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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

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Popcornready · 21/10/2025 18:59

100% backing your dd, I would be doing the same ( I am doing the same my dc have a very difficult relationship with mil I refuse to force a relationship that she destroyed)

pinkbackground · 21/10/2025 19:03

Another vote for siding with your daughter.

landlordhell · 21/10/2025 19:07

Bloody hell what a miserable witch! Your Dd was provoked and is a teenager. Your mil should k ow better. I’m with your DD. MIL is the one who should apologise .
Have to ask why you didn’t speak up immediately and leave.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/10/2025 19:21

landlordhell
Have to ask why you didn’t speak up immediately and leave.

That one's easy: she did. The only reason they were still in the house for the Mil to continue her diatribe was that it took DD a while to do up the laces on her boots, and MiL pursued them into the hall to carry on bad-mouthing her grand-daughter.

When the MiL really kicked off, as opposed to snidey little snipes about DD's clothes, hair and so on, the OP was not in the room.

Shellyshep · 21/10/2025 19:21

But where was your voice in all of this? Your SIL tried to stop her mother, your DN was crying yet you only said you thought it was time to leave after your MIL had verbally attacked your daughter? I’m sorry but if my Mum had stood by and let my Nan pick on me like that I would be furious with her too

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/10/2025 19:23

Shellyshep · 21/10/2025 19:21

But where was your voice in all of this? Your SIL tried to stop her mother, your DN was crying yet you only said you thought it was time to leave after your MIL had verbally attacked your daughter? I’m sorry but if my Mum had stood by and let my Nan pick on me like that I would be furious with her too

You do know that if you click on "see all" at the bottom of OP's post at the top of every page, you can then see all the posts OP has made on the thread?

She answered that question yesterday.

YumYa · 21/10/2025 19:24

MIL sounds unhinged.

I think I'd be nc from her.

Nomdejeur · 21/10/2025 19:28

Now, I don’t agree with your mil, she sounds horrific, but try and persuade your daughter to go. Sometimes children need a little nudge, my DD did. She didn’t want to go to prom, she didn’t want a fuss, didn’t want the dress, she’s quiet and studious and only had one friend. In the end we encouraged her and she had a whale of a time. Sometimes children need a little help to step outside their comfort zone.

shuggles · 21/10/2025 19:28

Sharptonguedwoman · 21/10/2025 18:36

Are you ok?

Did you reply to the wrong comment?

Justgorgeous · 21/10/2025 19:29

Nasty old 🧙‍♀️! Your daughter is right.

PruthePrune · 21/10/2025 19:31

@EdithBond

Take the moral high ground and apologise to MIL, are you for real?
DD has obviously tolerated MIL's jibes for a long time and reached her breaking point. There is only one person that should be apologising at it isnt OP's DD.

ThisZanyPinkSquid · 21/10/2025 19:37

Well done to your daughter 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 being 15 and confident to speak up to a toxic family member took courage!! Well done her!!

As for MIL. She doesn’t deserve an apology for anything! She was vile and toxic and deserves to stew in her own toxicity!

Husband can continue to do his duty as a son but doesn’t mean you or daughter have to be there 🤷🏼‍♀️ Speak to your husband and nae it clear you are sticking with daughter in this but it won’t effect his relationship with his mum or sister. Speak to SIL also and say that you are sticking with daughter but have no issues with her and appreciate SIL attempting to stop it also!

SIL is trying to keep the peace for herself but not at the cost of you and your daughters peace!

EdithBond · 21/10/2025 19:41

PruthePrune · 21/10/2025 19:31

@EdithBond

Take the moral high ground and apologise to MIL, are you for real?
DD has obviously tolerated MIL's jibes for a long time and reached her breaking point. There is only one person that should be apologising at it isnt OP's DD.

I understand your pov. We can agree to disagree 🙏

But IMHO it’s not OK to be abusive, even on the basis of being provoked. It’s what abusive people often say: “you provoked me/deserved it”. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Buffs · 21/10/2025 19:47

MIL is clearly an old witch and so there is nothing to apologize for. I would also respect your daughter’s wish not to see her if she doesn’t want to.

