To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

[AngeloMysterioso]

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

Oh get you - you're "provoking a debate" - your point is still nonsense. If you had any critical thinking you'd see that.

Maybe so, but then she was cheating on her partner(s) multiple times, with sex workers. I think I remember a song she released about how small an exes penis was. Imagine this behaviour from a man. She’s incredibly entitled and doesn’t seem to have any self awareness at all

I think the album is bloody awful, no idea what all the fuss is about.

So she was a druggy who fucked prostitutes? Her poor ex.

I've never listened to her music, sounds like she needs a lot of therapy.

Try to write a pop song and I guarantee you won't think she's talentless anymore...

Can't believe people are still using phrases like 'airing dirty laundry in public' in 2025. A very repressed and unhealthy attitude.

LA's children will already know a weirdly large amount of stuff about her personal life as it's been splashed all over the tabloids for decades, so their situation is a bit different

Why is everyone forgetting to mention that these abortions cost our nhs millions each year? I’ve had one with zero shame when I was very young. It wasn’t pleasant and because I have a social conscience and care about our dying public services I wouldn’t gratuitously have another or use it as contraception. I don’t think that makes me anti feminist 🙄

There’s such a thing as going privately.

What Lily chooses to do with her body is up to her.

The judgement anc shaming on this thread is shocking.

Yes that was awful - using abortion as contraception was very poor role modelling and casually laughing about it was abhorrent

It’s all P.R to sell her album, isn’t it? These ‘revelations’ won’t damage him. It’s her kids who I feel sorry for. All these tawdry stories… I can’t imagine it would have been enjoyable at the school playground in the days after it emerged that mummy used sex workers.

I'd rather women use abortions as contraception- which I am uncertain she did anyway- than have unwanted children.
People who believe abortion is destroying early human life needn't have them. The rest of us can. I will save my vitriol for shit men who won't use condoms and leave contraception to women. Anyone who looks to Lily as a role model needs their head examined, anyway.

I have never had one, btw. I am a conservative S Asian married to the same man for nearly 30 years. But if I had been pregnant when I didn't want to be, I would certainly have one without all this guilt we are supposed to feel.

I wish I hadn’t read this thread. I used to quite like her music, but I didn’t know anything about her….

Also anyone who says " I am pro-choice but"... isn't really pro-choice. Either you support abortions or not. Not just carefully considered abortions in the appropriate number while feeling terribly guilty.

That’s very reductive.

You think it’s healthy to share everything to everyone?

Nope. I am pro abortion up to 20 weeks and not after and thus have just proven your statement wrong.

Not even the tiniest bit interested in a debate on why that's my personal cut off because you know my stance entirely and I know yours entirely.

However, I am pro abortion BUT not after 20 weeks means I am pro abortion up to 20 weeks.

Not that I am anti abortion at any stage.

So you're incorrect.

Taylor Swift wrote a song about her fiancé's dick ffs )))

Who is sharing "everything to everyone"? You are overreacting.

I’ve been reading this thread from the beginning and I honestly think it’s gone in an odd direction. So many posters are now just here to personally assassinate Lily’s character and her life choices. Not sure that was at all the purpose of the thread.

I'd like to remind people that not all women who've had abortions are doing it because of an unwanted pregnancy. Some very much want their babies but because of a risk to their own life (eg. ectopic pregnancies) or because the baby won't survive being born or won't live for long afterwards they choose to terminate the pregnancy. So yes, joking about how many abortions you've had is pretty awful, and a woman listening to that who had to make a very hard choice may well have found it upsetting. I certainly find it grim.

It's incredibly hard for 90s/00s artists to have another hit album over 20 years later. Many have tried and failed!

This album seems like its going to do well so fair play to her for that. Does anyone know if she wrote it herself?

I find the whole PR thing fascinating and how some celebs can rebuild their brand into something 'cool' and relevant while others come off as desperate and out of touch Katy Perry. Her comeback began with the podcast and lots of little stories strategically released to the media over the last year. She then managed to turn a failed marriage into a hit album. Whatever you think of her personal choices, she's a hell of a business woman and/or has an outstanding manager.

I agree @PinkPanther57 and I am that way but like I said, it’s never that simple is it? Witness the wealthy, rich and famous Lily Allen getting ruined by this idiot. Expectations have changed for good, especially in these privileged circles.

I don’t subscribe to the idea myself but some do. That is the point.

I don"t believe that Lily Allen needs to take responsibility for anyone else's situation, however sad.