To think people are naive re cocaine

[Knockonw00d]

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

Call me 'judgypants' if you want. I was assaulted at work by people on cocaine on several occasions. I don't want to be around people who do it, that's my choice, and I've left jobs over it.

The point of my post was to highlight that the people doing it, and the places where they do, are often not young clubbers or seedy men in nightclubs and cocktail bars that a lot of people are (clearly, from this thread) picturing. It can and is regular people in village pubs, nandos and at dinners with friends.

When people use drugs and enter these places (that are not set up with bouncers and police nearby) they place other people in danger. If people want to pretend it's a harmless little boost, they can, but they're wrong.

Missing the point again. The reason you are oblivious to how common it is is because the people around you who indulge know you are judgemental so don't tell you. It isn't that it isn't going on around you, it is just everybody keeps you in the dark because they know how you think and act.

I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration. I wouldn’t laugh at a parent who didn’t know her kid takes coke. It’s not really funny.

In fairness to @Ombof the regular drug users I know have had very difficult childhoods. I think the "right" vs "wrong" is too simplistic, but I don't know any drug users who've had a nice happy childhood. Including "recreational" users.

A lot of people would if they're sat there Lording about how only the worst people.do it and it doesnt happen in their nice home. They'll be pissing themselves with both pity and amazement at their total ignorance.

The vast majority of recreational drug users I know have had perfectly happy childhoods. Coke is a party drug

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Digdongdoo · Today 11:30

I think it must vary greatly between social circles. It certainly isn't used by anyone I socialize with. We drink and some smoke weed.

Your husband and you are happy to tolerate illegal drugs. Did he miss the AML and POC training?

It probably is quite common but is not among my friends

I think its a sign of the times.

Happy people don't need drugs to feel good. People turn to drugs when life isnt giving them what they need/want.

Yes weed smoking is common in her social group. It doesn't mean she smokes it.

This is the kind of nonsense that means you won't see when someone close is developing a drug habit.

I was in a club in Brentwood a few years ago. Naive me (from Ireland and in my 30s) couldn't figure out what the hold up was for the ladies' toilets. 3 girls were emerging from every cubicle after lengthy waits. When I got back to my group (people from London and Essex) I was informed that it was coke usage. It never even occurred to me! I was amazed tbh that it was so much the norm.

Agreed.

you could say the same about alcohol and certainly a very high % of people drink.

alcohol is legal and socially accepted but there is a strong line between those who indulge and difficult childhoods.

at the same time, most people with perfectly happy childhoods also drink alcohol.

its also not a parents place to judge whether their children had a happy childhood.

Dublin is AWASH with coke nowadays

It is common, but I think you are naive to the potential effects. Yes, some people can use it and not experience changes in behaviour and they can take it or leave it and carry on as normal Monday-Friday but not everyone can. It is very addictive, many people do become addicted and their behaviour does change. Many people can have changes in behaviour from casual use with an increase in anxiety and/or aggression.
Just like alcohol, some people will use it casually with no real impact on them or those around them but some will have huge changes in behaviour, be a risk to themselves and others and become dependent.

Exactly like that ! My partner used to do this every time we went out with a group of his work colleagues. One night I followed and entered the men’s toilet just to find all 4 men stuck in a cubicle waiting for his line. Needless to say that we ended up in the biggest fight of our relationship, I had a nervous asthma and panic attack and well… we survived after couples therapy and moved on from the area. But it was a very dark time.
After this I realised how normal and how coke is into every office and every social class around this country. It is extremely normal and so sad that many people choose drugs instead of family.
i bet in London things are much worst.

@Pregnancyquestion haha, yeah after I posted I did wonder if there was a bit of selection bias in what I said - there's a lot of difficult childhoods in my reference group!

Yes "some smoke weed". As in some people we know smoke weed. Not us.

Happy? Who said I'm happy about it? But they aren't supporting the illegal drug trade and I'm confident that their personal use of home grown Marijuana isn't harmful in the same way that cocaine is. You're welcome to disagree.

Her "in finance in the City" husband clearly didn't pay much attention at AML and Proceeds of Crime training. And she's happy to turn a blind eye to the misery caused by illegal drugs.

I don't and never have done drugs, do you think my mum shouldn't believe me?

If they were teenagers I would agree.
They aren't kids and have absolutely no need to tell me anything, it came up in conversation.

I agree & it's very minimised, we've had a few drug dealers locally that have had harsh prison sentences & the people commenting online 'oh for god sake go & catch some pedophiles' or 'it's just a bit of coke' etc etc shows you have stupid some people are. It's a serious problem but people seem to think it's harmless.

I don't knowingly know anyone who does it, but I could name a number i think would be most likely. Mind you, most of them are quite capable of being arseholes without coke or alcohol. They were certainly big drinkers.

When I lived in a shared house in the '90s, it was mostly Es with the odd bit of speed. Weed and mushrooms. It's quite possible some did lines of cocaine as well, and I just didn't know. I was never that into clubbing, which I suspect makes a difference. I have made some great hash cakes in my past, though.

A former colleague died a couple of years ago, in his early 50s. It was a heart attack, and I would not be surprised if it was cocaine-related. I'd have thought heart issues are a massive risk if you're still taking it in your 50s and older.

I can only imagine! Things don't take long to cross the pond. This was 9 years ago, now I come to think of it but it definitely wasn't as obvious in Dublin back then nor as socially normalised.

It’s utterly bizarre that you think AML and proceeds of crime training provided my their companies is going to stop people consuming drugs 😭

It might be common, but it causes damage and increases crime. Taking it is nothing to be proud of. 🙄

But they aren't supporting the illegal drug trade and I'm confident that their personal use of home grown Marijuana isn't harmful in the same way that cocaine is. You're welcome to disagree.

Talk about naivety. Your husband is an idiot if he's really in finance.