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To think people are naive re cocaine

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Knockonw00d · 19/10/2025 08:50

I see threads on here all the time where women find out their husband has been doing coke etc and are absolutely floored.
But it always amazes me how oblivious people are to how common it really is. I’m childfree and in my late 20s and i go on nights out almost every week so you get to know all of the other regulars in the bars. I do not know one person that I’ve met through going out that doesn’t do cocaine.

These people have professional jobs Monday - Friday. Some of them I know are teachers, nursery staff, work in the passport office. It is so common.

I also see a lot posters describing a change in behaviour and people suggest it could be drugs. But unless you’re doing things like heroin or spice, cocaine does not make you act in the ways people suggest.

Do people really not know how common casual use of cocaine is in this country?

OP posts:
Doingtheboxerbeat · 21/10/2025 10:20

Bambamhoohoo · 21/10/2025 09:22

I think naivety presents in the things people chose to say and communicate.

For example I have a friend who is staunchly anti experimenting with cannabis (sounds like many posters here) because her next door neighbours mum got her door kicked in by some dealers her son owed money to.

We all know cannabis can end like that, but we also know plenty of people who enjoy a joint on a Friday night or take the occasional gummy and walk away 20 years later unscathed having decided it’s not For them.

The lack of balance in the conversation sounds naive. And it’s what theperson chose to talk about in response to a conversation about cannabis. It does sound naive.

Similar to some of the posts on her about being “brought up right” and “WHY would you do cocaine?” In a tone that just shows a complete lack of experience or emotional intelligence (in regards to this not generally)

Some of the responses scream I'm considerably better than you, when all you have said is I know a lot of people who dabble - the implication that I must keep bad company.
I could literally be working in a professional role for a cocaine user or live next door to a dealer - or hear me out - I could just be a friendly, tolerant, non - judgemental person who people confide in , therefore I know all manner of people and their secrets.

Bambamhoohoo · 21/10/2025 10:53

Doingtheboxerbeat · 21/10/2025 10:20

Some of the responses scream I'm considerably better than you, when all you have said is I know a lot of people who dabble - the implication that I must keep bad company.
I could literally be working in a professional role for a cocaine user or live next door to a dealer - or hear me out - I could just be a friendly, tolerant, non - judgemental person who people confide in , therefore I know all manner of people and their secrets.

Yes, and there should be an acknowledgment that “better” is based on our own values judgement.
Some people would chose to bin their sister or best friend if they took coke, many would not and chose to turn a blind eye for the love and friendship.

there is a lot of judgement involved that doesn’t particularly add to the discussion, in many ways

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 11:04

I'm a massive stoner, 3 children, 2 are adults, professional job bla bla.

No one knows.

I wouldn't touch another drug but if I tell people I like an oul spliff it's amazing how many say yep, me too.

kkloo · 21/10/2025 11:09

Bambamhoohoo · 21/10/2025 09:22

I think naivety presents in the things people chose to say and communicate.

For example I have a friend who is staunchly anti experimenting with cannabis (sounds like many posters here) because her next door neighbours mum got her door kicked in by some dealers her son owed money to.

We all know cannabis can end like that, but we also know plenty of people who enjoy a joint on a Friday night or take the occasional gummy and walk away 20 years later unscathed having decided it’s not For them.

The lack of balance in the conversation sounds naive. And it’s what theperson chose to talk about in response to a conversation about cannabis. It does sound naive.

Similar to some of the posts on her about being “brought up right” and “WHY would you do cocaine?” In a tone that just shows a complete lack of experience or emotional intelligence (in regards to this not generally)

I think OP set the tone here because the post had a real teenage attitude to parents of 'but EVERYBODY does it' when they want to do something and dismissing anything their parents have told them about the dangers just because they haven't experienced it themselves.

It's also offensive to the women who have been indeed been floored by it, it's coming across like they should have half expected it, I would imagine that in the same couple if the wife went out and randomly did cocaine even though they weren't a drug user then the husband would be equally if not more floored. Yes there may be people from all walks of life who do it but if your partner isn't a drug user of course you're likely to be floored if they suddenly decide to partake.

