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Men violently preventing women from congregating, communicating and networking, is what the Taliban do. Why is it happening in the UK?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/10/2025 12:27

The FiLiA Women's Liberation Conference was targeted overnight, the attackers even live tweeted the violence.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/25532194.live-brighton-centre-vandalised-feminist-conference-begins/

Local politicians are so far silent.

This is literally terrorism, using fear and violence to shut down legitimate peaceful discussions.

Video of the incident: https://x.com/TransBashBack/status/1976555969439223934

Live: Venue vandalised and protesters demonstrate at feminist conference

The Brighton Centre has been vandalised as a feminist conference begins there today.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/25532194.live-brighton-centre-vandalised-feminist-conference-begins/

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EasternStandard · 12/10/2025 09:42

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:38

So you're presenting them as a poor marginalised group, fighting for their 'rights' but can't even bring yourself to say what these are? What does that tell you?

I'm not presenting them as anything, it's a fact that they're a tiny minority.

I don't need to tell you anything, especially something you quite clearly already know. You asking is telling me that you don't actually have anything useful to add to the conversation yourself.

And you're arguing that 'upset' people will react. But there are legitimate grounds to being upset and illegitimate grounds. What do you think is going on here?

I'm not arguing it, it's a fact. If someone is upset, it's obviously legitimate to them, isn't it? Otherwise they would be upset.

Should we be fine with everyone who is 'upset' going round smashing windows? No of course not. These misogynists need to grow the hell up and act like reasonable adults. Why are you still making excuses for them?

I haven't made a single excuse for them, this is something you've made up in your own head and are now arguing against a position that doesn't exist.

Saying that I understand why people might behave in a certain way isn't 'making excuses for them'.

Why use violence?. Women are better at pushing back without it. Male aggression is one of the of the reasons we don’t want men there.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:43

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:14

What 'rights' are these men fighting for?

You know exactly what they want, why are you asking questions you already know the answer to?

And are you going answer my earlier question about what makes them so 'upset' about women upholding their legal rights to single sex spaces?

I didn't see your question. But if you can't figure it out for yourself, why don't you ask one of them? I'm not sure why you think I'd have any greater insight into than you, but it's hardly rocket science that people get upset when they're told that they can't have the things that they want, is it?

Because you are calling them "rights", what they want isn't a right they are entitled to, they already have the same rights as everyone else plus some extra protections extended to them by way of protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

Petitchat · 12/10/2025 09:45

Kimura · 12/10/2025 08:57

Men are not a minority. These are men.

I agree that they're men. But it's not 'men' that are fighting for trans rights is it? It's a tiny, tiny subsection of men who are trans. They have less public support, less resources and they started on the back foot. They are absolutely the minority in this scenario.

What rights do they need?

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:46

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:16

Imagine admitting that you're intimidated by that lot. How embarrassing.

Well aren't you brave 🙄

So you don't care about any of the women who are intimidated then, instead you'd rather call them embarrassing?

So that's a negative on the empathy from this one then. Looks like SingleSexSpacesInSchools was right, you're doing a fine job, keep it up!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 09:48

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:46

Well aren't you brave 🙄

So you don't care about any of the women who are intimidated then, instead you'd rather call them embarrassing?

So that's a negative on the empathy from this one then. Looks like SingleSexSpacesInSchools was right, you're doing a fine job, keep it up!

Yep. I called out this poster’s goady nonsense at the start of the thread. I haven’t changed my opinion.

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:50

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:38

I agree that they're men. But it's not 'men' that are fighting for trans rights is it?

Sorry to nit pick but that is incredibly contradictory isn't it? They're men, but not men, how does that work?

A tiny subsection of men with trans identities are still men, there is nothing tangible or measurable that distinguishes them from other men, nor is there anything tangible or measurable that makes them similar to women.

They have less public support, less resources and they started on the back foot. They are absolutely the minority in this scenario.

Well again sorry to be contradictory, but that's not entirely true either. For the last 20 years public support has been very much behind trans ideology, we can see that by the huge changes that have happened on a societal level across the globe. Just look at the provisions made for them, the change to language which obfuscated all meaning and dependant on the TRA speaker could mean interchangeable things. Look at the ever shifting goalposts with no pushback. Look at the changes to single sex spaces, schools, prisons.

Some of the support that was previously set aside specifically to support women as single sex services have been taken away from us because they were essentially made mixed sex (Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre), and in some cases funding has been denied because the providers of the service have wanted to continue providing the actually vulnerable and oppressed women retain their single sex life lines.

