To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

Blair getting involved again is irritating, he’s also asking for lower top end tax rate. Basically Sunak and Truss type stuff, the things people on here rallied against.

https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/stay-informed/explainers/the-truth-about-asylum/

worth reading this - has actual facts rather than some of the totally ridiculous nonsense some have posted.

Parker, we’ve already established you live in a wealthy country 40 times our size and on the other side of the world, with zero illegal access routes by any war torn or theocratic country.

Do you really not see the hypocrisy in being on here advocating for the UK to take more immigrants when it is already very overcrowded?

I’m fully aware of the UK’s problems but incorrect facts are not helpful. I lived in the uk for many years - went to school and Uni there, worked there, have properties and a business there. Visit frequently and DC’s live in mainland Europe. Staying in London at the moment.

Agree. It’s clearly an issue and not just here but ROI and other EU countries.

It’s not wise to take information about a topic from an institute whose sole existence relies on that topic. They are financially motivated and therefore will pick and choose and represent the “facts” accordingly.

One quick example:

“41% of displaced people across the world are children”

yet 70% of asylum seekers in the uk are adult males…

Big difference between displaced people and asylum seekers.

What is the ridiculous nonsense anyway, which points do you have an issue with?

I find it very hard that wealthy, faraway countries with their abundance of space and zero chance of anyone reviving by small boat, should tell us otherwise. It smacks of arrogance and a lack of self awareness.

Why? Doesn’t one lead to the other in many cases?

Yes there is, isn’t there?

Strange how they’ve conflated them in “facts about asylum seekers” isn’t it? Almost exactly proves my point.

Yes it’s so removed. Of course it’s easy to say you must allow trafficking as a way to enter. It’s a terrible system.

I just looked it up - Canada has 40 million people and its habitable land is over 1 million km squared. By comparison the UK is 243,000 km squared - less than a quarter of this size. So Canadians have 4 times the habitable space, and nearly half our population.

So, not only will I not be taking instructions from them that I’m being ‘ridiculous’ not to accept more immigrants, I want to make a suggestion.

In the spirit of its tolerance and belief in asylum, I think Canada should set up asylum application centres directly in Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Sudan and Palestine. That way, these poor people have a chance of reaching them without taking to the icy waters of the Behring Strait. As a European I would be very happy for our airports to assist in flying them over, and I’m sure Canada will be all the more tolerant, diverse and booming for it. I should imagine they would be delighted to step and in and show us how the resettlement of millions of people from radically different cultures is done, and I’m sure we will see them happy together mingling on LGBT and women’s rights marches.

I won’t hold my breath though.

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"Let them eat cake".

Canada has similar problems to the uk . You also cannot apply if you are trying to claim asylum from coming across the US border although we hope to benefit from skilled workers applying for visas following Trump’s decision about H1-B visas.
The backlog for cases to be determined is over 200,000.

• 2024:
• Surpassed the 2023 record, with 173,756 asylum applications received according to UNHCR
• 2025:
• On track to surpass the 2024 record, with a 22% increase in claims during the first three months compared to the same period in 2024

Yes, these people seem to have endless empathy for some groups that include actual murderers, rapists and terrorists, yet zero empathy for people here.

What is their motivation? Some externally projected self hatred? Some warped sense of ultra benevolence? Who knows?

How interesting, you have the ‘same problems’ yet no small boats, no direct routes from the Middle East, you don’t allow asylum applications if people arrive ‘illegally’, and your peak immigration is from South America that to my knowledge poses little terrorism or Islamism threat to you.

You have properties in the UK, so I would guess you're reasonably well off. Well off people are much less impacted by immigration and asylum seekers.

But I hope you enjoy the warm fuzzy feeling of telling people in the UK that we should accept more undocumented males into our country, whether we like it or not.

What do you mean you cannot apply if you come across the US border?

If we put in similar we’d be fine.

You couldn’t make it up could you

Do they really lack this level of self awareness or do they just presume superiority and don’t care that they’re wrong?

You can apply online for asylum in Canada.

Officials will even meet you at the airport if you're successful. You then get the same state support as citizens.

Did you Google that part too, or just select parts of the information available?

Yes, and they have 4 x the capacity that we do - almost like it’s not the same at all 🤷‍♀️

I think your idea for the Canadian multi cultural utopia experiment is a good one.

I’d be fascinated to see how it goes.

I honestly think they just lack the self awareness. I’m guessing somebody with multiple properties and the option to live in Canada hasn’t had to spend prolonged periods of time living in Luton, or Chelmsford, or Glasgow, close to asylum hotels. I’m guessing their main contact with asylum seekers or immigrants has been the ‘incredible doctors I had at my last hospital appointment’ and not the ones who call you a fucking bitch because you serve them to wrong biscuits in your minimum wage job at an asylum hotel that eventually costs you your life. I’m guessing that poster’s children are highly educated and have options to move around the globe as it suits them, to wherever will give them the best life - they won’t be working in asylum hotels, or living on streets full of HMOs filled with men from Afghanistan.