Bambamhoohoo · 21/10/2025 12:08

kkloo · 21/10/2025 11:09

I think OP set the tone here because the post had a real teenage attitude to parents of 'but EVERYBODY does it' when they want to do something and dismissing anything their parents have told them about the dangers just because they haven't experienced it themselves.

It's also offensive to the women who have been indeed been floored by it, it's coming across like they should have half expected it, I would imagine that in the same couple if the wife went out and randomly did cocaine even though they weren't a drug user then the husband would be equally if not more floored. Yes there may be people from all walks of life who do it but if your partner isn't a drug user of course you're likely to be floored if they suddenly decide to partake.

I agree and I do think the poster set the tone.

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 12:22

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 11:04

I'm a massive stoner, 3 children, 2 are adults, professional job bla bla.

No one knows.

I wouldn't touch another drug but if I tell people I like an oul spliff it's amazing how many say yep, me too.

People know in fact your neighbours all know. Next door son smokes at lot and you can tell in the garden, in the street outside it smells!

people know they just don’t particularly care.
(and for us it evens out footballs go over into their garden and DS quite likes watching late night sport).

EllaPaella · 21/10/2025 12:22

JurassicPark4Eva · 19/10/2025 09:02

I don't give a fuck if it's common.

I think dramatically less of anyone who uses it, including my 21yo BIL and SIL who used it in my local pub when we took them out for a meal. They will never be invited again.

I have been in law enforcement for over 20years. The misery of drug dealing, county lines, associated sexual abuse and rapes, the extreme violence, the importation, the dumping of drugs into water courses, the impact on the countries of origin for the drugs..... And people are also only now hearing the risks of things like ketamine and the effects on your bladder, the use of extreme synthetic drugs like nitazenes which has an extraordinarily high risk of death - and you wouldn't have a clue what the substance actually is until your body reacts because you assume your nice drug dealer knows what it is (and most of the time they don't know what it is).

All so some twat can sniff an unidentified white powder up their nose on a Friday night in a quiet local pub because they think they are cool?

Nah, fuck off.

Well said

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 12:48

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 12:22

People know in fact your neighbours all know. Next door son smokes at lot and you can tell in the garden, in the street outside it smells!

people know they just don’t particularly care.
(and for us it evens out footballs go over into their garden and DS quite likes watching late night sport).

I don't smoke it at home because I have children.

So no, no one would know.

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 12:54

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 12:48

I don't smoke it at home because I have children.

So no, no one would know.

Well yes someone does unless you grow it. And where you smoke it and the fact it probably smells on your clothes. Weed stinks and the smell travels

and that I think is exactly the point for the OP sometimes people do know but they don’t care

when they do care it is noticeable and they do know

EmeraldShamrock000 · 21/10/2025 13:14

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 12:48

I don't smoke it at home because I have children.

So no, no one would know.

They know, and if they don't know, they're suspicious.
Not judging, it is common around here, the constant smell wafting.

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 14:12

EmeraldShamrock000 · 21/10/2025 13:14

They know, and if they don't know, they're suspicious.
Not judging, it is common around here, the constant smell wafting.

My next door neighbour is a cow, think I'm safe unless it learns to talk.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 21/10/2025 14:17

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 14:12

My next door neighbour is a cow, think I'm safe unless it learns to talk.

The cow probably enjoys the aroma..
Sounds peaceful.✌️

Stripperyone · 21/10/2025 14:25

kkloo · 21/10/2025 08:47

I think she was very much implying that it's more common than we think and that we're all falsely believing that it causes behavioural issues because we know nothing at all about it, because everyone she meets when she's out is on it and yet all of them are fine......🙄

Haha okay, you've interpreted her posts quite differently to how I did.
I do think It's a lot more common than a lot of people think.

I don't think everyone is on it nor do I think every cocaine user is fine.

Stripperyone · 21/10/2025 14:28

Thatsalineallright · 21/10/2025 09:20

It depends. Legalising it would mean quality standards needing to be met and taxes needing to be paid. That might make the legal product more expensive than the illegal product, in which case there is still a huge incentive for the black market. I believe there is a similar phenomenon with cannabis in countries where it has been legalised.

It would definitely make it a lot more expensive, I think I said upthread that there'd likely still be an illegal market for it. It wouldn't be a solution to all of the issues it causes although it would likely reduce them. And quite possibly create some new ones.

