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To wonder if Greta will acknowledge her blunder?

171 replies

mumandmumber · 08/10/2025 16:42

Regarding Greta using a photo of emaciated Israeli hostage Evyatar David on a poster/content slide regarding the suffering of Palestinian prisoners.

She & the affiliated have since edited/rectified but seems to be without any acknowledgement or comment from anyone from her or her team… yet.
AIBU to think that’s quite a major gaffe that warrants acknowledgment from her end?

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olderandnonthewiser · 08/10/2025 21:49

localnotail · 08/10/2025 21:48

She is already grown up, how old is she? over 20, surely?

Age isn’t relevant. I meant maturity

Icreatedausernameyippee · 08/10/2025 21:59

Technically he's starving in the man made famine in Gaza. So it's not wrong.

freakingscared · 08/10/2025 22:03

She won’t , she lives in LALA land , a spiked brat , with very rich parents and nil responsibilities.
I don’t think people even realise she is paid hundreds of thousands for these gigs

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 22:04

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:30

Well, I’ve been told Greta didn’t even author the post. If that’s correct, that would go a long way to explain why she deleted it and left it for the actual authors to explain their thought processes.

That means your “she said” is what is implausible..

Anything to try to abdicate responsibility for her. Remember Gary Lineker didn't actually author the tweet that he apologised unreservedly for retweeting? It went out under her name on her account to her many followers. She has to take responsibility for it.

You know Greta was hanging out with an actual holocaust denier on the flotilla? Care to defend that too?

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 22:04

Icreatedausernameyippee · 08/10/2025 21:59

Technically he's starving in the man made famine in Gaza. So it's not wrong.

Not wrong to call him a Palestinian prisoner instead of an Israeli hostage? Are you sure?

GoldPoster · 08/10/2025 22:05

Summerhillsquare · 08/10/2025 17:44

I expect she's concentrating on her mission, first of all campaigning for action on climate change, and now also to try and stop a genocide. Thank goodness we have such people in the world, not because they are perfect but because they TRY to make the world a better place. Better to try, make mistakes, fail, try again, than not to care or do nothing.

It’s not genocide

TempestTost · 08/10/2025 22:08

Newsenmum · 08/10/2025 21:35

I havent seen this particular link. However Im genuinely struggling to see how someone can hate her. She’s given up her entire life to activism. She’s trying so fucking hard risking her life constantly. You can see how distressed she is in parts of it.

I think people dislike her because not because they don't think she is in earnest, but because they see her as a kind ofperson who is a fool and so ends up making her causes look foolish. She doesn't really understand the politics, any more than she understood the problems of climate change.

And yet she goes on, freaking out, and admonishing others for not doing so, and in many cases wasting people's time and energy or even putting people in danger.

Bundleflower · 08/10/2025 22:09

GoldPoster · 08/10/2025 22:05

It’s not genocide

How is it not? It’s genocide in every single sense of the word. It might not suit your political, religious or just personal persuasions but it’s absolutely genocide, I’m afraid.

SwanRivers · 08/10/2025 22:10

Has she shared details of her kidnap and torture yet, or is she still being sketchy about it?

User37482 · 08/10/2025 22:10

Icreatedausernameyippee · 08/10/2025 21:59

Technically he's starving in the man made famine in Gaza. So it's not wrong.

Yeah I don’t think Hamas are starving, thats just for the civilians. I really hope this all ends soon, the suffering is real.

Does it matter if the person suffering is an Israeli or Palestinian? We have lost our humanity when we can dismiss suffering so easily. People may have different ideas of who’s responsible for this shitshow and what should happen next but seeing an emaciated person who’s been starved and forced to dig their own grave should hurt regardless of what their ethnicity or nationality is.

If it doesn’t hit the same for you regardless of where they happened to be born then you have ideology not morality.

Dollymylove · 08/10/2025 22:14

I wonder who is bankrolling the "aid" flotilla 🤔🤔

scalt · 08/10/2025 22:19

Did Greta’s handler pull the wrong string?

I’m sure she has an unseen handler or strategist who tells her what to say, and when to say it. It’s funny that she went quiet during lockdown, when climate change had been displaced from the panique du jour, and she didn’t even pop up to say “you see, it’s not so bad after all, not being able to travel”.

BloodandGlitter · 08/10/2025 22:19

Such nasty misogynistic language about a young woman from grown ass women, where is all your hatred for the hundreds of spoiled children of celebrities who do nothing but party and drink? She could do that instead, as she has no responsibilities. Instead, she tries to raise awareness about causes that obviously matter to her and your reaction is to call her "an odious creature" "a silly little girl" and other nasty things.
Some of you should take a look in the mirror at yourselves and ask what the hell you are actually contributing to the world apart from spitting poison on an anonymous forum.