CommonAsMucklowe · 21/10/2025 19:54

100% I would back your daughter. That old hag can do one.

Tortielady · 21/10/2025 19:56

@PurpleThistle7

I think it's brilliant that your daughter can do her own thing AND support her family to do what they like to do! Going dress shopping isn't her thing, but it's her cousin's thing so she went to support her. How lovely she sounds :-)

I had the same thought. When I was 15, (probably around the same time Nasty Grandma was) we didn't have prom, but we had other special events to dress up for. I had a much more conventionally feminine look than the OP's DD, but I found clothes shopping an ordeal and would decamp to a book or record shop if at all possible and leave my family to it. The OP's DD is a little gem and deserves credit for being so mature and supportive. NG should be ashamed of herself.

Goddessoftheearth · 21/10/2025 19:59

OP your DD sounds like a legend. Good on her for knowing her own mind and sticking to it 🙌🏻

Julimia · 21/10/2025 20:17

What has your daughter to apologise for? Absolutely nothing. Tell her , if not already done, you are with her, nothing to apologise for and just leave it at that. Leave MIL to think of a way out...she started it.

Fireflybaby · 21/10/2025 20:20

Definitely no need for DD to apologise to MIL. I agree with DD , she does sound like a nasty old witch and she should start controlling herself around the other GC before she loses them all...
Your DD absolutely has a right to choose her own style of clothing and if she wants to go to prom or not. Just because she was supportive to her cousin doesn't mean she changed her mind. And even if she does change her mind in none of MIL business how she dresses. And yo put your DD down on looks that's absolutely vile and I wouldn't want to talk or see her again either. MIL is the one who should apologise and DH should be right behind you supporting you both..
My child decided they wanted to go to prom in a suit and a bra and they did, with short hair and everything. They looked amazing. And they felt amazing too. Had their best time and I always taught them to never conform with the fashion just because everyone else does. Be you, express yourself, buy things because you like them not because others expect you to... stay strong, im with your daughter and you.

millymae · 21/10/2025 20:20

With your daughter every step of the way. She has absolutely nothing to apologise for.
MIL on the other hand should be on her knees begging for forgiveness.
It’s all very well SIL wanting everyone to kiss and make up - I bet she wouldn’t be quite so keen if her daughter had been the subject of MIL’s character assassination.

Mumwithbaggage · 21/10/2025 20:23

Team your daughter. My MIL is an old witch too. She has 7 grandchildren. DS is the only one to get married (though evilsil's kids are much older). MIL not invited because she's always been vile to me and decided to go NC years ago. Her loss. You can't choose your relatives. If you could, I certainly wouldn't have chosen them!!

FlorenceB19 · 21/10/2025 20:26

Octonaut4Life · 20/10/2025 14:36

No way should DD apologise unless and until her nan presents the first apology. It sounds like awful bullying behavior and you're absolutely right to support your daughter.

💯 % in agreement.

MIL is totally in the wrong & way out of order. Your DD is entirely entitled to how she feels & has the right to decide to cut her ties. In fact you both are right to stand your ground & allowing your husband to do as he pleases, shows your emotional intelligence 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I'm sorry it's come to this but some people are toxic & cutting ties is the best solution to avoid future heartaches. 🫶🏼

Ladymeade · 21/10/2025 20:28

Team DD

Bloozie · 21/10/2025 20:35

You're absolutely right to support your daughter, I hope your husband does too - what I don't understand is why your sil wants the peace reinstored?

It's not her daughter that has legitimate beef with granny, and you've said you're not geographically near each other. Your sil sounds like a reasonable woman who is well aware what her mother is like, and she stuck up for your daughter. Your daughter and her daughter are still on good terms, and I assume you and your sil are too.

On what grounds does she thing your daughter should say sorry, other than generic 'bad feelings are bad' vibes? Because surely she can see that the bad feelings are entirely justified and it is her mother that should be apologising?

Falseknock · 21/10/2025 20:54

I would side with your DD and if she has to see her again. Tell her to show the same respect/contempt she shows you and your daughter.

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