To think people are naive re cocaine

[Knockonw00d]

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

Lots of things are common it doesn't somehow make them good!

I do know how common it is BUT I also used to work with kids forced into County Lines gangs from very young ages who were driven around with kinder egg containers shoved up their arses containing wraps because if they were stopped by police they couldn't legally be strip searched. They were used to so much violence and abuse that they were almost nonchalant about it.

I will not financially support these cunts and DP knows that if I ever found out he was using he'd be out the door and fast.

I don't give one single shit if his arsehole mates are doing it.

Which is beside the point. The point is you can be a raging cokehead and still have a job.

I'm similar to you. I don't do coke that often and I'm not an addict, but I take it on occasion. I find it less harmful than alcohol!

Do you not give a shit about the harm caused to get that coke to you?

Agree, when I saw that thread about her husband and coke I honestly thought how many litres a day is he drinking for her to start a thread. This is like the articles in the Times, every professional person does coke and the school run is a hotbed of sex. They don't and it's not. There will be circles (obviously the ops) but not every group of friends is doing it.

It's the same drug. Cocaine that's snorted is just more popular amongst the middle and higher classes/incomes. People do rob their grannies and sell themselves for cocaine that goes up the nose too. There are also heroin addicts who can hold down a job. The privileged drug addicts just like to feel that they're above the rest so this fake hierarchy has been created.

Coke is cheaper and so more common place than it was 20 years ago, but I don’t think people are ‘naive’ if they’re shocked to find out their partner is doing coke. I mean guys cheating on a night out isn’t uncommon, but is it ‘naive’ to assume your DH is faithful? It’s about trust and honesty and assuming you know someone and their values. I mean I find it pretty shocking the number of people who are very vocal about social issues, but conveniently forget their ethics when it comes to the cocaine trade and doing a line on a night out.

It's "recreational" until it suddenly isn't, and then it ruins lives.
My ex developed a habit, started stealing from me to pay his debt, and gaslighting me in to believing that my cards were been stolen/cloned/I was misplacing cash etc.
Developed a vile temper and the last straw was when during a coke binge, he headbutted me in the face because the door was locked and he couldn't find his keys to go out and get more...
I left that night. Then I found out he was stealing from his job and the police were involved, and he'd been sacked from his previous job for the same thing.
I had no idea.
He has since stole from his next girlfriend, and from his family, and sold his brother's possessions. They've all disowned him and he's homeless.
Some good recreation that.

Cocaine is sold in too expensive quantities for it to be the kind of drug you buy through survival crime. You can get crack for as little as ten pound. Cocaine starts at around 50. Not many people sell half grams.

I mean occasional use of alcohol isn’t harmful anyway.

I imagine it might be common in your social circles in the bigger cities, specifically London, Manchester maybe. Do you live in London? But otherwise not something which is common with people in the circles I socialise in. I think it’s a class thing too. It seems Weed is the drug of choice for the lower classes, whereas Coke for the middle and upper classes.

Of course lots of people use cocaine. Also, lots of people don’t.

I live near 3 pubs (not for much longer, hooray!) and the drug taking is rife, coke the most popular by far, then dope and those stupid gas canisters. Our door opens onto the street and my gas box and window ledge were both used as cocaine tables all during the night. A few years ago put up spiky metal railings to protect the front. Stopped it, well by mine anyway.

It's just a shame that everyone's coke habit is causing so much misery in this country, with county lines and children being used and abused in the drugs trade. Awful.

I live in a small town in Cornwall. It is rife here. You just need to start looking about yourself and you'll spot it.

I find alcohol more addictive, for some reason. I can sometimes drink moderately, but sometimes I binge which isn't very healthy. It is also very fattening.

Very sad indeed. And those who enjoy it for the thrill are directly responsible for the gang violence and exploitation that trickles down the chain, all the way down to the poorest of the poor in developing countries. Sickening and selfish behaviour.

Could you please explain the signs you reference? I think I can detect a lot of them. But I had an unfortunate few dates with someone who turned out to be a user and I hadnt notice until I caught her red handed and now I'm afraid of dating again. She 'sniffled' a lot but so do I and I've never touched it, I just have a sensitive nose!

Yes I was definitely naive for a long time.

I grew up very working/lower class and so did all of my family, friends, colleagues etc and so I wasn’t around it that much and although I knew it was happening, it wasn’t a regular thing amongst our people.

It was only when I started being around middle and upper class people that I recognised how common coke is.

I work in a prison and alongside a drug charity and coke especially is so common in middle and upper class people, especially certain professionals.

I know it’s especially common in professions like lawyers, surgeons etc and I’ve heard stories of how it is a common thing to have before the start of an important meeting or at the end of it or to share with certain clients.
They liken it to people having an alcoholic drink, where in some professions it’s part of the culture, especially if it’s stressful or you need to be a good people person.

I know DS drinks occasionally. He's told me. I know he tried weed once in first year. I also know he went to a house party where there was cocaine and ketamine available. He told me he did resist the temptation because he knew it would be wrong.

DS now barely even drinks and doesn't enjoy it anymore. He didn't enjoy hangovers anymore. He's have a cocktail he likes the tastes of and that's it. He'd never do cocaine as he's terrified about getting a heart attack and dieing.

And I know my DH. He'll have a glass of wine at dinner. We've argued about smoking. But he's never ever done drugs.

DH and I grew up in India. The party/drugs culture was not there at the time.

K

I am definitely naive. I’ve never been around it nor as far as I know around people who take it either. I’d not have the foggiest who to ask to get anything like that, not that I’d want too. I find it scary as hell to be honest.

Yeah, common. Not my thing, personally.

We've had difficulties as well growing up. DH and I didn't have much money or material goods growing up. Life was hard. Never found the need to take drugs.

I’ve never taken drugs.
I do think it is more common amongst certain types of people.
I don’t go out at night much. If I do I tend to drive and so do my friends and family.
I think it depends on who you mix with,
I don’t go near areas which are full of potentially drunk, aggressive, shouty types it’s just not for me. That said I might have neighbours and work colleagues who take drugs, who knows. They are not close friends. But I don’t have one single close friend who takes drugs.
Without sounding irrational, lots of people are in denial. This is true for lots of things not just drug taking. Husbands working away from home get up to lots of inappropriate behaviour.
I also don’t have sympathy for anyone who drives whilst under the influence of drugs. Harsh sentences are the way to go.