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To find it exhausting being continuously grateful

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Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 00:33

Sorry this is long but I'm trying to give a full picture. I've always been a very independent person and have rarely asked for anything from my parents since leaving home at 18. I've generally had a drama free life. Got good jobs and financially on top of everything. My parents have always been the sort to try and help their kids and they offer a lot to my younger siblings, especially my younger brother who they help a lot and put themselves out there a lot for him, even though he doesn't make a lot of effort with them. They complain my 2 siblings live far away, especially my middle brother who has children and my mum gets jealous of the other grandma who looks after his kids a lot.

However, in my mid 30s 2 years ago I lost my job and my partner left me while I was pregnant, which left me in a vulnerable situation as I had a mortgaged house and lived a long way from my family. My mum invited me to move in with them (their idea) which was a lifeline and I was very grateful for. They were both really supportive with the birth and ever since and they forged a very close relationship with my child. As a baby, I did the bulk but they were always on hand if I needed a shower or someone to watch him when I interviewed for a new job or went to the gym classes twice a week (my mum encouraged me to get back to exercising). Because he was breastfed, I didn't do any overnights without him till I went back to work and rarely did anything socially without him.

I got a new job after a year and went back full time (my industry doesn't do part time). My son has been at nursery 4 days a week and 1 with my mum (her suggestion). Between the 3 of us we do pick ups and drop offs although my mum tends to do pick up as it's in my working hours and then I take over after he's had dinner and do bath, bed and any wake ups at night. I sometimes have to travel for work. It's quite common in my line of work, but I purposefully chose a new job where I work from home and travel less but there is some travel. I also go to the gym for an hour twice a week. After that, I just don't feel like I can ask for much more as that seems like a lot of help, so I rarely see my friends or do anything socially that isn't work. When I do I feel bad for asking and also for being away from my son. I don't mind but I sometimes feel a bit lonely as I don't get out much. I'll add I also contribute financially and I pay for nearly everything for my son and anything they've bought for him, they do the equvilant for the other grandchildren. Also they give my brother a lot of money towards his childcare since they feel they're doing a lot for me, even though they get help from the other grandparents.

Now my gripe is how much my mum complains to me and tells me I should be grateful and implies I should move out sometimes, but when I say I'm looking to move out she backtracks and says there's no rush and I don't have to. She's always saying how tired she is complaining how much she has to do. She doesn't work and my son is at nursery 4 days a week. But on those 4 days she does loads of exercise classes and is out and about all day, which she is totally free to do and I'm not saying she shouldn't, but it's also how much she expects from herself and the rest of us in the rest of the time; Every meal is complicated and from scratch and takes a long time. On the days she's not around I throw together really simple, quick meals and she complains to me about this, saying I should try harder and she managed it when we were kids on her own. If I try to cook when she's there, she never wants to eat what I'm making and complains I'm in the way/making a mess, so generally I stick to clearing/washing up after my child is asleep. She complains our rooms are a mess, but if I ask her to watch my son while I sort them out, she will complain about that too saying she's busy. When I travel for work the first thing I have to do when I get back is say thank you and how grateful I am, otherwise I get an earful for being rude. For example, one time my son was crying when I got home so I immediately took him upstairs to get him out of my parents hair, then my mum followed me and told me off for not saying thank you.

She's not like this with my brothers at all and will drop anything for them. To give an example I had a rare social thing in the calendar scheduled for after my son was asleep, I was dressed and ready to go, but then my brother was visiting and suddenly told us he needed a lift from the station. I got told I coudln't go out afterall since he needed a lift. I then had to listen to my brother talking about how he'd been out every day for the last month when he arrived at the house, which I found really upsetting.

A while ago I broke down to my parents and said I felt like me and my son are an inconvinience to them and said I felt very lonely and I couldn't go out much and my mum said she didn't intend to make it seem like it was an inconvinience and she's very happy to look after my son and then she didn't complain as much for a while, but recently it's started again.

I feel like they absolutely love my son, but I feel like they don't really want us in the house, but they do want us to live very close by.

I've been planning options to move out and where I don't have to rely on them as much as, as much as I really am grateful, I'm exhausted by it and having to feel like someone is doing me a favour all the time. This would involve moving further away as they live in a very expensive area and I'd need to free up income to pay for childcare. I tentatively mentioned this to my dad and then they cornered me and asked me why I felt like I needed to move out and said I can stay as long as I like.

I'm just very tired and feel isolated even with their support sometimes. I know being a mum of a young child is always very tiring, single or not, especially trying to balance work as well. But I feel like the treading on eggshells is adding to my exhaustion and mental workload.

AIBU to be fed up of telling my mum I'm grateful?

