To think people are naive re cocaine

[Knockonw00d]

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

Oh honestly you sound ridiculous. This is why nobody close to you will ever have an honest talk about drug use. Your moralising makes no difference. Nobody cares about what the law says. It said you cant rape your wife within my lifetime.

Oh fgs how stupid can you be. Clearly the point of AML training sailed completely over your head. I'm not going to waste time explaining it.

What is your problem with anything that I've said? You're irrationally angry with me. Is it because I said people who do coke are twats?

Why would you think any training will stop people taking drugs? It's just so silly.

I don’t want you to explain it because it’s a fucking stupid idea either way 😭 you place a bizarre importance on employees mandatory training. Now that is naive

Another one who if they were given AML and POC training completely and utterly failed to understand anything.

Absolutely ridiculous and actually unhinged.

About what? Why would anyone care about laundering? Do you think they'll find out that drug dealers launder and then be like "oh how terrible, i am far too good of a person to contribute to that kind of thing", and never take drugs again?

I've been in law enforcement careers for two decades. I know exactly how common it is.

I also see the users every week in the pubs, restaurants, the street and even during the day amongst my neighbours.

I'm not a bloody idiot and the signs of a user are very very obvious to anyone who understands what to look for.

No one is keeping me "in the dark", including my foolish 21yo BIL and SIL who think people don't know they are using when they nip to the loo at a family meal.

People don't discuss it with me because I have no desire to discuss Class A drugs use with anyone. I no longer have the power of arrest, but it doesn't change any of my personal morals or integrity. And I judge users very hard indeed.

I was AML Compliance partner for several years. Anyone who can flippantly disregard that training is at best thick or at worst complicit in money laundering.

K xD

Well, You should probably know the people who take your training aren’t as passionate as you are about it.

If you say so.

You know this isn't a comedy sketch show, right? You're not playing the stern but completely deluded Matron type who everyone compares to their nightmare MIL.

Imagine thinking that the people who attend your mandatory training sessions as part of their job are actually influenced by them in any wider moralistic sense!

People don't even follow the advice given at manual handling to save their own backs!

This.

I don’t know anyone that does it, and I do know my circle of friends well. Thankfully all of us are of the idea that doing drugs is repulsive.

it may be very common in your circle but clearly not to everyone.

I guess it depends on what your definition of “functioning” is. I see people who have shakey legs, can’t be calm or rational, drive like maniacs, wired I guess and looking after kids makes them like watching a slow train crash (if you know!)

agree it’s rife.

also think it’s kind of sad people get more and more dependent and it moves from recreational to needing it just to get by.

I didn't realise how common it was until I was 25 and a friend group I had at the time all did it. My DH has a friend group who again most of them do it, still, even now well into their 30's, they have families, hold professional jobs etc.
I tried a space cake in Amsterdam and hated it, but I am not a person who enjoys not feeling in control. I also have naturally fast heart rate and would worry what it would do to me. Even OTC medicine l, I read the whole patient information sheet before I take it (I clearly have my own issues)
When I first started noticing how common it was I was shocked, but now it does not phase me. I probably silently judge them, and I would not want my DH to do it, but each to their own.

I think you might be right and I find it very worrying how many people take it.

This is the argument. Your immediate circle of friends don’t do it, fine. But you also state you “don’t know anyone” that does it, and that is probably not true. It could be your kids teacher, or a colleague, or the nice neighbour over the road, or your dentist or hairdresser, school parents, or any number of people that you know relatively well but aren’t in your close circle.

I genuinely do not believe that anyone knows literally not one person who takes drugs sometimes, whether you realise it or not.

I so agree with you! Yet most posters seem to not care less about this and act like it's a normal social activity, and if you don't do it you are somehow 'vanilla'.

Can you quote any posts where that was said?

I think people.are mixed up between acknowledging its popularity and widespread use and promoting and encouraging its use.

Just because we acknowledge domestic violence is common, it doesn't mean we are saying it is okay to beat up your partner.

I used to be naive to it.

I wondered why my (much smaller and lighter than me) friend would appear fine on a night out while I would feel drunk and need to go home.

My local pub (village, old man sort of place) it is rife in there.

I used to work as a stripper.. obviously it is expected in that realm but of the customers doing it I'm talking doctors, teachers, solicitors professionals of any sort.

I've also worked for the police. .. enough said. They use it..

It's very very common.

Those who do it (as a rule) are not open about it to those who dont, you're right.

The violence and abuse may not be that close to your immediate life but you won't have to dig very deep to uncover the misery behind your habit, you hold down a job to support a whole chain of misery