yet more cuts to public services will help with matters like this OP.

If Reform were in power he wouldn’t have been let in in the first place and put up in a four star hotel free to roam around and sexually assault children would he!

MissKitty0 · 24/10/2025 23:16

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/10/2025 23:12

Yep. If only there was a solution to all this migrant madness.

Normal countries can manage it. Try illegally breaking into China or UAE. You’d be jailed immediately, deported and have a lifetime ban from the country. No four star hotels, council house and lifelong benefits and healthcare.

mumofoneAloneandwell · 24/10/2025 23:16

Yanbu 😪

GameofPhones · 24/10/2025 23:17

They are not 4 star hotels.

EasternStandard · 24/10/2025 23:19

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/10/2025 23:12

Yep. If only there was a solution to all this migrant madness.

There is, others have managed it.

Poppingby · 24/10/2025 23:21

And what do you think about the possibility of Reform winning the next election, OP?

ilovesooty · 24/10/2025 23:23

Poppingby · 24/10/2025 23:21

And what do you think about the possibility of Reform winning the next election, OP?

I think we could hazard a guess.

ethelredonagoodday · 24/10/2025 23:27

The suggestion that all the migrants are in 4 star hotel is frankly risible. However, what is a fact is that migration is only going to become a bigger issue, as climate change takes hold, and more and more people have to leave the places they’ve lived in. To suggest that it’s going to suddenly reduce or become ‘manageable’ is a fantasy.

Higglea · 24/10/2025 23:34

Yes. It amazes me most commenters on mumsnet can’t see it. Flags up in even well to do villages now.
I’d never vote Reforn, but live in a bit of the country which is very mixed electorally (lots of county and seat borders). People I know in both economically deprived and well off areas have had enough and the immigration thing goes to the heart of a unifying issue - fairness.
They’ll keep growing in popularity and for those of us who really don’t want a Reform govt or coalition, our only hope is they mess up/implode enough to put enough of their middle ground voters off.

RitaFromThePitCanteen · 24/10/2025 23:36

Constant threads banging on about how Reform are going to win the next election are coming across as astroturfing.

PolarExpression · 24/10/2025 23:41

Yanbu. Both the tories and Labour have made a total mess of illegal immigration. Both parties have also screwed the economy and no one is happy.

I think voters probably feel there is no choice but to vote Reform. Everyone is angry about the lies and mess. What happened to Starmer 'smashing to gangs'? He can't even manage to return one migrant successfully.

HeddaGarbled · 24/10/2025 23:41

Plaid Cymru, though 🎉

NewspaperTaxis · 24/10/2025 23:45

I don't get who is putting up the flags in high streets - I don't dislike the British flag but the agenda behind this is disturbing, it feels foisted on us and it's odd the Council can't or won't do anything. I live in Epsom Surrey btw.

The prison release reeks of State incompetence or even corruption; Zoe Williams on Sky News hinted as much of the latter on the News Preview this evening it seemed to me. I mean how do drones with drugs get into prisons, it can't be that hard to stop them surely, just get a big net to go over the place. Or do criminal gangs know the home addresses of the prison governors?

I generally like a 'prisoner on the run' story and often enough am egging them on like they're Richard Hannay in The 39 Steps or Young Churchill in the Boer War but I make an exception in this case - that said maybe one year in the clink for attempting to kiss an underage teenager might be a tad excessive... then again didn't he have a history back home of this kind of stuff?

Did he jump the barrier so he could get on a train to London? How much cash would he be issued?

To me it just seems to be the State that is rubbish and nobody ever does jail time if they work for it, look at the Post Office scandal and any other State-orientated scandal.

ninjahamster · 24/10/2025 23:45

I mean, they might win. They won’t be the answer though. They’ve no experience of government, no decent policies. Just empty rhetoric and campaigns fueled by the public vulnerabilities.

Farage would have to actually spend time in his own country. The NHS would be wiped out.

Reform supporters, what’s his policies on education? Social care? climate change?

NewspaperTaxis · 24/10/2025 23:48

In a way Farage is a typical State operative - create a problem then present yourself as the solution to it, I mean of course re Brexit and the small boats, which have grown in number ever since.

EmeraldRoulette · 24/10/2025 23:49

I live in Essex and I know exactly what you mean

My main concern with Reform is that they have no experience of the mechanics And practicalities of running a country

But given the absolute shit show the experienced parties have produced over the last few years, perhaps my concern is foolish.

This situation is probably the result of years of problematic decisions and cuts within prison staffing

But Reform are the only party who would look to prevent him being here in the first place. In reality, I'm not sure that they will have the balls to sort that out.

Mom6toomany · 24/10/2025 23:49

Reform are clueless. They have no policies and zero knowledge of what it takes to run a country, saying that they can fix the problems doesn’t mean they actually can.

Please take a moment to reflect on why we have these huge problems (Nigel, UKIP & the gift that keeps on giving Brexit) and then use the inch of common sense that God (or whatever higher power you believe in) and dig deep to see that if you vote for Reform then you are voting for the Turkeys that created this mess in the first place.

It’s really not that complicated.

Labour & the Tories also currently have no clue, unfortunately neither are brave enough to reverse Brexit and finally take back control.

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