To chortle my face off at this fucking farce from Reform

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/18/suck-it-up-leaked-video-exposes-bitter-infighting-at-reform-uks-flagship-kent-council

But in seriousness, imagine these kind of people running your council, let alone your country…

We are 16 months into a new government. I have no idea why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over opposition parties. How about we just let them do their job.

Ohhhh, that explains it, that whole thread is a slighter more modern day equivalent of:
‘Well, I was always smacked as a kid and it didn’t do me any harm’.

Also, now realise they haven’t bothered answering any questions on EHCP process and provision, because they actually know fuck all about any of it.

They’ll likely be our next government if not alone then in coalition with the Tories. A lot of people are panicking and dressing it up as contempt.

I’m not sure stating that the nation is ‘panicking’ about a party getting in is the flex you think it is 😐

Tbf this is known in council meetings. Our council had a full on bunfight and a few people had to be evicted from it.

I'd hazard a guess all councils have had unprofessional behaviour.

They need a dose of hard work, pack of fuckers. Might teach them a few things.

She doesn’t have to read it at midnight….wait until the morning 🤷🏼‍♀️

Reform UK are going to cut provision to children with SEN?🤯 Stop children from accessing the education they need?🤯🤯🤯

Fucking hell!

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Oh you're back, good.

What is your evidence for EHCPs being granted to children don’t need them?

I imagine private assessments have increased because they are increasingly difficult to obtain through schools. So are you saying to avoid the ‘aggressive parental advocacy’ of private assessments, provision should be increased, and maybe sped up, in the state sector? If so, I doubt that would cut overall costs. Or are you saying that children who can’t get through the state route, and whose parent’s therefore use private assessments, shouldn’t have access to the process? If so, how would ensure you’re not locking out a whole raft of children who do actually need the support but just can’t access it?
And if 'Necessary' is subjective, in this context, please can you explain the process that should be used to identify who's who?

The EHCP process is an incredibly complicated process, underpinned by many different laws. Parents going through the process struggle with it, councils often don't and have to employ legal professional to manage it. I really doubt a Reform councillor coming from a position of prejudice to begin with really understands the law. They can try to change the law if they get in to power, but I doubt it will get passed, because it is discrimination to withdraw education for disabled kids at the end of the day. Parents would just get together and pool resources and make legal challenges to make sure it doesn't happen. It has happened in my area with some SEN policies.

These headlines are just distractions because if we are going back and forth over policies and law changes that never comes to fruition, it means that everything conveniently stays the same, and that people aren't angry about things staying shit, just relieved they haven't gotten even more shit. This seems to be what Labour is about, Reform just seem to want to burn down their house so they can cook a pizza.

Do you think this is going to stop them from getting into power. Dream on. If you wanted to keep reform from power, you shouldn’t have drunk the Marxist kool aid and been such a fan of open borders. Now suck it up.

I'm shocked. Everyone I've ever met who supports Reform has been among the most empathetic people you could imagine. Their avowed desire to help the poor and vulnerable, regardless of skin colour, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, or disability has always been to the fore in my every interaction with them. Not to mention their general erudition, and in particular their fine grasp of international affairs, economics, and the law. The thought that any of them might in fact be an arsehole has never crossed my mind.

Many of those "responsibilities" are actually statutory duties. Councils can't decide to simply stop doing stuff the law requires them to do because they want to cut spending.

Don't forget the Reform councillor in Falkirk, under police investigation for saying "born and bred". The implications, during a BBC or stv interview that protesting about an asylum seeker commiting a sex crime was worthy of a riot/protest, but crickets when a guid local wee laddie was sentenced for a sex come as appalling. "Aye but she was born and bred so the sacred locals have Mair rights than that nasty foreigner".

I’m well aware of that. The law is changing because it knows it overpromised

My district council is 75% Green and LD councillors and they work together as a coalition.

I've had dealings with two of the Green councillors, and they've been bloody excellent.

Well, that'd be fine for those who want their local school's closed and their granny's sitting in her own shit all day because her care package has been cut.

And I suppose homeless families could just camp out in shop doorways when the council decides it doesn't want to pay for temporary accommodation.

You think farmers, business owners and Tories are Marxists now?
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Overpromised? By promising an education for children? Catch yerself on.🙄

Did Reform UK say they were going to cut education for children with SEN? How much money do you think this will save?

A future Reform government with a parliamentary majority of 1 could merely change the law to remove that requirement.

In fact, a future Reform government with a parliamentary majority of 1 could do a lot of stuff, and the UK constitution — unwritten, and largely based on "Good Chap Theory" — would not be able to stop them:

1. Remove indefinite leave to remain from anyone, even if they have lived in the UK for 50+ years.
2. Raise cabinet ministers' salaries to £1 million per year.
3. Install GB News producers and presenters at the BBC, ITN, and Sky.
4. Have all school books vetted for "woke" ideas, such as "it's not nice to shout racial epithets at non-white people in the street".
5. Appoint a head of the CPS who is amenable to not prosecuting violent crimes against brown people.
6. Remove UK citizenship from anyone who is entitled to citizenship of another country by descent, regardless of whether they have been convicted of a crime in any jurisdiction. (In fact, given that this is exactly what happened to Shamima Begum, this one wouldn't even require a change in the law. The Home Secretary can declare any dual national to be a threat to national security and take their UK citizenship from them.)
7. Require Muslims to have large yellow crescents sewn into their clothing, with "P_" written on them.
8. Raid any house in the country at any time if illegal immigrants (or grannies who arrived in 1967, see point 1) are suspected of living there.
9. House 500,000 potential deportees in former army camps. Since those are rather flimsy premises that were not designed to keep people inside against their will, erect machine gun towers to ensure that nobody tries to escape.
10. Construct gas chambers when deportation turns out to be logistically difficult.

So far they have only announced their intention to carry out point 1. But there is a core of their supporters who would wank themselves into over a coma just imagining the rest, up to and (especially) including 10.

I'm autistic and 70 years old, so in my case it can't be down to current events, social media wasn't a thing and we didn't have a tv until I was 9, and back then it didn't start until late afternoon, so there wasn't a lot of screen time.

I guess it must be down to arrested development, although I was reading from the age of 3.

What rubbish! Can you also elaborate on what was promised and answer the questions you’ve repeatedly ignored .

A disrupter party attracts disruptive members who have poor ability to communicate among themselves or cooperate & don't give a damn if they cause chaos? Gee, who would have predicted that.

I presume Reform voters in Kent are very happy with the results. They knew what they were voting for.

Interesting they are all WFH in that video

Also, who dreamed that Reform not vetting their candidates would let a load of woke moles into the party ?