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To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?

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Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 14:31

Dd15 is adamant that she doesn’t want to go to prom next summer. Dh and I have always said it’s her choice, she can decide later once tickets are out, and she can wear whatever she prefers. We’re really not at all bothered either way. She is quiet and introverted but can be very black and white with some opinions. She generally keeps these to herself but if she really cares about something, will speak up.

This weekend her cousin, also 15, went for a prom dress appointment and invited dd and me along with sil. The cousins are great friends and dniece had said she knew dd wasn’t interested in prom, but she wanted her opinion and dd agreed happily. We had a nice day out and dniece picked a lovely dress, we had lunch, it was all good. That afternoon we all went back to mil’s house as the dress shop was in the town where she lives. The dress and prom was talked about which was to be expected, but mil then kept on and on about dd not going, not picking a dress, and it turned into an attack on dd for being quiet, having few friends, being boring, not being as pretty and feminine as her cousin, criticising her choice of clothes and hairstyle, it was relentless. Sil told her to stop and cousin was also crying.

Dd was very upset so I said I thought we would best leave, but mil carried on, literally as we’re getting shoes on, that no one would care if dd was there or not, saying she was brainwashed by the woke nonsense in schools now, and that dd would never have a boyfriend if she carried on looking and behaving the way she did. Dd exploded and called her a nasty old witch and that she hated her and never wanted to see her again. Mil was screaming back that dd and I weren’t welcome anyway, and we left her hollering.

This is not the first time mil has been critical of dd but definitely the worst. In the past we’ve been able to shield dd from it but as she gets older, it’s obvious that other gc are favoured. Dd likes shorter hair, trousers, doesn’t use makeup, is quite academic. She likes what she likes and is quite happy with who she is.
Mil isn’t sliding into dementia, she’s just a critical miserable creature. She has always been like this. She called dh to complain about dd before we even got home and has demanded an apology.

Anyway dd is now saying she doesn’t want to see her again, not at Christmas, not at anything. She won’t apologise and honestly, I agree with her. Cousin was shocked and also has said she doesn’t want to be around her again, but sil is trying to get everyone to clear the air. It just feels like finally a lot of things have been said that were rumbling in the background and if mil wants to be rid of dd, then let her. I just feel incredibly sad that this has all blown up on a day that was really lovely for dniece. I know sil wants everyone to get along but this feels like it’s gone too far now. Dh is stuck between agreeing with dd and not wanting to fight with his sister.

What do I do now? I would have no problem with never seeing mil again. Dh can do whatever he sees fit. I don’t see how I can force dd to apologise and I’m not prepared to put her in the firing line again. Aibu for saying dd will not apologise?

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WhereYouLeftIt · 20/10/2025 17:36

Good on your daughter, that took guts. I'd be very proud of her (as you are).

Nope, MIL can swivel for an apology. She should be the one apologising anyway. I'd happily never see her again.

The only problem is SIL, and how this will affect her. She is likely in FOG to her mother, as is your husband - hence him sticking his head in the sand. It's much harder for them to cut the old witch out, much as she deserves it and much as it would do SIL and DH good to do so. All you can do is maintain your relationship with SIL and DNs, but don't be drawn back into the witch's clutches!

BellissimoGecko · 20/10/2025 17:38

No way should your dd apologise. The poor girl. That must have been terrible for her.

your h can see his mum if he wants, but I’d be staying well away if I were you.

crivit · 20/10/2025 17:43

Like pretty much everyone on the thread I'm team DD, except for one thing. She, and many people on this thread, need to stop using 'witch' as an insult. Using it as an insult like that is hateful; you are encouraging the hatred of someone on the basis of a religion.

BauhausOfEliott · 20/10/2025 17:44

Your DD sounds fabulous. Your MIL is a cunt.

I would absolutely respect your DD's choice not to apologise and not to see her grandmother again. SIL and DH can do what they like, but they shouldn't be making your DD do a damn thing.

ManchesterGirl2 · 20/10/2025 17:45

Absolutely put your DD first here. Support her in going no contact.