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Needlenardlenoo · 15/10/2025 14:04

OMG, take that work option immediately! Do it for your son.

One day you will look back and wonder why the hell you put up with this for so long!

Comtesse · 15/10/2025 14:05

I wouldn’t fancy multi generational living very much either. It’s been brilliant to help you get on your feet when your ex left but you will need to move out, perfectly reasonable to do so. And will put things back on a more even keel with your parents, I expect.

Comtesse · 15/10/2025 14:09

Plus your mum seems very free with her opinions (what job you should have, how you should tidy up, what’s the appropriate level of gratitude, how you must go to the gym) - that would absolutely get on my nerves too!

Swiftie1878 · 15/10/2025 14:10

You’re caught in a trap of your own and your parents’ making. It’s all become too enmeshed, and you appear to have lost the capacity for independent thought - your mum’s opinions hold too much sway over your decision-making.

You need to move out and put a little distance between you so you can re-establish boundaries and they start to recognise you as an independent mum and woman again.
It’ll be tough to start with, as you’ll miss the on-call help with your DS, but it’ll be so worth it, and you will get into a new groove soon enough.

Good luck! xx

godmum56 · 15/10/2025 14:39

WoahWoahandThriceWoah · 15/10/2025 06:17

Choose your hard.

  1. performative gratefulness for all of the help you are receiving from your parents (that you really should be massively grateful for anyway)
  2. move out and have little/no help. Fund nursery/every other bill yourself. If you want to go out for an evening pay for a babysitter. Most parents do that anyway.

this. I love the "choose your hard" concept too.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/10/2025 14:53

You are in a very difficult situation OP but I agree you need to move out and hopefully maintain a positive relationship with your parents.

As for the treatment of your siblings, it's more likely they will see you as being spoiled and indulged because of all the help you get. I've no doubt your parents complain to them about how exhausted they are from minding your kid. If the brother didn't get a lift that night because they are minding your child again I can see why that would be unfair too, probably more so. The unfairness and lack of social life and stress etc doesn't come from your parents or family, it stems from being a single mother with a young child. Life has dealt you a difficult hand there.

It sounds like you are all good people doing your best, but you and your parents both need separate spaces and they are not wrong for being frustrated, neither are you. I wonder would they help you financially if you rent your own place? It's another big ask but if they have means it might be worth it for them to regain their home. When you have your own space you can have friends over and do whatever you want, it will be so worth it even if you are living with very low disposable income.

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 15:10

LadyNorthStar · 15/10/2025 08:40

You go to the gym twice a week and go out for dinner with friends every other month. You are also ‘out’ at work without having to worry about your child.

You won’t be worrying about calls from nursery asking you to come now because he’s ill or worrying about having to take time off again when this happens, because your parents are there.

I think you have plenty of ‘me’ time to be honest. Your work trips also count - I bet you get to stay in nice hotels with dinner etc.

I bet the house is clean and tidy, your washing is done, it sounds like your mum makes dinner a lot.

You have got it really really good and of course your mum wants you to be grateful. You are both under her feet and I can’t imagine being in this position when I’m retired.

All you have to do is say thank you and show appreciation. It seems a pretty good deal to me.

I mean, I feel like screenshotting this and sending it to 'Man who has it all'. Typical thing which is said to women that sounds like farce when reversed.

Get your "me time" in the shower or on the toilet 😂

My work trips are certainly not me time. I'm working from the moment I get on the train to when I get home and they're generally exhausting. I duck out of any 'fun' non-mandatory bits to make sure I'm home ASAP. Then I'm looking after my toddler before I leave and when I get back.

Going out for dinner/lunch my friends are generally 2 hour socialising max as we all have kids, so you're saying that if I get 12 hours of social time per year then that is perfectly fine...

Also household chores are definitely shared between the 3 of us. My mum does more, but mainly because she's the only one not working and she's particular about what we eat so doesn't like others cooking. I'm often up till late doing the washing up, cleaning the kitchen and putting washes on. I try and do as much as possible and keep things the way my mum likes.

Lastly, I do say thanks and show my appreciation, but like I said it feels constant and if I say anything 'out of line' I'm told off for being ungrateful.

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Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 15:19

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/10/2025 13:55

I was nervous if leaving when my l was in that situation.

Then l left. Ds was 2 1/2. I worried how I’d manage but l was fine. My family still babysat. But they came to my house.

That period of living with dm really affected my relationship with her for the rest of my life.

You just need to go.

Thanks for sharing. To be honest I also feel nervous about moving out, as when they've got away for a few weeks and I was managing on my own it felt impossible to keep on top of everything and I was constantly even more exhausted than usual and in the week stuck in the house on my own so even more lonley. I worry it'll be even worse on my own but hopefully it won't be as bad as it is my head.