LandRites · 08/10/2025 22:23

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:43

GTs Gaza activities risk alienating the sympathies of people who are needed on board the environmental cause.

As a devoted Green Party voter since I was old enough to vote (1990), I don’t agree with this.

Environmentalism requires peace activism.

https://www.business-school.ed.ac.uk/about/news/calculating-climate-impacts-destruction-gaza

”Researchers have recently begun to measure military impacts on climate change. Such efforts have gained more attention since Russia’s war on Ukraine, as researchers seek to numerate climate impacts relating to the destruction of buildings, infrastructure and agricultural lands, the burning of fighter jet fuel, the production, delivery and deployment of armaments, and movements of displaced populations. This work is both important yet challenging, as military emissions is often excluded from global climate reporting despite contributing an estimated 5.5% of annual global emissions.
From this perspective, Israel’s near total devastation of Gaza isn’t just a human tragedy, but can be seen as an attack on the climate. Building on work that sought to model carbon emissions resulting from the Russia-Ukraine war, researchers have begun to examine the climate impacts of Israel’s war on Gaza. Researchers at the University of Edinburgh Business School have contributed to these estimates by advancing a more comprehensive approach to calculating both the carbon emissions and work required to collect and process the estimated 32 million tonnes of debris resulting from destroyed and damaged buildings (42 million tonnes if roads and other infrastructure are included).”

Wars are extremely damaging to the environment and the Gaza war has been especially so. https://theecologist.org/2025/sep/24/environment-casualty-war

”According to reports, Israeli military operations in Gaza have generated more planet-heating emissions in just two months than the annual output of some 20 climate-vulnerable nations. The vast majority of the 281,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide released in the first 60 days of the conflict – more than 99 per cent – stemmed from Israel’s aerial bombardments and ground intervention. That figure is equivalent to burning at least 150,000 tonnes of coal. By contrast, Hamas rocket fire into Israel during the same period produced an estimated 713 tonnes of emissions – roughly the same as burning 300 tonnes of coal. Reports have also pointed to Israel’s use of white phosphorus shells, a weapon that contaminates soil and can cause long-term environmental harm.”

UN’s recent report on the Gaza war’s environmental impact:
https://www.unep.org/resources/report/environmental-impact-escalation-conflict-gaza-strip

https://wedocs.unep.org/handle/20.500.11822/48536

I respectfully disagree. As a long time environmental campaigner, I have come across this argument that all current political issues that various activists are engaged with are connected to the environment and must either be campaigned about alongside, accepted ideologically if environmentalism is to be accepted or solved before we're even allowed to campaign on the environment.

It has so often hindered pragmatic environmental campaigns and turned off support.

I have met supposed environmental campaigners who would happily have their ideological omnicause validated at the expense of the actual environment. I consider the UK Green Party to be a prime example of this.

User37482 · 08/10/2025 22:29

I actually worry that she’s being taken advantage of more than anything. There was a schism over LGBTQ support wasn’t there? I’m not sure if she’s entirely honest with herself she is aligned with some of the views expressed by the Gazan representatives, not sure she’s fully competent. She spent her childhood campaigning instead of learning. It’s not great is it. She’s small and looks childlike and thats why this works, but imo she’s still very much a child, she’s not had a normal childhood but she’s being used as a figurehead. It never even occurred to her that some arabs may not want to be associated with LGBTQ support due to religious and cultural biases.

Dollymylove · 08/10/2025 22:30

BloodandGlitter · 08/10/2025 22:19

Such nasty misogynistic language about a young woman from grown ass women, where is all your hatred for the hundreds of spoiled children of celebrities who do nothing but party and drink? She could do that instead, as she has no responsibilities. Instead, she tries to raise awareness about causes that obviously matter to her and your reaction is to call her "an odious creature" "a silly little girl" and other nasty things.
Some of you should take a look in the mirror at yourselves and ask what the hell you are actually contributing to the world apart from spitting poison on an anonymous forum.

Her demeanor doesnt exactly endear her to people. Might improve if she stopped acting like a pocket sized dictator 🤣

GoldPoster · 08/10/2025 22:31

Bundleflower · 08/10/2025 22:09

How is it not? It’s genocide in every single sense of the word. It might not suit your political, religious or just personal persuasions but it’s absolutely genocide, I’m afraid.

