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The Mandela effect

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Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 20:15

Does anyone have any strong assertions that their false memories are real, even though it's been proven they are not?

I've just read about 100 people all absolutely swearing that the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia. I don't remember it with one at all, I think they're all batshit, honestly 😄

I also don't think there was a movie called shabaaz or whatever it was, I don't think Mandela died in prison and I don't think the monopoly man had a monocle

What I am am absolutely certain of though, is that walkers bloody well DID change their crisp colours!!!

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Spokebefore · 22/10/2025 20:17

Yes is infuriates me. I remember things for a fact. For example I only know what a cornucopia is because of FOTL. Someone also posted an old tshirt where the label clearly has one so I don’t know why they claim they never did.

ChillBarrog · 22/10/2025 20:18

Walkers didn't. People get confused with golden wonder, as they were the biggest seller at the time.

The Mandela effect nonsense pisses me off. Imagine being so unbelievably arrogant that you need to believe the entire universe has shifted rather than you've simply misremembered something.

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 20:18

Spokebefore · 22/10/2025 20:17

Yes is infuriates me. I remember things for a fact. For example I only know what a cornucopia is because of FOTL. Someone also posted an old tshirt where the label clearly has one so I don’t know why they claim they never did.

It's a fake. It never had a cornucopia!!

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Bagsintheboot · 22/10/2025 20:21

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 20:18

It's a fake. It never had a cornucopia!!

Not quite. FOTL did have a cornucopia pre-acquisition by another company. Post-acquisition, there was no cornucopia. The current owner said they have never made t-shirts with the cornucopia, which is correct - they didn't. The old company did.

It's not a mass-false memory. It's just a change of branding and lack of critical thinking.

Rituelec · 22/10/2025 20:24

Walkers did used to be blue for salt and vinegar.

shhblackbag · 22/10/2025 20:25

Bagsintheboot · 22/10/2025 20:21

Not quite. FOTL did have a cornucopia pre-acquisition by another company. Post-acquisition, there was no cornucopia. The current owner said they have never made t-shirts with the cornucopia, which is correct - they didn't. The old company did.

It's not a mass-false memory. It's just a change of branding and lack of critical thinking.

Exactly. There definitely was one.

DappledThings · 22/10/2025 20:26

Walkers haven't changed. There were just lots of other brands who had it the other way round.

Arlanymor · 22/10/2025 20:29

I think it's usually two vague memories tied to a same topic that end up creating the Mandela effect - Walkers never changed the colour of their crisp packets, Golden Wonder did and a big point of it was made at the time that they did it to match Walkers... the two things cemented in people's minds....

Arlanymor · 22/10/2025 20:29

shhblackbag · 22/10/2025 20:25

Exactly. There definitely was one.

This is a good article: https://lux-magazine.com/article/loom-of-lies/

ThreeCorners · 22/10/2025 20:30

Rituelec · 22/10/2025 20:24

Walkers did used to be blue for salt and vinegar.

Why do they say they didn’t then? What is there in it for them?

UnhappyHobbit · 22/10/2025 20:32

I literally remember when Walkers changed. I was annoyed because it didn’t make sense and just confused me into buying salt and vinegar.

tripleginandtonic · 22/10/2025 20:32

Why would people think Mandela died in prison given that his release was on tv and he subsequently became president of SA?

DappledThings · 22/10/2025 20:35

UnhappyHobbit · 22/10/2025 20:32

I literally remember when Walkers changed. I was annoyed because it didn’t make sense and just confused me into buying salt and vinegar.

You don't. You think you do. I remember them always being green for salt and vinegar because it was always the "wrong" way in my head with salt being associated with the sea so blue and onion being a vegetable so green. Walkers have always been that confusing way round.

CandidAzureBee · 22/10/2025 20:35

UnhappyHobbit · 22/10/2025 20:32

I literally remember when Walkers changed. I was annoyed because it didn’t make sense and just confused me into buying salt and vinegar.