Being a single parent is hard. I do want another relationship and hopefully more children in a family unit, but honestly I feel like I'll miss the boat on that as I'm so busy trying to keep all the plates spinning.

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Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 15:34

Dontlletmedownbruce · 15/10/2025 14:53

You are in a very difficult situation OP but I agree you need to move out and hopefully maintain a positive relationship with your parents.

As for the treatment of your siblings, it's more likely they will see you as being spoiled and indulged because of all the help you get. I've no doubt your parents complain to them about how exhausted they are from minding your kid. If the brother didn't get a lift that night because they are minding your child again I can see why that would be unfair too, probably more so. The unfairness and lack of social life and stress etc doesn't come from your parents or family, it stems from being a single mother with a young child. Life has dealt you a difficult hand there.

It sounds like you are all good people doing your best, but you and your parents both need separate spaces and they are not wrong for being frustrated, neither are you. I wonder would they help you financially if you rent your own place? It's another big ask but if they have means it might be worth it for them to regain their home. When you have your own space you can have friends over and do whatever you want, it will be so worth it even if you are living with very low disposable income.

Edited

The comment about me seeming indulged - I don't think my single younger brother thinks that at all - and I think he was a bit mortified when he found out I'd had to cancel my plans because he asked for a lift and seemed disappointed for me. It's just my mum has a habit of dropping everything immediately if he asks because he puts least effort in to see them.

However my other brother yes. It's obviously she's complained to him and we had a few fall outs to do with that (and also that we're both tired parents of very young children). In fact of all the family relationships, the one which is most strained because of this arrangement is the one between me and my brother with children which is a whole other story, but not really to do with childcare as they chose to live near his wife's parents instead.

Overall we all get on as a family and we're the sort that argue then continue on like nothing happened but I do feel like my mum wants us to move out but also doesn't want us to go far and I feel like that expectation is a bit unfair.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/10/2025 15:48

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 15:19

Thanks for sharing. To be honest I also feel nervous about moving out, as when they've got away for a few weeks and I was managing on my own it felt impossible to keep on top of everything and I was constantly even more exhausted than usual and in the week stuck in the house on my own so even more lonley. I worry it'll be even worse on my own but hopefully it won't be as bad as it is my head.

Being a single parent is hard. I do want another relationship and hopefully more children in a family unit, but honestly I feel like I'll miss the boat on that as I'm so busy trying to keep all the plates spinning.

I kind of miss those times when it was just me and little ds. And our cosy little house.They get easier.

I’m not a coper at all. The opposite in fact. There were tough bits. I managed.He did go to my ex every 3 weeks though.

NorthSouthEast · 15/10/2025 16:10

If you’d like another relationship in the future, you really do need to think about becoming more independent. How would you progress a relationship when you have to explain your every outing to your parents and ask for favours to have your dc looked after whilst you go in a date?

And if you read posts on here you’ll see that people do tend to find it a turn off if a late twenties onwards adult man is still living with parents, you may find your potential dating partners also find this a turn off.

it is lonely being a single parent, I can’t lie. But not all the time and the value you get from managing your own life and time would make up for it. Also you would cope better if you’re living to your own standards and not those of your parents. But it sounds like you don’t really want to make this change.

ApricotCheesecake · 15/10/2025 18:26

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 15:34

The comment about me seeming indulged - I don't think my single younger brother thinks that at all - and I think he was a bit mortified when he found out I'd had to cancel my plans because he asked for a lift and seemed disappointed for me. It's just my mum has a habit of dropping everything immediately if he asks because he puts least effort in to see them.

However my other brother yes. It's obviously she's complained to him and we had a few fall outs to do with that (and also that we're both tired parents of very young children). In fact of all the family relationships, the one which is most strained because of this arrangement is the one between me and my brother with children which is a whole other story, but not really to do with childcare as they chose to live near his wife's parents instead.

Overall we all get on as a family and we're the sort that argue then continue on like nothing happened but I do feel like my mum wants us to move out but also doesn't want us to go far and I feel like that expectation is a bit unfair.

Yes, I totally agree that it's unfair to want you to move out but not very far. You need to ignore that and choose the right place for you and DS.

kirrenmeade · 15/10/2025 19:51

So you've rented out your own house and are living for much less with your parents.
You also get lots of free childcare.

Yet, this is not enough for you as they dont do ALL the child care. This bothers you, so you've decided you dont need to be grateful for the childcare they give....?

You're nuts. OFC your parents want you to stay they're attached to the child, and ofc they want you to remain financially secure. That doesnt mean they need to do all the childcare for you and you dont have to been thankful for what they already do.