The UK government concluded in September that it didn’t meet the criteria for genocide. Article 11 of the genocide convention doesn’t include cultural genocide. Palestinians aren’t an ethnic or religious group. They could be considered a national group, but Gaza isn’t Palestine. Furthermore the intent has to be to completely destroy the group as a whole. Not all Palestinians live in Gaza, under the control of Hamas.

olderandnonthewiser · 08/10/2025 22:33

BloodandGlitter · 08/10/2025 22:19

Such nasty misogynistic language about a young woman from grown ass women, where is all your hatred for the hundreds of spoiled children of celebrities who do nothing but party and drink? She could do that instead, as she has no responsibilities. Instead, she tries to raise awareness about causes that obviously matter to her and your reaction is to call her "an odious creature" "a silly little girl" and other nasty things.
Some of you should take a look in the mirror at yourselves and ask what the hell you are actually contributing to the world apart from spitting poison on an anonymous forum.

Or you could objectively criticise someone’s behaviour without having to resort to cries of ‘misogyny’.

MarmellataInnamorata · 08/10/2025 22:42

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 19:55

The fact that a hostage of Hamas looks just as starved and abused as a detainee of the IDF such that photos of them are almost indistinguishable is what we should be discussing.

Except that all the Palestinian terrorists (murderers and rapists) released from Israeli prisons in the two exchanges that have taken place during the conflict looked to be in rude health, actually.

In fact, some of them seemed so healthy and full of beans that they celebrated by firing Kalashnikovs into the air. Funny, that.

I just saw Greta’s post in The Times. The image featuring that man with the Star of David supposedly carved into his face is absolutely laughable. There’s no way that’s real.

It reminds me of the teenager who was released from an Israeli prison last year (yes, teenagers can be terrorists too, Hamas starts them young). There’s video footage showing him leaving Israeli custody completely unharmed. Yet shortly after, he appeared in Pan-Arab media with both arms “broken,” and Israel was blamed. Spoiler: the casts were fake. You couldn’t make it up!

https://www.firstpost.com/world/watch-hamas-shenanigans-smashed-teen-terrorist-freed-by-israel-wears-false-cast-on-hands-caught-lying-on-camera-13445422.html/amp

wineosaurusrex · 08/10/2025 22:48

Summerhillsquare · 08/10/2025 17:44

I expect she's concentrating on her mission, first of all campaigning for action on climate change, and now also to try and stop a genocide. Thank goodness we have such people in the world, not because they are perfect but because they TRY to make the world a better place. Better to try, make mistakes, fail, try again, than not to care or do nothing.

Absolutely agree!

stomachamelon · 08/10/2025 22:51

@FiatLuxAdAstrado you have any proof of that? As in photographic like the one she posted?

Coatsoff42 · 08/10/2025 22:52

I feel like she is going to have a very interesting life. It’s been action packed already. She’ll have a good biography, I reckon.

MarmellataInnamorata · 08/10/2025 22:59

Bundleflower · 08/10/2025 22:09

How is it not? It’s genocide in every single sense of the word. It might not suit your political, religious or just personal persuasions but it’s absolutely genocide, I’m afraid.

It’s not a genocide@Bundleflower. Just a war don’t like (presumably because the side you hate is winning).

Still, I’d like to see all your concerned posts shining light on the genocide in Sudan, the genocide being committed against Nigeria’s Christians, and the 275 odd Druze women who have been taken hostage by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). Do you think you could provide a link?

Bundleflower · 08/10/2025 23:05

MarmellataInnamorata · 08/10/2025 22:59

It’s not a genocide@Bundleflower. Just a war don’t like (presumably because the side you hate is winning).

Still, I’d like to see all your concerned posts shining light on the genocide in Sudan, the genocide being committed against Nigeria’s Christians, and the 275 odd Druze women who have been taken hostage by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS). Do you think you could provide a link?

Wow. The level of projection in your post is insane. I worry for the world with people like you in it.

I don’t ‘hate’ either side. It’s a really bizarre view that seems to be thrown around that if you dare express concern for Palestine that you somehow ‘hate’ Israel. And nobody is ‘winning’ - don’t be such an idiot. Do you own a tv? Do you see the sheer amount of death on both ‘sides’?

It’s genocide. Just because the ‘side’ you support is ‘winning’ by killing more people, it doesn’t mean a win for anybody.

Shame on you. Your language speaks volumes.

Edited to add: just because you clearly ‘hate’ the other ‘side’ it doesn’t mean it isn’t genocide.

Blinky21 · 08/10/2025 23:07

Why should she? Honest mistake