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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 20/10/2025 15:03

Back your DD.

Your MIL sounds like a horrible bully.

BunnyLake · 20/10/2025 15:03

No your dd should most definitely not apologise to this horrible excuse of a ‘nanna’. I don’t blame dd for never wanting to see her again. Please support dd she is 100% in the right.

Catwalking · 20/10/2025 15:05

What on earth does MIL think she achieves by being such an irrational vicious bitch?
I hope your lovely DD feels better really soon 🙂💐

OriginalSkang · 20/10/2025 15:05

MIL would have got one sentence out about my DD before I told her to shut the fuck up.

Dollymylove · 20/10/2025 15:05

I'm with your daughter. No way should she apologise to that witch and nor should you have anything to do with her ever again
I personally hate this school prom malarkey, its now a competition who has the best dress, nails, hair who arrives in the most elaborate vehicle. Once in my town someone arrived in a helicopter.
It should be banned imho 😡

J3001 · 20/10/2025 15:05

Well done to your Dd

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 20/10/2025 15:06

“Why should she apologise? You said she was too quiet so she spoke up. Now that’s not good enough for you either?”

I’d be telling MIL that DD won’t be apologising and you won’t be seeing her again. And if you have other children I wouldn’t allow her to see those either.

Cornishclio · 20/10/2025 15:06

That’s horrible and I wouldn’t expose your DD to your MIL again. I don’t blame your SIL for trying to pour oil over troubled waters but truly this woman sounds awful. I think I would avoid her completely. Let DH do as he wishes

NessShaness · 20/10/2025 15:06

Team DD.

What a nasty woman your MIL is.

OriginalSkang · 20/10/2025 15:06

Genevieva · 20/10/2025 14:59

It sounds like they would both do well to apologise to each other, so that they can repair their relationship. That means your MiL apologising first and your daughter responding by saying she is sorry she lost it. Then your MiL telling her not to worry and that it was her fault for getting upset, that she just wants you daughter to have lovely experiences and not miss out. Basically, there needs to be good will on both sides and your MiL needs to model that and tell your daughter that she loves her.

But she clearly doesn't? So that seems a very unlikely situation.

Onekidnoclue · 20/10/2025 15:06

Nasty old witch isn’t something to apologise for! She was being nasty. She is old! I guess witch could be seen as an insult but an incredibly mild one given the abusive provocation.
your daughter is fantastic and an inspiration to everyone who should stand up to bullies.
I would have a word with her that aTINY bit of her moral high ground has been lost due to names callinG which is understandable as a teen but not great as an adult. Otherwise crack the fuck on and MIL can do one.

BlackCoffeeAndSugar · 20/10/2025 15:06

Yanbu

PurpleThistle7 · 20/10/2025 15:07

Your daughter sounds wonderful and your MIL sounds terrible. Easy choice here.

I think it's brilliant that your daughter can do her own thing AND support her family to do what they like to do! Going dress shopping isn't her thing, but it's her cousin's thing so she went to support her. How lovely she sounds :-)

My daughter isn't a huge conformist and definitely has her own style (about to go to the gym at any time is the look) and I would lose my * if anyone spoke to her like that. How ridiculous and what a nonsensical reason to break up a family.

But there's really no going back from this unfortunately and it's time to protect your daughter.

Jo7890123 · 20/10/2025 15:08

Its a shame your DH doesn't feel that he should support you and his DD by letting his mother know she was completely out if order (but it sounds ds as if he's been complicit in some v poor behaviour from her for a long time...so that was always unlikely...).
Id tell him that he can obviously visit his mother by himself in future, but that you and DD won't be speaking to, or seeing her again.

OriginalUsername2 · 20/10/2025 15:08

My stomach dropped reading that. I think I would have smacked her 😬

BnuchOfCnuts · 20/10/2025 15:09

Genevieva · 20/10/2025 14:59

It sounds like they would both do well to apologise to each other, so that they can repair their relationship. That means your MiL apologising first and your daughter responding by saying she is sorry she lost it. Then your MiL telling her not to worry and that it was her fault for getting upset, that she just wants you daughter to have lovely experiences and not miss out. Basically, there needs to be good will on both sides and your MiL needs to model that and tell your daughter that she loves her.

What fresh hell?

Why should OP’s daughter be sorry she lost it?

It doesn’t sound like the MIL loves her granddaughter at all. It sounds quite the opposite.