Im confused as to how you make so much money tbh, you cant figure this out?

kirrenmeade · 15/10/2025 19:53

AND they take care of a baby when you go on work trips!

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 20:12

@kirrenmeade Are you purposely ignoring what I actually wrote? In what part did I say they don't do enough? Or that I wasn't grateful? My issue is that I don't like being reminded constantly that they're doing me favours as it makes me and my son feel like a burden which is a horrible feeling and I worry about asking every time I have a meeting or work thing I have to go to.

For neither me or my parents is this about finance, but I pay my way and they're very happy I can save for me and my son's future at the same time. I would be financially secure if I left. Before they invited me to move in I already worked out I could afford all the bills and childcare on my own. It's not really about finance for either of us although they don't like me wasting money. I suggested renting nearby to get to know the area and they said this would me a waste of money, for instance.

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NewHat · 15/10/2025 20:21

So what if they are giving you mixed messages about moving out? I genuinely don’t see why that matters. Or that they want you to live close to them.

I really think you are in for a shock when you have to do everything yourself, if you ever do move out.

thisishowloween · 15/10/2025 20:21

Your're a grown woman with a child.

Stop relying on your parents, move out and get your independence.

gamerchick · 15/10/2025 20:34

Look, be an adult and make the adult decision to move out and seperate from your parents. It doesn't matter what they say about it. Just do it.

The new dynamic will form and they should start treating you like an adult.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/10/2025 20:38

I think you should do it gradually. Buy a house near them.And then just spend increasing amounts of time there with your ds. Build it up bit by bit. He’ll get easier, and you can work from home.

I would have left asap. I couldn’t stand my dm having any kind of hold over me. There’s no such thing as free childcare as the saying goes.

Mumptynumpty · 15/10/2025 20:39

Personally I would focus on things I have control over. Yes you could move out but it would be hard for you, your LO and your parents with travel being added to do picks ups to and from your new home.

What you can control is how you feel about the situation. Perhaps access a short course of therapy that helps you to be less invested in words that seem to wound you and eat away at your self esteem. Like an assertive self appraisal type thing.

Agree some structure and boundaries. You cook your way, she cooks hers. You will arrange a babysitter for social stuff (maybe an older person). Maybe have a family check meal each month to air difficulties before they become overwhelming.

stichguru · 15/10/2025 20:42

I think you need to try and have a honest conversation with your parents. I obviously don't know them and haven't spoken to them! I wonder though whether THEY are a bit confused at what they want? They clearly genuinely love you and your child and probably genuinely want to help you all they can. However to have you and your son living there and be helping you quite a lot probably is an inconvenience sometimes...

kirrenmeade · 15/10/2025 20:59

You're annoyed you cant have a social life thats built on them giving you more care and you're jealous of your brother for some reason.

You obviously dont want to more out as you dont have to think about taking care of your child. You just want them to act delighted to have to do it all for you and stop expecting you to show that youre grateful.

You'll obviously move out when you've save enough money and the kid isnt a baby anymore. Then you wont need them so much...

Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 21:18

kirrenmeade · 15/10/2025 20:59

You're annoyed you cant have a social life thats built on them giving you more care and you're jealous of your brother for some reason.

You obviously dont want to more out as you dont have to think about taking care of your child. You just want them to act delighted to have to do it all for you and stop expecting you to show that youre grateful.

You'll obviously move out when you've save enough money and the kid isnt a baby anymore. Then you wont need them so much...

Wrong on all accounts. I'm going to stop responding to you as you're obviously just a wind-up.

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Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 21:21

stichguru · 15/10/2025 20:42

I think you need to try and have a honest conversation with your parents. I obviously don't know them and haven't spoken to them! I wonder though whether THEY are a bit confused at what they want? They clearly genuinely love you and your child and probably genuinely want to help you all they can. However to have you and your son living there and be helping you quite a lot probably is an inconvenience sometimes...

Yes you're probably right. I should also mention my dad. My son is obsessed with my dad and gets really upset when he goes out. We all love my son, but it's also tiring looking after a toddler isn't it.

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Bunny44 · 15/10/2025 21:27

thisishowloween · 15/10/2025 20:21

Your're a grown woman with a child.

Stop relying on your parents, move out and get your independence.

I think this is unfair. Few women with a baby or toddler work full time and support themselves and their child with zero help. Most women I know with young children have a lot of family help or at least a partner AND work part time. Most single mums have financial help from the state or from an ex partner. It's quite a scary thing to think to do everything both financially and logistically on my own with no back up. I know I can do it but it's a lot and not many people actually do it.

Also to remind you that my parents wanted to help.

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