To ask if most straight men are attracted much younger women?

[RubyTuesday10]

Had a depressing moment at work today, male colleague played a Jimmy Carr stand-up clip on his phone and it went along the lines of “if I had to pick my favourite child it would be my neighbour’s hot daughter.” The other men with him laughed at it. I couldn’t help feeling a bit nauseous and it’s made me question whether many older straight men actually do fantasise about girls in their late teens or whatever. Perhaps I have been naive to think it was something that just appealed to a minority of perverts. One or two of them have daughters too and it just strikes me as odd that they could even laugh at a joke like that. Am I naive to feel this way?

You really don't want to take these threads too seriously. They appear every now and again and fill up with the projections of women insecure about their own looks, with a sprinkling of incels and MRA types who want to make women feel they're worthless after 30 so better settle for any inadequate specimen who'll have them.
Reality is, it hardly matters if men want 19 year olds, given attractive young women wouldn't look at most of them sideways.
Most men are not dating much younger women. Most people date within 5 years either way. Your average Joe in his 40s is not going to be getting a hot young woman. He will not have 'aged better' than his female counterpart, so frankly will be lucky to get an average woman in her 40s unless he's loaded.
Don't fall for the propaganda.

Stop internalising this narcissists thoughts. Everything he has said about you is what he thinks of himself.

Also, as mentioned, records of everything and get the authorities involved. The guy sounds looney toons

There are studies that show when it comes to physical appearance yes, most straight men find women in their early 20s the most attractive to look at.

But (luckily for older women) for may men attraction and compatibility is a lot more than merely physical appearance.

There are similar charts to this:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/22/men-regardless-age-will-always-attracted-women-early-20s-8718590/amp/

I do think some of the men would have gone lower, if it was legal.

The whole point of the joke is that it's a revolting thing to say. That's where he gets his laugh.

That's what much of his act is.

If he had said. " My eldest" there would be no joke.

Luckily for men you mean. Because if they were only attracted to early 20s women most of them would have to be celibate once they hit 30.

Of course men notice pretty girls of all ages. Yes, a few of them do something about it. But it’s sad when a man who dares to say ‘That’s a pretty girl!’ is accused of being a perv.

There are girls that look like young women at 12-13. They obviously are not if you look at their face/ speak to them - but all men are seeing is a beautiful body/ nice skin etc.

My friend's daughter is 14 and she is taller then me and has much more defined feminine figure than I ever had. She is still a baby but she has men asking her out etc...even when out shopping with her mum...but, to be fair, most are running away when they realise her age.

They may be but middle aged men are rarely healthy (thinking of all the fat middle aged blokes I know ) & their sperm won't be in as good nick as it was when they were 18/19. Why would most young women look twice?

Do you really want to know the answer?

Most men find girls in their late teens attractive.

The main thing is that they know what's right, & therefore leave underage girls alone. Men who date only much younger women are also sneezy ofc, though it's legal.

Yes I had a school acquaintance who got asked out at 11 by an 18yo! 🤮 Tbf she DID look maybe 14 or possibly older? This was in Greece, I don't know if mores there are different towards young girls, hopefully not..

I also had an Italian friend whose had 14yo friends in Italy who tried to get her a 14yo boyfriend. She said they seemed to forget she was only 12..

Sadly yes. I'm 19 & I'd rather not believe that but it's best to accept reality... As I say, they're not bad unless they creep on underage girls.

Some things are just off limits for me to find funny even though I know it’s a joke

The reason the joke is funny is because it's outrageous. It's amazing people are missing this. It wouldn't be considered outrageous if it was perfectly acceptable.

Strictly speaking, a lot of men probs have innate attraction to teenage girls. We haven't evolved much in the past few hundred years since the times when women were marrying in adolescence.

You're missing the point.

It wouldn't be funny if there were no truth in it at all- people would just scratch their heads.

My mum told my nephew that if he ate too many strawberries, he would turn into one. Everyone laughed. Needless to say, there is no truth in that at all.

Walt Bismarck is a right wing Substack acquaintance of Mary Harrington (which is how I found out about him). I don't like him at all, he clearly has an unpleasant attitude to women, & he's a former white nationalist who still seems somewhat racist.

This excerpt from a piece on early female puberty, is, however, pinpointing something which unpleasant men are usually wise enough not to say. Bismarck, however, has no filter.

Sadly, I think that what he's saying is probably not that far from how a lot of men think - certainly more men than we'd like to believe.

'One thing I’ve noticed talking to various female friends / girlfriends over the years is that basically all of them complain about having been sexualized as a preteen girl in a very traumatic way. Usually these stories involve a sleepover / pool party at a friend’s house and creepy behavior from said friend’s dad or older brother. The other big one is being ogled or catcalled at Target or something.
It seems very obvious to me what is happening here.Girls are getting their periods and developing secondary sexual characteristics (boobs) 1-3 years earlier than they “should be” biologically. But they can’t psychologically handle the stresses of incipient womanhood (menstruation, intrasexual competition, sexual attention from men) because they still have the mind of a little girl.
Most men aren’t going to touch this with a ten foot pole, because whenever you point out this phenomenon around normies you inevitably get some hatchet-faced schoolmarm going “WELL MEN SHOULDN’T BE LOOKING AT YOUNG GIRLS ANYWAY” and implying you’re a pedophile for even talking about this. Men are extremely afraid of being called pedophiles, so this shuts down all discussion.
Most of these women are simply retarded low openness bigots, but some are just reacting to their own adolescent trauma in an unproductive way, and I have a lot of sympathy for them. But this kind of censorious impulse is incredibly toxic and doesn’t help young girls at all. When trying to solve difficult social problems on the ground we must speak candidly about the world that actually exists, not the world that should be.
A lot of girls complain about creepy looks from their friend’s dad at a pool party. Suspiciously few of them wonder if anyone says the same thing about their own dad.If they did I think they’d start approaching this from a more constructive direction.
Unfortunately, normies don’t really care about arguments and facts. They care about personal credibility and a position’s prestige coding.'

I think they're attracted to them because they're bodies haven't birthed children and not that they'd produce healthy ones.

Should be remembered that 'sleep with' is very different to 'be with'- especially for men.

Yes, imo an adult man dating a 16yo is 🤮 but it was legal to marry at that age until recently.

12....so that makes Humbert Humbert not a paedophile for being attracted to poor Lolita...

Not convinced by what you say...

Yes my grandmother was pretty sure at least one man at the school she taught at was having 'relationships' with the girls. Apparently no one reported him..

Incidentally in Anne of Green Gables, I remember that the 16yo Priscilla is in a relationship with the teacher & it doesn't seem to be a big deal.. 🤢 1908 Canada..

You obviously don't understand how comedy works- The strawberry comment is not funny and is not meant to be- so how is it relevant?