To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

Right. So why would we import people who are MORE likely to commit crimes?

We had a serial rapist from HK recently who attacked over 50 women. He was here on a university visa I believe. So many migrants are here on visas and just as capable of committing crimes against women and there is so much more that we know happens at the likes of universities or workplaces that is never reported.

I feel like I've answered this question with my thinking at least 3 times on this thread now so at this stage if you're still determined to miss my point and just ignore points I've made then I really can't help you or make it any clearer. I think this is one of those cases where women are shockingly not a monolith and some just don't agree that a blanket ban on asylum is acceptable as a reaction to awful things a small percentage of asylum seekers have done.

Absolute bollocks. We're not talking about petty theft, we're talking about rape and murder, neither of which are borne from inadequate housing, poverty or negative societal influences. Think about what you're saying, it's not coming across in the way you hope to achieve I'm sure. The justification of violence against women is absolutely appalling.

Try your best at ...READING !!

I agree. These people are a lost cause and I’ve given up on them. Imagine being that much of a mealy mouthed appeaser.

I’m sure that brings great comfort to Rhiannon Skye White’s five year old son. What a fucking failure some of you are. You’ll kiss your privilege when it’s gone.

Vote Reform then.

Terrible case in Ireland this week, I haven't read the thread, if it was mentioned, a young 17 year international protection applicant from Ukraine, he only arrived 4 day's earlier, he was housed in underage accommodation with other minors seeking international protection, he was brutally stabbed in the through the face, neck, chest, hands by a Somalian 17 year old, the key worker was stabbed too. The young lad died on the way to the hospital.

The Netherlands and Sweden are having the same problems with mass immigration.
Ireland too, international protection applicants have exploded since Feb 22.
I don't think there is a country in Europe where the citizens feel valued.

Are you a Labour supporter? Not sure this kind of posting does much anymore.

Look after your own vote, not others. If you want to vote for them do.

@EmeraldShamrock000thst is horrific.

What on earth are you on about??

I’ve not said we should have a blanket ban on asylum.

We should be accepting women and children.

And it’s quite difficult to ascertain your point when you write 5 paragraph long essays with nothing but emotive waffle and refuse to acknowledge that countries which do dare to record crime stats are all reporting the overwhelming risk to women that asylum seekers men pose.

This isn’t a positive which means we should retain the system we have.

Especially since you’re saying it includes the extremely violent crimes against women and girls.

What?! There’s another! I notice the ‘they’re all just vulnerable people who want to work hard’ posters have gone very quiet now we are discussing the plethora of cases that have happened this week alone. For fucks sake, that poor lad.

I completely agree with you OP.

Every time I see the news of a boat on the channel, it all appears to be young single men 🤷‍♀️
i dont doubt for a minute some of those are genuine and can make an honest living however I don’t think enough is being done about the smugglers who are bringing them here illegally and are being paid a lot of money.

People also seem to forget that the Uk is much smaller in size than the likes of France and Germany and yet our population is larger than France.

That is awful - poor boy.

I was thinking about ‘asylum seekers’ overnight and some PPs idealised view that they are all wonderful people trained as doctors and scientists and who probably love kittens and puppies.

‘Asylum seeker’ implies a frightened person throwing themselves into the mercy of another country for protection. By normal human nature they would be happy to be away from violence and likely have a degree of gratitude and relief for the provision of safe haven.

Many men entering our country are clearly not like that. Why are PPs arguing in favour of these men, do they feel so privileged and protected that they’ll never get harmed like that poor kid? Do they lack imagination to such a disabling extent that they can’t see the issues? Are others being murdered just collateral damage so they can feel virtuous and benevolent?

Why is the empathy purely targeted at what they perceive to be ‘poor brown people’ who need their gracious benevolence and not at British people/actual asylum seekers whose lives are being ruined by them? Is this projected self hatred?

You are right. Appeasement is what it is. I won't spell it out here as the comment will be removed, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about in relation to that other issue the UK is facing, the increasingly louder and more unreasonable demands of a certain ideology.

There are huge parallels in the arguments and political manoeuvring designed to silence the general population belated immigration and trans activism (if that is what you mean?)

Some of the ‘arguments’ I see in these threads are actually identical to trans activists - it’s almost like they are working from the same anti democratic playbook.

Agreed. They think one (contraversial) thing that most of the rest of country will not agree with. And then shut down any dissent. The opposite of democracy.

Yes. It sounds dramatic but millions of lives were lost in the last century to defend our democracy and sovereignty, yet our leaders are currently just giving it away.

Awful, there has been a lot of violence between groups in the Ipas centres, including knife crime, but this 17 year old hurt my heart.

Last year, a man violently stabbed to death in Dublin, on St Annes street, prep and victim both from Ipas residence, both previously charged with rape, the man who died had been deported from Italy to Nigeria 2 years before his death for rape, then arriving for Ireland.
Who is doing these background checks, no one, finger print only checked after the hare has bolted
Had they of been checked, they wouldn't be living in Ipas hotels.

The stabber, google male teenager sexually assaulted in disused nightclub belfast, he offer teen a sneaky cigarette, then assaulted him.

Ireland rarely had non gangland random murders or random sexual assaults, most were domestic. Knife crime is up 68%.

Yes, that too of course, but I was thinking of a certain religion, I'm not sure if that's even the right word for it, it's the ideology that has grown from it and is becoming increasingly strident. Every couple of days we see a caving-in, whether it's football fans or park runs.

A Ukrainian teenager who was killed in a Tusla-run emergency accommodation unit in north Dublin suffered more than 100 stab wounds.
Eye's included. 😪

I think the men travel here first due to the dangers and risks of the channel. Once they’re here, they get their families across, probs by safer means. There were interviews on the news recently and the refugees interviewed admitted that too