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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

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Diarygirlqueen · 20/10/2025 14:41

Why the hell did you let this continue until it escalated into shouting? How traumatic for your poor child.
I would never step over her doorstep again. Hell would freeze over before I let my child apologise to her.
There were three adults in that room, you all let her down.

AutumnCosy2025 · 20/10/2025 14:41

It's not your DD that needs to apologise!

Why didn't you tell her to pack it in? Right from the beginning?

its a shame that on top of it all just being so nasty, that it happened on such a lovely day for you all. I hope SIL doesn't let this affect the girls relationship. Or yours & hers.

176509user · 20/10/2025 14:41

Agree with your DD. She should not apologise as she did nothing wrong. She did well to hold her tongue as long as she did and was subjected to relentless criticism by the old witch.
It’s also understandable that she doesn’t want to see this woman again and shouldn’t be pressured to.
You are doing the right thing in encouraging her to be her true self, even if it means being a bit different. If others don’t like that then it’s tough titty.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/10/2025 14:42

You should definitely back your dd! No excuse for your MIL’s behaviour.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 20/10/2025 14:42

Well done to your daughter for standing up to the horrible old woman.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 20/10/2025 14:43

Actually, I think your DD owes an apology and was being really

OF COURSE I AM KIDDING

MiL was being really abusive and specifically personally insulting, and it sounds as though she had absolutely no reason to be after a lovely day for you all, your poor DD.

Hope your DH can talk some sense into his mum, is it too much to hope for an apology from her?

DysmalRadius · 20/10/2025 14:43

Would SIL be as keen to smooth things over if it were her daughter in the firing line?

GingerIsBest · 20/10/2025 14:43

I bet there's a long history of MIL being batshit and crazy. She sounds like a narcissistic mother (and grandmother) to me which means that your DH and SIL are probably damaged by her as well, but might not even be aware of it. SIL sounds like shes the one who puts up with a lot of her mother's nonsense for an easy life while your DH is stepping away more.

It' salso pretty much a sideways DARVO moment. Your MIL has turned herself into the victim becuase of the way your DD spoke to her, rather than accepting any responsibiltiy for her actions or words.

Personally, I'd be inclined to say taht DD (or perhaps you/ your DH) should apologise for how she spoke, BUT not brush anything under the carpet. So, "I should not have spoken to you like that and my language was unacceptable. H owever, I will no longer put up with you constantly criticising me and I do not wish to have any sort of relationship with you in the future."

But I wouldn't be killing yourself over it and perhaps it's better if your DH does it, "DD shouldn't have used that language but Mum, your behaviour was completely unacceptable and as a result I am supporting DD in her decision to no longer have a relationship with you. If you would like that to change, you will have to apologise to her and do the work to ensure you no longer treat her like a second class citizen because her choices are not your choices."

thecatfromneptune · 20/10/2025 14:43

Absolutely back your DD - what your MIL did was categorically unacceptable. That’s also a really sensitive age: I remember an adult I knew doing similar kinds of things to me around that age (a friend of my mum’s in particular who was very critical of me for no good reason), and it affected me very deeply for a long time.

As an adult one knows that someone who does this to a young teenager is either jealous or deeply spiteful, but as a teenager you take it to heart. Her grandmother is someone who she should be able to expect will protect her and love her, not attack her.

I’m very glad you’re standing with your DD, and your DH should too.

ChaToilLeam · 20/10/2025 14:43

MIL sounds bloody awful and no way should DD apologise. Was there no way you could have got DD out of there sooner? Either way, I would not be bothering with that nasty woman ever again, no matter what SIL says.

CeffylCoch · 20/10/2025 14:43

MIL should be the one to apologise

flumposie · 20/10/2025 14:44

Awful woman. I agree with your DD.

Berlinlover · 20/10/2025 14:44

I’m 100% with your daughter on this. I didn’t go to my prom thirty years ago and never regretted it, it just wasn’t my thing. The things your MIL said your daughter are appalling and unforgivable.

Meadowfinch · 20/10/2025 14:45

Why should your dd apologise if she isn't sorry?

And she shouldn't be sorry. Well done to her for standing up for herself. Such a personal attack was unforgiveable. If your MIL said all that, then she is a nasty spiteful old witch who deserves to be left to stew in her own juice.

If anyone attacked my ds17 like that, I'd go NC permanently. Such a nasty, small minded, bigoted and vindictive person is of no value, and removing her from all your lives is the only possible outcome.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/10/2025 14:45

Team DD here - she was goaded beyond endurance by her bullying grandma - well done to her for sticking up for herself!

Plugsocketrocket · 20/10/2025 14:46

I agree with your DD, your MIL is utterly toxic. In my experience one thing most toxic people have in common is they completely dodge taking responsibility.

What does your DH think?

QuietLifeNoDrama · 20/10/2025 14:46

I agree with you. Team DD all the way! Your DH is stuck in the middle as it’s his DM but you need to back your daughter here. This is a pivotal life lesson. If you make your daughter apologise you teach her that people can treat her like shit and that’s ok, she should just sit quiet and accept it.

Incidentally, would your DH have been ok with anyone speaking to his DD that way or is it ok cause she’s his DM?

CinnamonBuns67 · 20/10/2025 14:47

I'm giving your DD a virtual high five. Well done her having the confidence to stand up for herself. She definitely shouldn't ever apologise to her or see her if she doesn't wish to.

IWantThisJob · 20/10/2025 14:47

Back your daughter here no matter the consequences for your and H’s relationship with MIL. Poor girl!

Megifer · 20/10/2025 14:48

Good on your DD.

It sounds like you might owe her an apology though for letting it go on as long as it did. It shouldn't have got to the "relentless" stage.

All the adults are in the wrong here.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 20/10/2025 14:48

It'd be a cold day in hell before DD would ever be apologizing IMO.

Just one thing to look out for though, if MIL is on FB or any other social media platform then expect a cryptic post about her sadness at being "shunned" by her family and faux bewilderment at why everyone is being so nasty to her.

mumonthehill · 20/10/2025 14:50

Team DD here too and she had every right to be angry and upset at being spoken to like that by her granny who is supposed to love her. DS did not want to go to year 11 prom, we bought a ticket just in case but he did not go however he did go to yr13 prom on his own terms being himself and was ready for it, he enjoyed it but there was no pressure from anyone .

PersephonePomegranate · 20/10/2025 14:50

Wow, what a horrible woman, your poor daughter!

I'd side with DD too - she's the victim here. If other people are uncomfortable with a family division, they know who to blame for that and it's not your DD or you for not forcing her into putting up with such awful, nasty behaviour.

Your DD has absolutely nothing to apologise for, don't let her get into the mindset that she should ever apologise for something that's not her fault, just to keep the peace and make other people feel better.

mbosnz · 20/10/2025 14:50

I will always support and encourage my daughters to give an apology where one is due.

Your mil is not due an apology, and your daughter should not give one.

SIL wants everyone to get along? How about she tells her mother just how utterly appalling her behaviour was, and that she and her daughter will also not be speaking to her until she has given your daughter an apology and an undertaking never to behave in such a manner again?

Maray1967 · 20/10/2025 14:50

DysmalRadius · 20/10/2025 14:43

Would SIL be as keen to smooth things over if it were her daughter in the firing line?

Exactly.

Your DH needs to grow a spine and explain to his sister that unless their DM makes a full and genuine apology to your DD there will be no family meet ups involving DM.

He should also reassure her that you all wish to continue seeing her and DN.

And I’m another one who thinks it sounds as though MIL was allowed to go on for far too
long. You should have got your DD out of there at the first sign of it.

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