Golden Wonder was the predominant brand and then Walkers came along with their different colours, so they never changed but what people were buying did

Arlanymor · 22/10/2025 20:36

DappledThings · 22/10/2025 20:35

You don't. You think you do. I remember them always being green for salt and vinegar because it was always the "wrong" way in my head with salt being associated with the sea so blue and onion being a vegetable so green. Walkers have always been that confusing way round.

Ha, that's so funny to hear that as I made those colour associations too!

Bambamhoohoo · 22/10/2025 20:38

I think it’s just suggestion. The power of suggestion is so powerful.

i read the most interesting article last year about trypophobia. Its origins can be directly linked to internet and posts asking people if they were freaked out by it. no record of it prior despite these patterns occurring in nature. The internet just said “isn’t this scary?”

UnhappyHobbit · 22/10/2025 21:03

DappledThings · 22/10/2025 20:35

You don't. You think you do. I remember them always being green for salt and vinegar because it was always the "wrong" way in my head with salt being associated with the sea so blue and onion being a vegetable so green. Walkers have always been that confusing way round.

I do though. I knew my golden wonder from my walkers. Stop gaslighting me 😅

AlpacaBiscuit · 22/10/2025 21:10

In the James Bond film Moonraker there’s a scene where Jaws (giant man with metal teeth) found a girlfriend, who grinned at him with full on metal braces on her teeth. I can remember this clearly, but apparently she doesn’t have braces.

I tend to not believe in the Mandela effect but this one truly baffles me, and all of my family remember the girlfriend having braces.

I have a personal one, relating to the area where I lived as a teenager into my twenties. When I drive in that area now there’s a village that is totally different, but all the houses and farms are old, certainly not new build within the last 20 years. It weirds me out every time and makes me wonder if there’s something in it.

H202too · 22/10/2025 21:13

What was the snow white one? Mirror Mirror or Magic Mirror?

Itiswhysofew · 22/10/2025 21:16

@Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · - What I am am absolutely certain of though, is that walkers bloody well DID change their crisp colours!!!

Did they?!

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 21:18

Itiswhysofew · 22/10/2025 21:16

@Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · - What I am am absolutely certain of though, is that walkers bloody well DID change their crisp colours!!!

Did they?!

Nah, on balance, probably not 😆

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Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 21:23

H202too · 22/10/2025 21:13

What was the snow white one? Mirror Mirror or Magic Mirror?

I discovered a few years ago, to my absolute SHOCK that there are people who thought that fairy tales like snow white, conderella etc were actually invented by Disney.

I was genuinely gobsmacked people had never heard an original or alternative version of a fairy tale.

But apparently, while most versions of snow white that I've read say "mirror mirror" the Disney one says "magic mirror" and people are confused thinking it's always been "mirror mirror" in Disney when the most likely explanation is that someone once read them a non disney snow white and they were too young to remember but the phrase stayed in their brains.

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donteventhinkaboutthat · 22/10/2025 21:25

Ok mine that I have never been able to prove was that in the TV show Knight Rider with David Hasselhoff I am convinced that KIT (the car) was voiced by a female. She was a bit flirty. I remember it so well but I’m obviously wrong!

AuntieCorruption · 23/10/2025 14:39

I seriously thought I remembered that Ann Heche died in the early 2000’s and that I’d seen photos of her unzipping her own body bag before being bundled into the ambulance on the gurney in The National Enquirer back then!

Then I saw a video of the incident on Facebook and it said she died in 2022, I haven’t even read The National Enquirer since the early 2000s either, I was shocked I could be so wrong 🥴

AuntieCorruption · 23/10/2025 14:44

Another one, I was convinced that David Bowie’s guitarist, Mick Ronson died during lockdown around 2021 ish and that I’d seen it all over the news and watched a tribute show just after his passing!

I was shooketh to find out he died long before Bowie in 1993! 😳

I still think that I was right, and somebody changed it! 😁

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