Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

"Before Brexit, the UK could return asylum seekers to their first EU country of arrival under the Dublin III Regulation, a practice that became difficult after leaving the EU.
says BBC.

In fact, the BBC said;
The regulation allowed some asylum seekers to be returned to the first country in the EU that they had entered [a few hundred per year]

The Republic of Ireland have not left the EU;

Aug 2024
Ireland applied to send more than 2,750 asylum applicants back to the EU country where they first arrived or sought international protection, but has been able to return only 31, the Department of Justice has said.
The department admitted the system for inter-country transfers was not “fit for purpose” and that what is known as the Dublin Regulation had significant problems and was ineffective.
In 2022 and 2023, Ireland continued to make a substantial number of “take back and take charge” requests, with 698 and 592 respectively. However, the number of actual returns carried out remained remarkably low, with just three in each year.
“In practice, and in keeping with the experience of all member states, the Dublin Regulation has not been effective. Across the EU, the rate of transfer compared to request remains low,”
https://www.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/ireland-applied-to-return-2758-asylum-seekers-in-the-past-four-years-but-only-31-sent-back/a2035939943.html

I don’t understand why he was being deported at this early stage. Shouldn’t he have received his punishment first? A year in prison?

He won’t have to serve his sentence in Sudan if he ever gets found and sent there. Was the idea that it doesn’t really matter if he assaults someone in Sudan?

Well all the people who claim to care about the women of this country seem to have no problem unleashing a potential sex offender on the female population of whichever country they decide to send him to.

He should be dealt with here, punished and rehabilitated so he can become a productive member of society.

So British women should run the risk of being raped by this man to save the hypothetical Sudanese women he'd be raping otherwise? Would you say the same about a white British rapist in Thailand, that the onus was on Thai society to punish and rehabilitate him and if they didn't and just deported him, it's because they didn't care about British women?

I don't think he wants rehabilitation- he expressed a 'firm wish' to be deported at his sentencing.

If you have any man in the sphere of your daily life you run the risk of something terrible happening, that’s just a fact of life. At least this man can be potentially educated, I have seen that some people struggled with the ideas of consent laws in western countries and with better knowledge perhaps a lot of this can be avoided. It’s worth a try over some of the other suggested solutions is it not?

'Struggled with the idea of consent laws' - are you seriously making apologies for rapists now?

They usually have to serve at least half the sentence before being deported and let’s face it 12 months doesn’t actually mean 12 months anyway. He would have been out before then anyway so has probably already served half of what they were going to detain him for.

No not at all. There is no justification but it is a factor that has been reported on with a few of the high profile cases. Cultures across the globe are different regarding a whole manner of legal and ethical issues but if nobody is telling these men on arrival what they can and can’t do then that’s a problem and it needs to be addressed.

And that’s not me making any particular judgement on any culture by the way, I don’t believe that any culture is inherently better or worse than another. It is purely just making a point on how different some cultures see things, it’s part of what makes diversity so amazing in many respects.

No thanks. More than likely beyond rehabilitating. Possibly a history of doing this back in Sudan, but probably got away with it there because raping and assaulting women there is a way of life. He should have been punished in Sudan before being unleashed on us, because I’m pretty sure this is not his first offence, but probably the first time his behaviour has been called out.

So it has to be made clear to these new arrivals that they can't rape women and sexually asssault children as well as stab us? Just to avoid any confusion they might have?
That's the problem is it - poor communication of our expectations? Is there a comprehensive list of do's and don'ts you have in mind?

Not it doesn’t need to addressed. The vast majority have told you this loud and clear on this thread. You are the only one arguing for this nonsense. We don’t need to address anything. Not having such people here in the first place means there is nothing to address.

100% right. Simply the only way to stop this. Detain and deport all illegal immigrants. I don't know why we have to bother with passports - we have open borders now.

You have to be trolling by this point.

It is relevant as if illegal immigrants were detained this wouldn't have happened.

I think you'll find @Swiftasthewind has been told they are 'very talented at bringing people round to their way of thinking"

Doing a sterling job so far. Having convinced a grand total of 0 people on this thread.

Asylum seekers do you mean? You are not an illegal immigrant until your application to live here is rejected surely?

It seems that being perceived as racist, is a much greater crime than being an actual rapist.

Yes I think it still is 0.5 of the sentence for sex offenders, so six months. He was arrested in July so shouldn’t have been released for deportation till end of January earliest?

And how do you know that exactly? For all you and I know, there are many people who feel too intimidated to come on and voice their dissent against the hive mind that seems to be attracted to threads like this but agree with me wholeheartedly.

It’s not exactly a safe opinion these days to be pro immigrant and pro multiculturalism.

...and did you see Mariella Frostrup on Question Time saying that we are "dehumanising immigrants"?

By the Krankies?

Look, I know you don’t like to admit the obvious, but for those who can read, they’ll read the replies and see how many people you have managed to convince with your well known and celebrated influential style.

If anything, you have provided comedic value with some real gems that have attracted nothing but laughter. On such a serious subject.