To find salary offered an insult?

[Willowtree5]

As part of a restructure, I have been asked if I would take on three direct reports (I currently don’t manage anyone, but have in the past - big pull of current role was no line management responsibility).

I said I’d consider it - whilst I know I can manage people, it does add to my workload and the ‘mental load’ of dealing with all the crap around sickness/absence, 1:1’s etc.

My manager said she’d establish what additional uplift to my salary would be possible and let me know.

They’ve come back with an offer of £125,000 (current salary pre bonuses £105,000) which I find frankly insulting given the workload this would add.

AIBU to tell them to stuff it?

For that sort of salary I would make their tea as well as manage them. I assume asking whether a salary of £125,000 is insulting is a stealth boast.

‘Why are you putting D in front of everything?’

What do you mean sorry? You must be new around here!

I’ve fired off an email to my Dmanager setting out my counter proposal, I’ll keep you all posted.

The strange thing about this thread isn’t the numbers, it’s the tone and lack of logic about money.

20% is a decent rise to manage a small team. If you are underpaid already, that is a different issue and you should always negotiate to get paid you fair worth.

Also, if you know you are worth more, why are you asking a forum of parents, rather than just negotiating or asking a finance forum with more relevant knowledge.

But I suspect this thread will get to 1,000 posts, which I kind of suspect may be its primary motivation.

Anyone else feel a bit sorry for the manager?!

no the people she is about to manage

OP with all seriousness the tone you use on this I hope is just for this as if you are going to manage you can’t like this

Oh that’s a given

Surely you mean Dmanager?

Op.,, I’m going to wager that you are ND

Because it’s also proven to be a forum full of 6 figure earners?

£125k is a very average salary
No - an average salary in the UK is about £30k
The average London salary is about £47k

I think proof is one thing that is definitely missing.

I think that's the OP giving a big clue that she's taking the piss.

1 in 25 earn over 100k so it isn’t an average salary at all

but as I said that doesn’t matter here what matters is the comparison with your role and other similar roles - benchmark it and take it from there

From the tone of your posts, I'd hate to have you as a manager....

surely it’s 100% dependent on the industry you working and standards held in that industry. I’m on 50K and I don’t manage anyone. In fact, I’m only a year and a half out of a graduate salary of 40K. My DP is on just over 70k and manages about 10 people. But he’s not even the dept manager. It’s not a one size fits all.

I was just thinking that the average salary is more like 30k. £125k salary, i just wouldn't know what to spend on that. Dh probably would though. When my youngest was born he was in the nicu and i came home without him and just cried. My inlaws said they would get me a present, whatever i wanted to cheer me up. I asked for a helium balloon with it's a boy on it. Dh said i should have picked a sports car but inlaws said that's why they never ask him to choose a gift with no price limit!

Not sure if you know OP but the D in front of people's names/titles stands for dear or darling. So people would say dh short for darling husband but wouldn't normally say darling manager. Although if i was on over £100k salary maybe i would call my boss darling as well!

I’d say it’s fair, well in my role anyway but why not counter. It depends who they are, what they do as to how much effort it is. I manage people in the roles the level below me (qualified accountants with 5-10 years experience type roles) and they’re pretty light touch but then them I’m a fairly leave them to it management style. You do have to stand up for yourself, I once refused to change my notice period as there was nothing in it for me and then left about 6 months later anyway.

I have read and reread this and I can’t really get my head around your point! Something about helium balloons and sports cars

Presumably your in laws wouldn’t have bought you a sports car if you’d asked for it?

Yanbu to say no if it doesn't suit you.

Yabu to be offended. It's a perfectly reasonable offer.

Sorry, it's probably me, i have dyslexia and a non sleeping child which means my brain struggles to string a sentence together. I was meaning that a salary of that magnitude is so high, i wouldn't know what to do with it, hence being offered a gift with an unlimited spending limit i chose a balloon. DH has the same amount of money i do but would be a lot better at spending a huge salary than me. This was in response to someone saying £125k was an average salary.

Private schooling for multiple children would pretty much decimate it just for starters!

It always makes me laugh when posters claim they need over £100k or they’re broke because they’re only on £100k but they need more because they live in London.

I do not know one person who earns more than £40k who lives in London.

Bloody hell.

I was on £46k on my first job in London… 16 years ago. And I wasn’t remotely senior!