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Prince Andrew

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TabithaMerlot · 16/10/2025 09:42

I just think everyone should know about these details, published yesterday:

‘Prince Andrew believed having sex with me was his birthright’: Virginia Giuffre on her abuse at the hands of Epstein, Maxwell and the king’s brother www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/15/prince-andrew-virginia-giuffre-abuse-epstein-maxwell?CMP=share_btn_url

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ClareBlue · 17/10/2025 00:22

It is a phase particularly associated with hereditary people that is generally said by others when criticising them and definitely makes a good line in a book to sell it as we are seeing. However entitled and vile Andrew actually is, it's hard to believe even he thinks he has an entitlement to shag random 17 year olds because of his birth status.
The reports that he guessed her age correct because it was a bit older than his daughters is the worst part of that bit. He knew exactly how young and vulnerable girls of that age were but still had no problem in getting his sexual gratification with her. That shows a serious deviant character.

Itsrainingatlast · 17/10/2025 20:10

His titles have gone! And Sarah’s as well.

Just a shame that he still gets to live in the lap
of luxury.

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 17/10/2025 23:47

He's one sleazy bastard but he wasn't the only that accepted
Epstein's hospitality and all that entailed.
Hopefully more will be named.

JudgeJ · 17/10/2025 23:56

Goldeh · 16/10/2025 17:20

He won't sue them because he cannot provide any evidence that the allegations aren't true. He even goes as far as saying he never met her despite evidence to the contrary. The sad fact of it though is that so many of the people involved are rich enough and connected enough that it's unlikely the full facts will ever come out.

But what's the real evidence that it's true? Because someone claims something happened doesn't make it true, after her death there seems to be a queue of people ready to milk the sad situation.

SixSeven · 18/10/2025 00:00

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 17/10/2025 23:47

He's one sleazy bastard but he wasn't the only that accepted
Epstein's hospitality and all that entailed.
Hopefully more will be named.

Agree on all counts. No doubt there are plenty of famous people involved in this, yet only a couple of Brits have been targeted. Who is hiding what, and why?

YumYa · 18/10/2025 07:38

Just been reading about Victoria. So sad for her dcs.

WineBeforeWhine · 18/10/2025 07:41

Vile (I bet he’s sweaty now) excuse of a man, the late Queen must have been ashamed of him.

Chas, lied all through his first marriage. What does that make him?

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 18/10/2025 07:43

Not before giving him 12 million to buy silence.

WineBeforeWhine · 18/10/2025 07:50

True. And will we still be paying for his security? Parliament now needs to revoke his dukedom.

XWKD · 18/10/2025 08:08

ShenandoahRiver · 16/10/2025 19:43

@ladyofshertonabbas
He needs to have his title of Duke of York stripped from him and he needs have the honour of being a Knight of the Garter removed too.
But in all truth neither of these will ever happen.

There must have been a good fairy reading MN. Your wish is her command!🎉

FluentOP · 18/10/2025 12:26

XWKD · 18/10/2025 08:08

There must have been a good fairy reading MN. Your wish is her command!🎉

Well it wasn’t really taken away from him: he just said that he will no longer use the titles. He has tried to make himself look “honourable “ by saying that he will no longer use them as though he has made that decision . He needs to be held accountable for being part of the whole Epstein scandal. He is still denying it even though he emailed Epstein the day after the Virginia photograph appeared in the newspapers and instead of saying to Epstein “who is that in the photo, I have never met that girl”, instead he said “we are in this together “ and “we will play again soon”. He is a vile excuse for a human being. His family have been covering his tracks including his mother.

Ukisgaslit · 18/10/2025 12:28

FluentOP · 16/10/2025 19:07

It will all be brushed under the carpet. He might get a small punishment like not being allowed to attend royal Christmas dinner but apart from that it’s “nothing to see here. Never explain, never complain”. The same happened with his great uncle, Mountbatten (see link). The young boys in Kincora Care Home were treated abominably by the establishment. The royal family are corrupt and rotten to the core. They are above the law and exempt from Freedom of Information requests. It’s time for them to go.

https://www.irishacademicpress.ie/product/kincora/

Thank you for raising this .
It is often ignored .

XWKD · 19/10/2025 06:23

In the coming years this could become a major political issue. If the monarchy wants to continue to exist, he needs to be exiled -although he'd probably end up in Mar-a-Lago. 🤢

Lampzade · 19/10/2025 06:34

The King’s brother is and has always been an entitled , nasty , arrogant prick who was coddled and protected by his mother .

HelenaWaiting · 19/10/2025 06:40

user1471453601 · 16/10/2025 19:13

@SerendipityJane so if Andrew did sue the publisher of the book, it would be for Andrew to prove because he would be the one accusing. Is that what you mean?

No. As everyone knows, you cannot prove a negative. If he sued for libel it would be for the publishers to prove that the allegations were true, or that they had taken reasonable steps to corroborate them.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 19/10/2025 06:48

PinkPanther57 · 16/10/2025 19:37

I thought he didn’t know or remember, Virginia?

Fancy paying someone you 'can't remember' millions and millions of £££ to make everything disappear.

absolute cretin.

The whole royal family needs to be gone. It's a fucking pathetic, antiquated concept that serves absolutely no purpose to the people of this country.

HollyGolightly4 · 19/10/2025 06:55

JudgeJ · 17/10/2025 23:56

But what's the real evidence that it's true? Because someone claims something happened doesn't make it true, after her death there seems to be a queue of people ready to milk the sad situation.

Are you a man?

ColinOfficeTrolley · 19/10/2025 06:55

To mention his daughters whilst having the intention of molesting raping that poor sex trafficked girl

Apologies, but just had to fix that

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 12:29

It keeps getting worse ...

Worth reminding people that his close protection officers either know where he has been at all times or (possibly even worse) could be asked to testify about the times he wasn't in their care ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3970mxwz9vo

A close-up of Prince Andrew, who is outside in front of some railings - he is wearing a dark blue suit jacket and a white shirt which can just be seen and is looking at the camera with a neutral expression

Met Police to look into claims Prince Andrew sought information on accuser

Media reports say he asked his police protection to find out personal details about Virginia Giuffre.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3970mxwz9vo

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 14:53

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 12:29

It keeps getting worse ...

Worth reminding people that his close protection officers either know where he has been at all times or (possibly even worse) could be asked to testify about the times he wasn't in their care ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3970mxwz9vo

Good.
This needs a full investigation.

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SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 14:57

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 14:53

Good.
This needs a full investigation.

Back in 2019, when he was pulling the "Pizza Express" defence, I suggested that his bodyguard would know the truth.

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 15:02

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 14:57

Back in 2019, when he was pulling the "Pizza Express" defence, I suggested that his bodyguard would know the truth.

Am I right to assume his bodyguards would never ever tell the truth though, if it meant betraying what Andrew has said?

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XWKD · 19/10/2025 15:34

He needs to become the Andrew formerly known as Prince.

SerendipityJane · 19/10/2025 16:17

TabithaMerlot · 19/10/2025 15:02

Am I right to assume his bodyguards would never ever tell the truth though, if it meant betraying what Andrew has said?

We have no idea about how they are integrated into the whole rotten edifice that is hereditary privilege. If you were playing charades and you had to somehow convey "transparency" then probably the last thing you'd mime is wearing a crown.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 19/10/2025 16:34

JudgeJ · 17/10/2025 23:56

But what's the real evidence that it's true? Because someone claims something happened doesn't make it true, after her death there seems to be a queue of people ready to milk the sad situation.

Well he's now a proven liar at least.

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