Some of the support was gained via stealth (prisons), the law was clarified by the Supreme Court in April and yet there is so much support for the trans ideology that the NHS, government, police, and other public services are still dragging their feet to comply.

They had huge resources with millions (billions?) of public funds in the UK going out as grants etc.

They did not start on the back foot at all, if you go back and look at what actually happened you'll see that over the years there was a slow build up then, wham! Suddenly there were men telling the world how they were the most oppressed, the most vulnerable, the tiniest of minorities... and yet such a small, oppressed, vulnerable minority has managed to wield incredible power to change so many things, and to silence very effectively their supposed oppressing class - those nasty feminists that won't let them steamroller over our actual rights.

Time and again the evidence shows that actually trans identified men are not oppressed at all.

We can see the vocal and violent TRAs are not vulnerable at all.

We know they are not subject to the same level of violence that women are subject to.

We know they are not a minority because they were, remain, and always will be men, the sex class that makes up half of the worlds population.

Sorry to nit pick but that is incredibly contradictory isn't it? They're men, but not men, how does that work?

Read it again.

Men are not a minority. These are men.

I said I agree that they are men. I said it's not 'men' fighting for trans rights. The subsection of men who are fighting for trans rights are a minority compared to the people opposing them, this is a fact.

If you're not willing or able to understand that, I'm not bothering to read the rest of your post.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:50

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 09:29

The original Speakers Corner event was when Maria McLachlan was beaten up by a group of men identifying as women. The police did very little at first, then women reported sightings of one of them and he was arrested. He was prosecuted, openly supported by “trans rights” groups like this one. He had posted on Facebook beforehand that he was specifically going there to “fuck up some terfs”. He got a slap on the wrist and a few hundred pound fine, which was reduced by the judge due to the “provocation” of the victim because she didn’t use his preferred pronouns.

Thank you.

That's so awful, poor Maria!

And posters like Kimura would have lurkers believe that these men are somehow righteous, or push the both sides argument.

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:51

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:43

Because you are calling them "rights", what they want isn't a right they are entitled to, they already have the same rights as everyone else plus some extra protections extended to them by way of protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

Presumably they want it to become a right that they're entitled to?

Petitchat · 12/10/2025 09:52

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:50

Sorry to nit pick but that is incredibly contradictory isn't it? They're men, but not men, how does that work?

Read it again.

Men are not a minority. These are men.

I said I agree that they are men. I said it's not 'men' fighting for trans rights. The subsection of men who are fighting for trans rights are a minority compared to the people opposing them, this is a fact.

If you're not willing or able to understand that, I'm not bothering to read the rest of your post.

What rights haven't they already got?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 09:52

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:50

Thank you.

That's so awful, poor Maria!

And posters like Kimura would have lurkers believe that these men are somehow righteous, or push the both sides argument.

I don’t think that pp has anything particularly valuable to contribute to this conversation.

StrongLikeMamma · 12/10/2025 09:55

StElwicksNeighbourhoodAssociation · 10/10/2025 12:33

Also it hasn't been on any major news channels or papers that I can see.

right?!

Petitchat · 12/10/2025 09:56

Isn't it frustrating when someone keeps harping on about trans rights but are unable to tell us what those missing rights are?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 09:56

Frustrating, and predictable.

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:59

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 09:50

Thank you.

That's so awful, poor Maria!

And posters like Kimura would have lurkers believe that these men are somehow righteous, or push the both sides argument.

And posters like Kimura would have lurkers believe that these men are somehow righteous, or push the both sides argument.

How many times do I have to say that I don't believe in what they stand for?

The tribalism here is frankly pathetic, to the point that anyone who strays an inch from the consensus narrative must be a secret trans activist or supporter.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 10:00

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:50

Sorry to nit pick but that is incredibly contradictory isn't it? They're men, but not men, how does that work?

Read it again.

Men are not a minority. These are men.

I said I agree that they are men. I said it's not 'men' fighting for trans rights. The subsection of men who are fighting for trans rights are a minority compared to the people opposing them, this is a fact.

If you're not willing or able to understand that, I'm not bothering to read the rest of your post.

That's fine, other people will read it, then they'll read your reply to it and be able to draw their own conclusions.

Trans identified men are still men, even if you swaddle them, ever so gently, in quotation marks.

