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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

OP posts:
WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 20/10/2025 18:53

Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 17:23

Some useful ideas for things to potentially respond with as well, thank you. I am inclined to let dh deal with it all as I truly am done with mil, there have been many little things over the years but this time was just too far. I don’t want any contact with her at all.

I suppose I’m conflicted because sil is now the one having to deal with mil and previously the crazy was divided up a bit. She maybe didn’t see quite so much of the nastiness as her eldest dd (now away at uni) was the first and golden gc. Prom niece is now more available and also very pretty, so a lot of this has been transferred to her I guess. Sil doesn’t deserve to be left dealing with her mother but I guess she also has a choice. I will certainly make sure she knows that dd and I love her and niece, and they are not to blame for what happened.

Dh has been busy all day anyway but tends to bury his head in the sand. Mil just isn’t on his radar a lot of the time. Suddenly he’s getting messages and calls where he would rather not be dragged into it. I can see that he needs to be the one to call it all out now, I am hoping that some of these responses might help that. When you’re caught up in the heat of it all it’s sometimes hard to see clearly.

Please don't let feeling guilty that you'd be leaving SIL to deal with the brunt of it affect what you choose to do. She probably feels more FOG, because she is the daughter of an ageing parent, and looking after them tends to fall to us, but in truth she is just as free as the rest of you to handle her mother's behaviour as she sees fit, up to and including cutting contact and washing her hands of her. If she chooses to try to maintain a relationship with her mother, she can do that - you and your family will see SIL and cousins without MIL, and she can see MIL without you.

I would do what I can to support her, especially since she had your DD's back so well. I would encourage her to not let herself become a flying monkey, and refuse to pass on any messages either way. Request that she politely declines to update MIL about your family if she asks, and promise that you and your family stay off the subject of MIL when you speak to them. Offer to be there for her to let off steam or to process her feelings, if you feel up to it and if she wants.

DH must work out how to navigate his own relationship with his mother, but I suggest you and DD give him the same set of guidelines.

evertriedeverfailed · 20/10/2025 18:54

Like @strawgoh - amazing self-control by your daughter.

She sounds great - I'm impressed she sees through all that stuff, if she knows she wouldn't enjoy it. There will undoubtedly be other things that she would really, really enjoy spending the equivalent to the dress money on.

SliceofTosst · 20/10/2025 18:58

Dd all the way. She knows what she wants and trying to change it to make her feel uncomfortable by bullying is a no.

Be proud of her not following the crowd she doesn't want to be part of.

Anyahyacinth · 20/10/2025 18:59

Your daughter sounds lovely. Attacked by a grown woman who should love and protect her. Sounds ghastly and cruel. THIS is not family - it’s character assassination and bullying. Please let your daughter know how is she is is perfect and it’s her Grandparent who is deeply profoundly ugly

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/10/2025 19:01

If it wasn’t for sil also being upset I would walk away and never look back. Sil is lovely and I think both she and dh have put up with a lot. Fil died some years back now. I suspect sil can see that if we cut ties, she will be stuck with the baggage now

I suspect you're spot on with that last sentence, OP, but what SIL "puts up with" is up to her and she doesn't get to pile that onto you

I believe you're doing the right thing in making it clear to SIL/DN that you love them and don't blame them - especially as SIL was shouting "enough" - but also agree that the key point is to keep your DD away from this toxicity. She's at a good age to learn the way to deal with tthis kind of thing, and your example will be important

XWKD · 20/10/2025 19:01

Your daughter is wonderful! Well done to her!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/10/2025 19:06

Your DH has to realise that there is no way back. His DM has nothing but contempt for your DD. There is no love there, and she enjoys picking DD apart and belittling her. Any apologies on either side will never change that dynamic. MIL does not like DD. DH needs to face this fact and protect his daughter

Agree with this too, @considertheravens; mewling about being "stuck in the middle" is all very well - and often code for just wanting an easy life - but it's time now to man up and put his DD first

I'm usually of the view that family rows are best left to blow over, but not when it involves sustained personal attacks like this. MIL needs telling, and if none of them want to do it then the consequences are theirs to bear

Mothership4two · 20/10/2025 19:08

Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

Absolutely not! MIL should apologise not DD but that's obviously not going to happen. DH should be putting DD first and speaking up for her. If any family member behaved like that towards my DC, we would be avoiding them from then on, unless there was a very good (ie medical) reason

WearyAuldWumman · 20/10/2025 19:09

"Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. "

Seems completely reasonable to me. This 65 yr old crone is firmly with team DD.

Lucyccfc68 · 20/10/2025 19:10

crivit · 20/10/2025 17:55

Since a looooong time ago. A pagan, specifically someone who practises witchcraft.

Some pagans practised witchcraft, but not all. Some people who practised witchcraft did so as a secular craft.

