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The Mandela effect

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Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 22/10/2025 20:15

Does anyone have any strong assertions that their false memories are real, even though it's been proven they are not?

I've just read about 100 people all absolutely swearing that the fruit of the loom logo had a cornucopia. I don't remember it with one at all, I think they're all batshit, honestly 😄

I also don't think there was a movie called shabaaz or whatever it was, I don't think Mandela died in prison and I don't think the monopoly man had a monocle

What I am am absolutely certain of though, is that walkers bloody well DID change their crisp colours!!!

OP posts:
mintich · 23/10/2025 14:46

Walkers own website says they didn't change colours

TorroFerney · 23/10/2025 14:48

AlpacaBiscuit · 22/10/2025 21:10

In the James Bond film Moonraker there’s a scene where Jaws (giant man with metal teeth) found a girlfriend, who grinned at him with full on metal braces on her teeth. I can remember this clearly, but apparently she doesn’t have braces.

I tend to not believe in the Mandela effect but this one truly baffles me, and all of my family remember the girlfriend having braces.

I have a personal one, relating to the area where I lived as a teenager into my twenties. When I drive in that area now there’s a village that is totally different, but all the houses and farms are old, certainly not new build within the last 20 years. It weirds me out every time and makes me wonder if there’s something in it.

I think the braces thing rings a bell, the inference was they had something in common , what was it then (rhetorical question I will do my own research!)

nomas · 23/10/2025 14:49

I have memories of walking through the Stone Henge stones on a school trip as a child in the late 1980s and touching all the stones.

However, Google says Stone Henge was roped off in 1977.

Is there a false memory? Or did anyone else do this in the 80s/90s?

SpotHaven · 23/10/2025 14:53

Bambamhoohoo · 22/10/2025 20:38

I think it’s just suggestion. The power of suggestion is so powerful.

i read the most interesting article last year about trypophobia. Its origins can be directly linked to internet and posts asking people if they were freaked out by it. no record of it prior despite these patterns occurring in nature. The internet just said “isn’t this scary?”

I disagree. I have always hated looking at holes. I remember being a child in the 70s and there was a lorry in front of us and it was carrying loads of pipes. We were behind the lorry and all I could see was the ends of the pipes with the holes. I couldn’t bear it and begged my dad to overtake the lorry but it then kept overtaking us so I could see the holes again. It was a nightmare journey! Way before the Internet. And way before I knew that there was a name for it.

TheGoddessAthena · 23/10/2025 14:56

Rituelec · 22/10/2025 20:24

Walkers did used to be blue for salt and vinegar.

No.

until 1989 when it was acquired by Pepsi, walkers was a regional crisp brand only. Those of us who were kids in the 80s will probably remember Golden Wonder, KP, Tudor, Smiths - Walkers was definitely not a big brand in Scotland. Many of these other brands used blue for their salt and vinegar flavour.

it boggles my mind that some people will not accept they are misremembering. They prefer to believe there’s this massive cover up. 🙄

gooseberryfooled · 23/10/2025 15:00

UnhappyHobbit · 22/10/2025 21:03

I do though. I knew my golden wonder from my walkers. Stop gaslighting me 😅

I always feel like I'M being gaslit by this one!!

One of my earliest memories is of my dad buying me the wrong flavour crisps because I asked for salt and vinegar and he grabbed a packet of blue Walkers, thinking they were S&V. I was very disappointed with my cheese and onion crisps. This would have been mid-80s.

CocoPlum · 23/10/2025 15:07

It's not that a single person refuses to believe they are misremembering. It's very specifically a false collective memory.

So while the poster who mentions Anne Heche has had a weird experience, that's not the Mandela effect, because no one else remembers this.

AmethystAnnotation · 23/10/2025 15:23

Walkers Cheese & Onion crisp packet from 1983. They have always been blue.

The Mandela effect
EuroTour · 23/10/2025 15:33

nomas · 23/10/2025 14:49

I have memories of walking through the Stone Henge stones on a school trip as a child in the late 1980s and touching all the stones.

However, Google says Stone Henge was roped off in 1977.

Is there a false memory? Or did anyone else do this in the 80s/90s?

We did too. I've got pictures of me in the 70s next to the stones before they were roped off. I'm guessing they allowed organised trips in. We also went into Downing Street and stood outside number 10 as brownies in the early 80s until we had to leave so Margaret Thatcher 🤮 could exit.