Lurkingandlearning · 20/10/2025 15:10

When SIL says she would like your dd to apologise just to appease her mother ask her if she would feel the same if it was her daughter. As she didn’t speak up when her daughter was in tears because of her mother’s appalling behaviour then perhaps she would allow her daughter to be verbally attacked. She’s wrong and a coward. Nasty bullies like MIL depend on cowardice. your DH needs reminding of that too

TheaBrandt1 · 20/10/2025 15:11

Back your Dd. How rude and cruel the older woman is. Dreadful.

We had a minor version MiL twittering on about how much then 14 year old dd ate at Christmas dinner. Eventually Dd asked “are you trying to fat shame me granny?”. Totally shut her down.

AngryLikeHades · 20/10/2025 15:12

Americano75 · 20/10/2025 14:33

I'm with your daughter. What an old witch.

I 100% agree.
Your MIL is vile!!!
I had this criticism all my life growing up from people, my mum, dad and bro all said exactly the comments your MIL said and it was very damaging.
How dare she needlessly criticise a child that has done nothing wrong!
It will be less harmful than what I had said to me because it isn't coming from you and you've made it so it doesn't continue.
I totally agree that your DD shouldn't apologise and the downright strange assertion from your MIL that she didn't want to see her at Christmas is both an over-reaction and bizarrely immature.

BippidyBoppety · 20/10/2025 15:13

I wonder what the MIL's objective was?

To continue with the constant comments despite being asked to stop, despite seeing she's caused upset? Is the MIL subject to causing drama?

I'd keep the DD (and, OP, yourself) away from this woman. Your DH can do as he wishes (try not to influence him either way) but I bet he and his Mum will be having this same conversation for ever! MIL will be the victim, she'll see her remarks as "helpful", as "constructive criticism" and not the laying on of a load os snark to a teenager.

Christmas is a couple of months off yet, stay under the radar, let's see how the MIL copes with the silence from you, OP, and your DD. And let's see how your DH handles things. But - no apology from your DD is the way to go.

MaurineWayBack · 20/10/2025 15:16

Genevieva · 20/10/2025 14:59

It sounds like they would both do well to apologise to each other, so that they can repair their relationship. That means your MiL apologising first and your daughter responding by saying she is sorry she lost it. Then your MiL telling her not to worry and that it was her fault for getting upset, that she just wants you daughter to have lovely experiences and not miss out. Basically, there needs to be good will on both sides and your MiL needs to model that and tell your daughter that she loves her.

In a situation like this, you dint ‘repair the relationship’ ie smooth over things and forget about it.

You put boundaries up. You expect MIL to change (which by the sounds of it isn’t going to happen) and not EVER do a remark to the dd or treat her differently . And if Thetes no change possible, you protect yourself.

No way shpuld the dd be told to aplogise and smooth over things. For the sake of what? The image of ‘the nice family’? At which cost? The dd self esteem, her agency and her right to not be bullied by an adult?

Brefugee · 20/10/2025 15:16

your DD is 15 and can decide for herself if she wants to apologise or not. She is old enough to decide if she wants to see her paternal grandmother at any time and on what terms.

What does your DH say? In your shoes, i would ask him to explain to his mother that your DDs reaction and outburst was the culmination of years of his mother's carping, and that MIL should have a good long look at herself and ask her if she really means to be so nasty to one of her granddaughters.

Then i would leave it at that. Decide on a case-by-case basis if she goes with you to see MIL, and if you ever decide to have MIL to your house, then your DD can decide if she wants to be there or not. And help facilitate the not, if that is her decision.

thestudio · 20/10/2025 15:17

Remind your SIL that DD was pushed beyond forebearance and finally responded. But even if she'd been far more unpleasant, the two 'bad behaviours' are absolutely not equal because DD is a CHILD.

MIL - an adult attacking a child in an incredibly hurtful way. An emotional abuser, essentially.
DD - a child doing her very best not to hit back but finally pushed to it.

Ask her what she'd feel if her own DD had been on the receiving end of that.

Also - it's just nothing to do with SIL! Tell her she's enabling her own mother, likely because of FOG.

SandAndSea · 20/10/2025 15:17

Team daughter here.

People like your MIL behave as they do because of people like your SIL and DH (trained up from an early age by her).

I don't think your daughter did anything wrong. She defended herself in a very difficult environment.

WaltzingWaters · 20/10/2025 15:18

Absolutely back your DD 100%. The only person who owes an apology is MIL. What a nasty vile piece of work. Good on your DD for standing up for herself after the witch wouldn’t let things go.