Amazing what info you can find with a bit of googling.

It’s all a bit Hans Christian Anderson to be honest and it’s a great insult calling someone a witch.

ilovemydogandmrobama2 · 20/10/2025 19:10

Another vote for Team DD.

No of course she shouldn't apologise and going forward it's up to your DH to deal with his mom. Sounds as if he's let you bear the brunt of her personality, probably making excuses for it.

Weird how triggered MIL is about your DD - I get that some people find it difficult to connect, but she was viscous towards a child.

Personally wouldn't put any barriers between what SIL says about MIL to you, but keep it neutral making sure she understands there will not be apology forthcoming, while also balancing SIL feeling that she needs to be the peacemaker.

Poor DD Sad

Jadetheobscure1989 · 20/10/2025 19:15

As someone who grew up constantly torn to pieces by an awful grandmother I completely agree with your daughter. I wouldn't make her apologise, and would fully support her going NC.

Booboobagins · 20/10/2025 19:17

Proud of your DD for sticking up for herself.

Your DD shouldn't need to spend anytime with anyone who's toxic and neither should her cousin or you.

Hope she knows nothing your Mil said is true. x

Nestingbirds · 20/10/2025 19:17

Jesus Christ my dd would never ever go to mils house ever again. Mil is an abuser and would never be allowed near my dd ever again.

Isitreallythough · 20/10/2025 19:18

Yanbu. Absolute best MIL deserves is to be heard if she chooses to apologise, but it’s up to your dd if she wants to have anything more to do with her even then

Nestingbirds · 20/10/2025 19:18

And nor should she have to go to the prom. She can celebrate the end of school in a way she wants to.

Ferrissia3 · 20/10/2025 19:19

What do you do now?! You show your child you have their back. I think it's outrageous that you are even asking this question to be honest.

Longdarkcloud · 20/10/2025 19:19

Toxic relationship that deserves NC. Do reassure your daughter that nothing her grandmother said is tru, because some of the insults are bound to affect her. A lot of us women are not into conventionally “girly” activities or interests, loathe the American idea of a prom etc. and who go on to have successful lives with partners who also aren’t into that sort of thing. DD sounds like a delightful young woman and she and her cousin are more mature than grandma because they are able to accept each other for what they and enjoy each others interests.
Enjoy organising family occasions without your MIL

MMUmum · 20/10/2025 19:21

If your Dd turned into a beautiful ultra feminine princess overnight, with boys queuing up to take her to prom, your mil would be thrilled and say that Dd had seen sense and taken her advice. She is furious that she can't control Dd and make her comform to her outdated principles. Well done you for raising such a strong independent young woman, and well done Dd for being that young woman, it's a tough world, all power to you and none to your nanna 😅

Goldbar31 · 20/10/2025 19:22

100% with you and your daughter.
P.S, your DD sounds super cool!

humptydumptyfelloff · 20/10/2025 19:28

Your mil has behaved like an absolute rude nasty twat towards your daughter.

I would be telling your dh that he needs to be with you and dd in this one or it’s not going to be pretty for him.

I would send her a text calling her out on her shitty behaviour and personal attack on her grandchild and tell her that unless she apologises properly in person to your dd she will no longer be welcome in your home at any time.

ask your dh if he would accept a non family member behai g towards his child like that?

if dh doesn’t like it he can always move in with the nasty bitch

ZXZXZ6789 · 20/10/2025 19:30

Dh is stuck wanting to protect everyone

then you say

Dh has been busy all day anyway but tends to bury his head in the sand.

So which is it??

Though tbh, the only one he should be thinking about is his daughter. Full respect to her for putting up with so much and then quite rightly letting the rude, ignorant and cruel woman have it both barrels

My mum was similar to my daughter and to my eternal chagrin I never stuck up for her as much as I should. They have no relationship, and now M is trying it on with playing favourites with the next generation, who won't put up with it thank goodness.

Londonismyjam · 20/10/2025 19:34

Baggingarea · 20/10/2025 17:54

Yanbu... the younger generation dont put up with s**t like we did. Sooner the old folks realise that, the better!

Oh please…like a PP (fab user name PrissyGalore) I am also probably the same age as the MIL and I think she sounds awful and OP’s DD sounds amazing. Totally team DD. So stop with the lazy stereotypes.

RocketLollyPolly · 20/10/2025 19:35

I wonder how your DH would feel if your daughter is treated this way by a future partner? Would he make her apologise or would he be proud of her for sticking up for herself and tell her not to look back? Just because MIL is an old lady doesn’t make it ok.

Hmmmmwineandchocs · 20/10/2025 19:37

Americano75 · 20/10/2025 14:33

I'm with your daughter. What an old witch.

Agree, let your daughter decide their relationship and keep standing by her.