If there is nothing tangible or measurable to distinguish men from other men who happen to have trans identities, well it becomes clear that they are just bog standard men.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 10:02

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 09:52

I don’t think that pp has anything particularly valuable to contribute to this conversation.

I know, but they were still a useful vehicle for me to put some points across, and as a bonus they asked for some links which other people will now be able to read.

There's a silver lining in every interrupteron 😉

TheKeatingFive · 12/10/2025 10:04

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:38

So you're presenting them as a poor marginalised group, fighting for their 'rights' but can't even bring yourself to say what these are? What does that tell you?

I'm not presenting them as anything, it's a fact that they're a tiny minority.

I don't need to tell you anything, especially something you quite clearly already know. You asking is telling me that you don't actually have anything useful to add to the conversation yourself.

And you're arguing that 'upset' people will react. But there are legitimate grounds to being upset and illegitimate grounds. What do you think is going on here?

I'm not arguing it, it's a fact. If someone is upset, it's obviously legitimate to them, isn't it? Otherwise they would be upset.

Should we be fine with everyone who is 'upset' going round smashing windows? No of course not. These misogynists need to grow the hell up and act like reasonable adults. Why are you still making excuses for them?

I haven't made a single excuse for them, this is something you've made up in your own head and are now arguing against a position that doesn't exist.

Saying that I understand why people might behave in a certain way isn't 'making excuses for them'.

You are saying 'upset people will respond and that very act IS legitimising and making excuses for them.

They have no grounds to be upset, they're just violent thugs who hate women - same as the incels.

Your attempts to make excuses for them, while pretending you aren't, are very transparent.

CohensDiamondTeeth · 12/10/2025 10:05

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:51

Presumably they want it to become a right that they're entitled to?

😂

Oh well! In that case, I guess it's all alright then!

Kimura · 12/10/2025 10:06

Petitchat · 12/10/2025 09:56

Isn't it frustrating when someone keeps harping on about trans rights but are unable to tell us what those missing rights are?

As frustrating as people repeatedly asking the same question they already know the answer to?

KeepTalkingBeth · 12/10/2025 10:06

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:16

Imagine admitting that you're intimidated by that lot. How embarrassing.

More abuser talk! Chilling

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 10:06

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:16

Imagine admitting that you're intimidated by that lot. How embarrassing.

What, by violent and aggressive men in balaclavas? Fwiw most teenage boys after the age of around 14 are probably capable of physically harming most adult women. Shaming women for being wary of men who vocally and openly wish them harm, and are capable of delivering it is despicable.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 10:08

Kimura · 12/10/2025 09:59

And posters like Kimura would have lurkers believe that these men are somehow righteous, or push the both sides argument.

How many times do I have to say that I don't believe in what they stand for?

The tribalism here is frankly pathetic, to the point that anyone who strays an inch from the consensus narrative must be a secret trans activist or supporter.

So far you have:

implied women are silly for being worried about violent trans rights activists, despite women having been assaulted by them on several occasions

told women they should be embarrassed by being intimidated by a group of violent men who hate us, because apparently their shite manifesto makes them incapable of hitting women

told women who asked you perfectly reasonable questions about your disingenuous flip flopping between justifying their activism and pretending you haven’t that they “must be on the wine”

implied that Filia was being provocative having a conference on TRA’s turf and should expect violent opposition, despite the number of lesbians there who are affected.

completely minimised this action and women’s concerns about these men.

So no.

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 10:11

Its not 'understandable' for men to feel the need to threaten, harass, intimidate women. Its not necessary.

If TRAs want to fight really hard for their cherished right to see women naked, they'll need to pursue that campaign through political means.

Kimura · 12/10/2025 10:16

TheKeatingFive · 12/10/2025 10:04

You are saying 'upset people will respond and that very act IS legitimising and making excuses for them.

They have no grounds to be upset, they're just violent thugs who hate women - same as the incels.

Your attempts to make excuses for them, while pretending you aren't, are very transparent.

No, me saying that upset people will respond is a fact. Every protest, every riot, every act of terrorism, every conflict in human history has started because people felt strongly enough about something to take action.

Pointing that out is not legitimizing or making excuses for them, unless you don't know what those words mean.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 10:17

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 10:11

Its not 'understandable' for men to feel the need to threaten, harass, intimidate women. Its not necessary.

If TRAs want to fight really hard for their cherished right to see women naked, they'll need to pursue that campaign through political means.

Quite.