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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

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winterbluess · 20/10/2025 15:19

I'm with you're daughter too, none of business and she was being insulting!

Fwiw I didn't go to my prom either 20 years ago!

Ddakji · 20/10/2025 15:20

MIL draws first.

No apology from her, no apology from DD.

Homegrownberries · 20/10/2025 15:21

There's no coming back from that interaction. Even if you wanted to you couldn't smooth that one over. Your daughter is right.

Ashdhd · 20/10/2025 15:22

Oh my god your poor child. Her grandmother verbally abused her! If that were my MIL, I’d be out and my daughter would never have to see her again if she didn’t want to.

Your DH can do what he likes, but I’d lose respect for mine if he didn’t side with his daughter.

1dayatatime · 20/10/2025 15:22

Firstly your daughter sounds lovely and well done her for not succumbing to all the peer pressure and social media hype about prom nights and what 15 year girls should or should not look like. I have always been of the opinion that I want my daughter judged on the content of her character and personal achievements not her physical appearance.

With regards to your DD apologising to your MiL then at 15 it's ultimately up to your daughter. Personally I would recommend that she apologises in writing to your MiL for losing her self control and calling her a witch and that she should have controlled her emotions better than to throw out insults.

However on quieter reflection she stands by her words on not wishing to see her again. That she accepts that her grandmother has her own views, but expressing them in the way she did to a 15 year old girl was totally unacceptable, causing considerable harm and for that reason she never wishes to see her grandmother again and will not be present at family events if she is there.

WhatNoRaisins · 20/10/2025 15:22

I think besides anything any apology under duress from your DD to this woman would be very obviously fake to all parties. I don't see what good that would do here.

3luckystars · 20/10/2025 15:22

I would completely reframe this and be thrilled about finally having nothing more to do with this woman.

I would thank your daughter sincerely for helping you get this nasty MIL out of your life for good. I would enjoy every Christmas and family occasion without her twice as much, laughing out loud and hugging your daughter in thanks every Christmas Day from now on that you don’t ever have to be in her presence again.

DeclineandFall · 20/10/2025 15:22

Team DD here. But your DH needs to grow a pair and stand up for his daughter - to both his mother and his sister. He doesn't have to be rude. He's enabling his mother as much as his sister is. He needs to be careful he doesn't ruin his relationship with his daughter because he can't deal with his mad mother.

Dantelli · 20/10/2025 15:23

What is this "clear the air" crap from your SIL?

The air is already very clear. There is no hidden, underground bad feeling here. It is all out in the open already.

MIL dislikes your daughter, and has shown her whole arse in front of everybody by slagging her off and bullying her.

Your daughter very understandably thinks that MIL is a nasty old witch, as indeed she is, and has said so.

MIL says that you and your daughter aren't welcome. Daughter never wants to see MIL again, and I'm assuming you're probably not keen to do so either. So everyone seems to be in agreement on that point.

Everything is very clear. What does SIL hope to clarify?

I can only assume that SIL doesn't want to have to deal with the nasty old witch without a buffer zone.

Happyjoe · 20/10/2025 15:25

Thanks for supporting your daughter in any choices she makes, it's just wonderful for your daughter to have you on side. And good on your daughter, being happy with exactly who she is and I would honour her wishes. That tirade was absolutely awful and your daughter will need you to make sure no damage done. Never apologise either, there is only one person who needs to make an apology and I don't think MIL will do this.. Please send your daughter a hug from a mumsnetter.

Feelingleftoutagain · 20/10/2025 15:25

Give your daughter a big hug from me for standing up to this horrible woman, ask you SIL what if it was her daughter being attacked verbally? What would she do?

TonTonMacoute · 20/10/2025 15:26

The air won't clear unless MIL undergoes a complete personality change by the sound of it.

I would want to protect DD from ever having to see her again.

flopsyuk · 20/10/2025 15:26

Has anything else happened?

The bit from the MIL about 'wokeness' at school seemed to stick out. Does she think your DD is a lesbian or heading towards transgender maybe.