I'd also try to be understanding of your DH and SIL however they react. They've grown up with a mother who was likely emotional abusive to them, that can leave very deep scars and can make it hard to make rational choices about the abuser.

KnitFastDieWarm · 20/10/2025 17:46

Your DD has nothing to apologise for. MIL will just have to accept that if you criticise and belittle someone and make them cry, they are likely to retaliate. Most people learn that age around 4, seems like MIL is a little behind…

justasking111 · 20/10/2025 17:46

Id be posting her one of these masks to improve her looks and a bottle of wart treatment

To back teen dd not apologising to her nana?
BauhausOfEliott · 20/10/2025 17:47

crivit · 20/10/2025 17:43

Like pretty much everyone on the thread I'm team DD, except for one thing. She, and many people on this thread, need to stop using 'witch' as an insult. Using it as an insult like that is hateful; you are encouraging the hatred of someone on the basis of a religion.

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CountryGirlInTheCity · 20/10/2025 17:48

Your DH needs to come out in firm support of your DD. He needs to tell MIL in no uncertain terms that her behaviour was outrageous, rude and deeply unkind and that if anyone needs to make an apology it’s her. He needs to show his unwavering support of both of you. There can be no ‘Oh well that’s just mum’ or not liking the conflict so trying to smooth things out so her bahavikur goes unaddressed. He really needs to nail his colours to the mast and step up. Please don’t give him any wriggle room for sidestepping this one. It lands very firmly in the ‘responsibility of a decent husband and father’ court. If he hasn’t done it before this is now his moment!

KnitFastDieWarm · 20/10/2025 17:49

Was MIL one of the ‘popular’ girls at school? I bet you anything she was slagging off alternative girls in her class back in the day. She’s a bully.

CountryGirlInTheCity · 20/10/2025 17:50

ManchesterGirl2 · 20/10/2025 17:45

Absolutely put your DD first here. Support her in going no contact.

I'd also try to be understanding of your DH and SIL however they react. They've grown up with a mother who was likely emotional abusive to them, that can leave very deep scars and can make it hard to make rational choices about the abuser.

I’d agree that it’s good to be understanding about the background, however sometimes the adults in the room simply have to step up. Sounds like SIL did that. Now it’s DH’s turn!

Lucyccfc68 · 20/10/2025 17:51

crivit · 20/10/2025 17:43

Like pretty much everyone on the thread I'm team DD, except for one thing. She, and many people on this thread, need to stop using 'witch' as an insult. Using it as an insult like that is hateful; you are encouraging the hatred of someone on the basis of a religion.

Since when was a witch related to a religion. Sorry, but a witch is the same concept as a fairy. It’s just stories and fairy tales.

Fifiesta · 20/10/2025 17:51

100% your Mother In Law behaved abominably.
It is not your daughter that should be apologising.
I think I would have to write her a short carefully worded letter, pointing out all the ways she was at fault, so she couldn’t re write history and cause problems in the family later, I would save the letter and be prepared show it to other family members if it is raised in the future.
However, you are not me and you are supporting your daughter, who should definitely
not change her style or choices to please this very nasty, self absorbed woman.

JustSawJohnny · 20/10/2025 17:52

I'd speak to sister in law and make it clear that your role is to protect DD, not keep the peace in the family, especially after and MIL treated her own grandD so poorly.

I bet she wouldn't put up with her Mum speaking to her DD like that!

I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities to spend time with her/Dniece & the rest of the family away from MIL.

If SIL wants to pander to her mother that's her problem but neither you or DD have to.

Your DH needs to step up for his DD and put his mother straight.

What a vile old bag! She'd get an apology over my dead body.

therewasafishinthepercolator · 20/10/2025 17:54

Of course your DD shouldn't apologise! Or be in the same room as her.

Mil was beyond cruel. I can't imagine hearing all that at 15 and from someone who is supposed to love you.

I wouldn't have anything further to do with mil. Forget her. She's burnt her bridges.

Focus on your daughter and picking her up again. I hope she's ok.

Baggingarea · 20/10/2025 17:54

Yanbu... the younger generation dont put up with s**t like we did. Sooner the old folks realise that, the better!