Stripperyone · 21/10/2025 14:32

If the PP who smokes cannabis does it at someone else's place, comes home washes clothes and changes, I can see why nobody would suspect her unless they happened to bump into her walking home.

I remain friends with a prolific 'stoner', been friends since school. Whenever I visit her I am paranoid driving home becuase her whole house smells of it. But she smokes it all day, I'd probably smell like I smoke it too were I to encounter someone before I threw my clothes in the wash, having just returned from her house.

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 14:34

EmeraldShamrock000 · 21/10/2025 14:17

The cow probably enjoys the aroma..
Sounds peaceful.✌️

I don't enjoy his 😄

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 14:37

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 14:34

I don't enjoy his 😄

And your supplier?

if you are that prolific a smoker somebody knows that is the whole naivity of the thread that people do know

cannabis is the least harmful of all the drugs including nicotine and alcohol so doesn’t bother me at all but to say no one knows and it doesn’t have an effect on your simply isn’t true though

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 14:42

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 14:37

And your supplier?

if you are that prolific a smoker somebody knows that is the whole naivity of the thread that people do know

cannabis is the least harmful of all the drugs including nicotine and alcohol so doesn’t bother me at all but to say no one knows and it doesn’t have an effect on your simply isn’t true though

My boyfriend gets it for me when he gets his.

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 14:48

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 14:42

My boyfriend gets it for me when he gets his.

So he knows, so your partner knows and does it too.

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 15:04

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 14:48

So he knows, so your partner knows and does it too.

Of course. Is that what you were getting at because it goes without saying....

If we were colleagues etc, you would never know 😃

A coke head though, can spot them a mile off.

I think you sound like you could do with a little spliff.

Ombof · 21/10/2025 15:11

I do think I'm better than others because I don't drink, smoke or do drugs.

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 15:42

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 15:04

Of course. Is that what you were getting at because it goes without saying....

If we were colleagues etc, you would never know 😃

A coke head though, can spot them a mile off.

I think you sound like you could do with a little spliff.

So your actual point is that you can spot someone doing coke even if you work with them because it does cause personality changes - which is exactly what the OP was saying isn’t true.

Unlike smoking which only your partner knows about and supports

No thank you admittedly trying to understand your posts has given me a headache given how lightheaded smelling next door makes me now I will give it a pass!

Plus I could just buy a CBD drink legally in Sainsbury’s and save my lungs

ThatAquaRobin · 21/10/2025 16:01

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 15:04

Of course. Is that what you were getting at because it goes without saying....

If we were colleagues etc, you would never know 😃

A coke head though, can spot them a mile off.

I think you sound like you could do with a little spliff.

If only this were true. (Spotting coke heads a mile off)
My ex was not obvious. No aggression or dilated pupils.
He seemed to be more 'on it' more intentional and the biggest thing was 'not grumpy' when I think he was using. Sniffing all the time with a runny nose certainly.
I either didn't want to see it or missed it completely until the mood swings became too much.

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 16:03

Tiswa · 21/10/2025 15:42

So your actual point is that you can spot someone doing coke even if you work with them because it does cause personality changes - which is exactly what the OP was saying isn’t true.

Unlike smoking which only your partner knows about and supports

No thank you admittedly trying to understand your posts has given me a headache given how lightheaded smelling next door makes me now I will give it a pass!

Plus I could just buy a CBD drink legally in Sainsbury’s and save my lungs

If someone was under the influence of cocaine, you might spot it, you might not.

It's not always obvious of course.

I'm sure I do work with people that do drugs, I doubt I would notice personality changes but there are other signs that would give it away.

You could always try the vape which has no smell but the green light might give you away😉

Meandmyguy · 21/10/2025 16:05

ThatAquaRobin · 21/10/2025 16:01

If only this were true. (Spotting coke heads a mile off)
My ex was not obvious. No aggression or dilated pupils.
He seemed to be more 'on it' more intentional and the biggest thing was 'not grumpy' when I think he was using. Sniffing all the time with a runny nose certainly.
I either didn't want to see it or missed it completely until the mood swings became too much.

Good that he's an ex.

I'd have zero time for cocaine.