Something seemed to have pressed a button and i wonder if someone has said something to her. Gossip or in confidence. Cousin to SIL to MIL maybe?

Regardless her behaviour was abhorrent.

MagicalMystical · 20/10/2025 15:26

Of course your daughter is right. But why did you not speak up for her sooner, and remove her from the situation waaay before it got to shouting levels? I don’t understand that bit.

mbonfield · 20/10/2025 15:26

What did your partner have to say about this? This woman sounds evil. Disgraceful behaviour I would have little to do with her in the future unless she apologies and states it will never happen again.

Itiswhysofew · 20/10/2025 15:27

Blimey, what an awful grandmother. She's really blown it. She has no right to tell your DD how to exist.

No apology necessary, she retaliated having been bullied by her GM. It must have been a massive shock.

Ponderingwindow · 20/10/2025 15:27

You should praise your daughter for standing up for herself. Her grandmother is an abusive bully.

Let your daughter decide if she wants the woman to be allowed to apologize to her or not. Let your daughter decide if she wants the grandmother invited to future activities and family gatherings. If you are not hosting and don’t control the guest list, you should stay home in solidarity if she decides not to attend.

ChinaInYourHands · 20/10/2025 15:27

Your MIL’s behaviour was despicable. No child should be spoken to like that by an adult family member. Why was this allowed to get as far as it did?? The moment the comments turned from general chat into criticism of your DD, that was the point to stop it and leave. Your poor DD was backed into a corner and she had to defend herself and now she's at the centre of a family conflict that will have consequences for a lot of people.

The issue for you shouldn't be whether your DD needs to apologise or not (she doesn't), but how you and your DH will protect your DD from further harm!

Jamesblonde2 · 20/10/2025 15:28

I knew you were going to say she only liked trousers and didn’t wear makeup.

But getting to the point of the Q. MIL sounds cruel. She sounds frustrated her GD doesn’t act like a girl. Before anyone jumps on, we KNOW what that means.

Branleuse · 20/10/2025 15:29

Ive recently stopped contacting my elderly dad because he had an unprovoked rant at my adult son and then when i tried to talk to him about it and suggested he apologise, he doubled down and refused.
I think your mother in law has behaved a lot worse than my dad, and i would find it absolutely outrageous.
I think its so important that our kids know that we are on their side and that we dont have to put up with toxic shit like this.

GreyCarpet · 20/10/2025 15:29

I'm with your daughter although, as her mum, I think I'd have told nana ro fuck off and removed my daughter long before it got that far.

Your daughter doesn't need to apologise for standing up for herself.

In fact, I know I would having had to remove my children from situations with my mother.

Jeschara · 20/10/2025 15:31

Your husband should 100%back hos daughter and not be afraid of falling out with his sister, although I belive her intentions are good.

I am glad you are backing your daughter, she sounds lovely and very individual. Good on her. I hope she never apologises, and never see's that witch again.

Ponderingwindow · 20/10/2025 15:32

I just realized you were present for this incident. You need to apologize to your daughter. You should have stepped in and stopped this much earlier.

I have an evil grandmother. She is a wonderful, creative woman 95% of the time. Then a switch flips and she becomes vicious, targeting people with her words.

None of my generation let her spend any time with our children. It is our job to protect them. She gets pictures and descriptions. she doesn’t get direct contact.

caringcarer · 20/10/2025 15:33

Your DD will feel better about herself without this nasty Nana in her life trying to drag her down and undermine her confidence. I'd be staying away with my DD and let DH go on his own to visit her if he wished. I certainly would not be inviting her I to your and your DD home again. Sil must do as she pleases but not try to influence you or your DD. If she does I'd say SIL we have always got on but back off on this or we will fall out too.

Anywherebuthere · 20/10/2025 15:33

Team DD here too.

Your MIL was being a bully. The worst thing you could do is make your DD apologise to her. Stand firm for her/with her.

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