NotNormally · 20/10/2025 17:54

Why on earth would your dd need to apologise?!

I would never, ever put my dd in the same space as this horrible woman again. I would make it very clear to dd that I was 100% on Team DD and I’d say to dh that even if mil apologised there is no way that we could go back to before and that means never, ever seeing mil without dh there.

Your sil is very sweet for trying to kee the peace but I’d call her separately and say “if you were me, there is no way you’d risk exposing your child to such a cruel, damaging and truly pointless attack

crivit · 20/10/2025 17:55

Lucyccfc68 · 20/10/2025 17:51

Since when was a witch related to a religion. Sorry, but a witch is the same concept as a fairy. It’s just stories and fairy tales.

Since a looooong time ago. A pagan, specifically someone who practises witchcraft.

ARichtGoodDram · 20/10/2025 17:55

I'd simply say to your SIL that you appreciate she's in a difficult position, but she would not accept anyone speaking to her daughters like that so you'll not be accepting it either.

Noshadelamp · 20/10/2025 17:55

Teenpromdrama · 20/10/2025 17:23

Some useful ideas for things to potentially respond with as well, thank you. I am inclined to let dh deal with it all as I truly am done with mil, there have been many little things over the years but this time was just too far. I don’t want any contact with her at all.

I suppose I’m conflicted because sil is now the one having to deal with mil and previously the crazy was divided up a bit. She maybe didn’t see quite so much of the nastiness as her eldest dd (now away at uni) was the first and golden gc. Prom niece is now more available and also very pretty, so a lot of this has been transferred to her I guess. Sil doesn’t deserve to be left dealing with her mother but I guess she also has a choice. I will certainly make sure she knows that dd and I love her and niece, and they are not to blame for what happened.

Dh has been busy all day anyway but tends to bury his head in the sand. Mil just isn’t on his radar a lot of the time. Suddenly he’s getting messages and calls where he would rather not be dragged into it. I can see that he needs to be the one to call it all out now, I am hoping that some of these responses might help that. When you’re caught up in the heat of it all it’s sometimes hard to see clearly.

How on earth is your dh burying his head in the sand when someone has verbally and viciously attacked and bullied his own DD?

saraclara · 20/10/2025 17:56

I'd speak to sister in law and make it clear that your role is to protect DD, not keep the peace in the family, especially after and MIL treated her own grandD so poorly.
I bet she wouldn't put up with her Mum speaking to her DD like that!

She didn't put up with her Mum speaking to OP's DD like that, either! She did the brave thing (for someone who's had a lifetime of trying to appease a mother like that) and confronted her mother at the time. Which is more than OP did (on her own admission) @JustSawJohnny .

She will want this all to be over for her own daughter's sake. Which is also understandable.

RealEagle · 20/10/2025 17:57

Good on your daughter !

CoffeeCantata · 20/10/2025 17:58

Octoberthewhatnow · 20/10/2025 14:39

I’m totally with your DD. Your MIL sounds vile. She should be the one apologising, not your DD.

Actually I don’t think an apology would fix this. She sounds evil. To criticise anyone for those reasons is awful, but to do it to your granddaughter.

Your daughter sounds like an independent minded young woman(rather like mine was!) and deserves all the support you can give her.

What a horrible, horrible woman.

JustSawJohnny · 20/10/2025 18:01

Sil doesn’t deserve to be left dealing with her mother but I guess she also has a choice.

Exactly. She does have the choice and it's not your fault if she feels like she can't distance herself.

Your priority has to be DD because if you sweep this under the carpet in any way your DD will remember it.

Her Nana has already deeply hurt her. You and DH need to be incredibly careful that your inaction doesn't make it worse.

It would be cruel to not speak up and stand up for her now, especially against that demon!

DH needs to find his spine and fast!

FofB · 20/10/2025 18:03

Your daughter sounds awesome.

But really, come on- you KNOW that both of you need to stand up for her. There are times in my life that were dreadful because my Father was weak. He didn't have the guts to stand up for me when I faced the most terrible verbal abuse as a child.