CloudSky · 23/10/2025 15:35

Bambamhoohoo · 22/10/2025 20:38

I think it’s just suggestion. The power of suggestion is so powerful.

i read the most interesting article last year about trypophobia. Its origins can be directly linked to internet and posts asking people if they were freaked out by it. no record of it prior despite these patterns occurring in nature. The internet just said “isn’t this scary?”

I noticed my reaction to things with holes before I’d ever heard of it on the internet. My first experience of it was a wart my mum had frozen on her hand. As it started to break down it became pick holes and the sight (and memory) of it gave me a physical reaction. That must be over 20 years ago.

Similarly I experienced submechanophobia before I eventually looked it up to see if other people had the same feeling and reaction. Turns out they do, and it has a name 😂

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 23/10/2025 15:43

Walkers definitely didn’t switch colours. As others have said it was because Golden Wonder were the reverse.

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:00

EuroTour · 23/10/2025 15:33

We did too. I've got pictures of me in the 70s next to the stones before they were roped off. I'm guessing they allowed organised trips in. We also went into Downing Street and stood outside number 10 as brownies in the early 80s until we had to leave so Margaret Thatcher 🤮 could exit.

Thanks, good to know it was possible!

I never got to go to Downing Street, it's a shame it all had to stop!

MammaTill2Pojkar · 23/10/2025 16:05

I remember Walkers green and blue swapping flavours and a cornucopia on Fruits of the Loom.

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:08

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:00

Thanks, good to know it was possible!

I never got to go to Downing Street, it's a shame it all had to stop!

It wouldn’t have been possible when you visited though surely, as it had been roped off long before then?

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:09

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:08

It wouldn’t have been possible when you visited though surely, as it had been roped off long before then?

Maybe they let us snot nosed kids in for some reason?!

DiscoBob · 23/10/2025 16:13

FOTL did have a cornucopia. Well it had a bunch of fruit, whether it was in a horn or not, a bit unsure. That was it's whole thing?! I have a school photo of me wearing a green FOTL jumper with the fruit. I'll try and find it!

All the others I've heard do sound like false memories. Even the actual Mandela one, I am baffled by it but I guess if it originated in America, their history and geography of other nations could easily be somewhat lacking.

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:16

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:09

Maybe they let us snot nosed kids in for some reason?!

I rather doubt that. It was roped off for good reason and a group of school kids would be the last people you’d want to allow in. I’d put money on it being a false memory.

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:16

I rather doubt that. It was roped off for good reason and a group of school kids would be the last people you’d want to allow in. I’d put money on it being a false memory.

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

MedievalNun · 23/10/2025 16:18

Re Jaw’s girlfriend - I remember her as having braces on her teeth too - does she not??

IHateWasps · 23/10/2025 16:19

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

Of course not.

Jc2001 · 23/10/2025 16:22

AmethystAnnotation · 23/10/2025 15:23

Walkers Cheese & Onion crisp packet from 1983. They have always been blue.

Have you been saving that packet just in case this conversation came up 😁

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:25

Someone changed their crips colour - but not sure if I remember who it was - I know they were big so might assume walkers but if other posters are right and another brand was bigger then - explains the confusion.

Never understood the Mandela one - as it was a big thing him getting out and waving and then being the SA president.

In the James Bond film Moonraker there’s a scene where Jaws (giant man with metal teeth) found a girlfriend, who grinned at him with full on metal braces on her teeth. I can remember this clearly, but apparently she doesn’t have braces.

I'd have probably said she did as well though could have been thick glasses instead.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:28

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:18

Does this mean I have to stop telling people I played between the stones?

I played between stones - but it wasn't famous stone henge was a smaller regional.

One of the teacher knew farmer who had one in his field and he let us eat lunch there getting of coach on a day trip somewhere else and play in the henge.

CustardySergeant · 23/10/2025 16:28

AuntieCorruption · 23/10/2025 14:39

I seriously thought I remembered that Ann Heche died in the early 2000’s and that I’d seen photos of her unzipping her own body bag before being bundled into the ambulance on the gurney in The National Enquirer back then!

Then I saw a video of the incident on Facebook and it said she died in 2022, I haven’t even read The National Enquirer since the early 2000s either, I was shocked I could be so wrong 🥴

Unzipping her own body bag? 😕

nomas · 23/10/2025 16:29

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 23/10/2025 16:28

I played between stones - but it wasn't famous stone henge was a smaller regional.

One of the teacher knew farmer who had one in his field and he let us eat lunch there getting of coach on a day trip somewhere else and play in the henge.

Oooh what year was this?

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