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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

OP posts:
ThisGentleRaven · 20/10/2025 15:48

nosleepforme · 20/10/2025 15:39

for me there’s two things here

  1. mil - horrible, wouldn’t want her near my dd ever again. Completely unacceptable and abusive. she’s a bully! And a nasty witch.
  2. dd reaction - it wasn’t polite. Let’s just be frank. But she’s human and a teen, so I totally understand her.

I don’t think I would make dd apologise. It’s a shame she reacted with name calling a grandparent, but I really don’t blame her. What else could she have done to defend the abuse that just wasn’t stopping?!
i think your job right now is to support dd and not subject her to a relationship in which she is being bullied.

not polite?

called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again

that is extremely polite

I would be extremely impressed to have a teen pushed to the limit not saying worst than that.

I wouldn't have waited for her to explode, I would likely have told MIL to shut up long before this.

PicaK · 20/10/2025 15:48

I have a feeling you let it go on a bit to see if DD would change her mind.
Team DD all the way. She is owed profusely apologies from...
You
Your dh
But mostly her nan

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 15:49

is this her biological grandmother too?

I think this is one where your husband needs to take the lead. Right now, when you’re furious on your child’s behalf, he’s framing it as you vs them in his head whilst firmly placing himself in the middle. Whereas he needs to be the one going up against his family in the sense of telling them it isn’t right and that changes are required etc as opposed to him just trying to keep the peace and continue as before. I really don’t understand why he would fall out with his sister over this, there’s nothing offensive that comes from saying it’s “best to keep them apart” or whatever.

Sleepflower43 · 20/10/2025 15:50

Team DD 100%. You should be very proud that she stood up for herself!
You and your DH now need to support her decision to go NC.

BoringBarbie · 20/10/2025 15:50

What kind of apology does MIL want?

"I'm sorry you're a nasty old witch, and that you won't see me or speak to me again." is the only one I can think of.

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 15:51

Also does your husband silently agree with mil views? If he’s been raised by her, he probably shares similar ideals.

GasPanic · 20/10/2025 15:51

"She has always been like this."

This is the endpoint if you tolerate that sort of behaviour.

It should have been made clear to her years ago that this wasn't acceptable.

ThejoyofNC · 20/10/2025 15:52

I think your DD was pretty restrained to be honest. If someone was talking to my daughter like that they'd sorely regret it.

VenusClapTrap · 20/10/2025 15:53

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 15:51

Also does your husband silently agree with mil views? If he’s been raised by her, he probably shares similar ideals.

That’s not fair. Lots of us don’t share the views of those who raised us.

BrownOwlknowsbest · 20/10/2025 15:53

An apology
I said my grand mother is a nasty old witch it is true and I am sorry for it and she may put the punctuation where she wishes

Bingbangboo · 20/10/2025 15:54

I think the only thing you did wrong was not wading in to the shouting yourself. You should have left as soon as she started. What a horrible woman! No apology necessary, just keep her away from your daughter in future.

sugarapplelane · 20/10/2025 15:55

One thing I’m not sure on Op is why the other adults in the room ( you and your SIL) let this go on? Why didn’t you put a stop to it once the criticism started to flow from you MIL’s mouth? I don’t understand.

Gibstub · 20/10/2025 15:56

Your daughter is correct. Sounds an awful woman. I would not apologise either.

Heronwatcher · 20/10/2025 15:56

Nope she sounds awful and if you back your DD you’re teaching her not to accept this crap. And also maybe MIL will start to value your DD more if she doesn’t see her for a bit.

I would encourage your DD to leave the door open in the longer term if she can. I’d also try to avoid it becoming a whole family thing if you can (apart from making it clear to your SIL that you are supporting your DD and that she should back off).

Fabulously · 20/10/2025 15:57

VenusClapTrap · 20/10/2025 15:53

That’s not fair. Lots of us don’t share the views of those who raised us.

My comment has nothing to do with you though. I said that because he is asking the daughter to apologise as per the OP.

ACR7 · 20/10/2025 15:57

Good on your daughter for defending herself but for me you should have intervened sooner and firmer than you did. I’d have been apocalyptic in your shoes. How horrible for your daughter.

gamerchick · 20/10/2025 15:58

I'd back the bairn all the way.

neverevergonnaeatkale · 20/10/2025 16:00

Your poor daughter! Please make sure you stay on her side and do not apologise to your MIL. She deserves everything that she got so just let her stew. I really hope your DH is on DDs side too and let’s his mother know that she deserves everything she got.
Your daughter sounds lovely, as do you (and your niece)

Lengokengo · 20/10/2025 16:00

She won’t get it. Those with favourites who make bitchy comments simply don’t.

if you MIL asks, You could say’ we support a situation where people learn the consequences of their behaviour.’ Then leave it. She can interpret that however she likes!

PGmicstand · 20/10/2025 16:00

The only apology owed is from MIL. A very heartfelt one.

How dare she.

Shoulderscuff · 20/10/2025 16:01

Any decent parent wouldn't have allowed this miserable woman near their children.
Any decent parent would have shut her down with the very first insult.
But you allowed her to go on and insulting at length your childs looks, personality, and her future prospects?
How could any decent, normal parent allow their precious child be victim to such a sustained verbal assault?

Utterly shameful.
Poor child.
I hope she confides in a trusted adult like a teacher, to the type of abuse she has suffered in her parents presence.

Hard to believe this could be real.

Boxfreshrussell · 20/10/2025 16:01

Absolutely no apology needed. Your poor DD. I would be telling MIL that I’m happy with my DD being anything in life as long as she doesn’t turn out like you (MIL). I wouldn’t have anything to do with her again.

1dayatatime · 20/10/2025 16:02

grapesstrawberriespleass · 20/10/2025 15:43

Not polite?! Of course it wasn’t polite. How do you ‘politely’ respond to being attacked? She’s a 15 year old, the MIL is an adult and knows better. No wonder the daughter snapped. Who cares that she name called her grandparent?! You don’t automatically respect your elders simply because they’re older.

Ultimately at 15 it is your DD decision to apologise or not and whether to ever see her grandmother again or not.

My advice is for your DD is to get in first and be the "better person" and apologise in writing for the name calling of her grandmother, that it was "juvenile and that she should have known better ".

However given the incredibly horrible things the grandmother has said that will cause long lasting issues to a 15 year girl, that she stands by her decision not to see her grandmother again and will avoid family events if she is present.

I would also explain to your DH whether he wishes to side with his daughter or his mother and that you don't mind which, but you will be supporting your daughter

diddl · 20/10/2025 16:03

Why is SIL getting involved?

If MIL wants to apologise she can do.

Teeteringpiles555 · 20/10/2025 16:04

I can’t understand why your sil is trying to act as peacemaker when she witnessed what happened and her own dd was crying. How come she is defending her mum?

Agree with PP’s that your husband’s place should not be as a referee in the middle but defending his dd. He should be saying to his mother that she stepped out of line.