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To wonder if Greta will acknowledge her blunder?

171 replies

mumandmumber · 08/10/2025 16:42

Regarding Greta using a photo of emaciated Israeli hostage Evyatar David on a poster/content slide regarding the suffering of Palestinian prisoners.

She & the affiliated have since edited/rectified but seems to be without any acknowledgement or comment from anyone from her or her team… yet.
AIBU to think that’s quite a major gaffe that warrants acknowledgment from her end?

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TheRealCrispConspiracy · 08/10/2025 21:06

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Morningsleepin · 08/10/2025 21:08

Are there really so many women in the UK who are totally indifferent to a televised genocide?

Morningsleepin · 08/10/2025 21:08

Are there really so many women in the UK who are totally indifferent to a televised genocide?

1457bloom · 08/10/2025 21:11

It’s brilliant that she brings a spotlight to the atrocities in Gaza.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:13

mumandmumber · 08/10/2025 21:05

Yes exactly, or that if your interpretation is correct.

Instead they just adjusted/edited it without a word. Even after Evyatar’s sister pointed him out. If your theory is correct, I would have thought they’d explain the misinterpretation…

It would be nice if they did explain themselves. I know my impressions (very kind of you to call it a theory/interoretation) are speculative.

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 21:14

Neverbeentothegym · 08/10/2025 19:14

How is she vile?? She is literally putting her life on the line, using her privilege to shine a light on an actual genocide.

She’s making a mockery of it. Remember her last escapade trying to get aid into Gaza that would have probably fed a family of four? She makes everything about her. Any photo opportunity and cause which she thinks will make her relevant, and she’s there. She was lauded when she initially raised the climate issue. Breath of fresh air. But now she’s being exploited by people who use her for their own agendas. People are laughing at her. It’s embarrassing.

mumandmumber · 08/10/2025 21:17

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No one here is denying the suffering in Gaza. It’s horrific, and the images and reports speak for themselves. But pointing that out doesn’t excuse mistakes that spread misinformation or contribute to hostility elsewhere.
Greta Thunberg’s message about Gaza’s suffering is one thing; using the image of an Israeli hostage is another. That error matters because it deepens distrust and pain at a time when accuracy is critical. Criticising that isn’t “sick”! It’s about accountability.
People can care deeply about Palestinians and still call out errors that distort the conversation or risk fueling antisemitism. It’s possible to hold both truths at once: Gaza’s suffering is real, and public figures have a duty to communicate responsibly.
Dismissing anyone who points that out as immoral doesn’t help, it just shuts down discussion when what’s really needed is clarity and empathy for everyone affected.

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BadgernTheGarden · 08/10/2025 21:17

Summerhillsquare · 08/10/2025 17:44

I expect she's concentrating on her mission, first of all campaigning for action on climate change, and now also to try and stop a genocide. Thank goodness we have such people in the world, not because they are perfect but because they TRY to make the world a better place. Better to try, make mistakes, fail, try again, than not to care or do nothing.

She seems to spend most of her time sailing happily around the world with other people paying for her extended holidays. Nice job if you can get it.

AngelinaFibres · 08/10/2025 21:20

jen337 · 08/10/2025 18:14

The Party informs you that the subject of today’s two minute hate will be Greta Thunberg.

Only 2 minutes. Gosh I could hate the pointless lile creature for so much longer than that.

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 21:20

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:00

Then why the bit directly above the photos highlighted in yellow:
“Humanity cannot be selective. Justice cannot have borders”

What would the first refer to if not to the collective humanity of Palestinians and Israelis. What would the second refer to if not the border between Israel and the Gaza Strip?

To my view the intro asserting that Palestinian prisoners are systematically abused is only because that is a contested issue. No one contests that Hamas has been systematically abusing their Israeli hostages, so no need to state that.

I honestly see a post that tried to not be one sided. The backlash was from all sides- especially the extremists on both sides that cannot see the humanity in either Israelis or Palestinians.

And when people got confused she explained and said how dreadful the situation of the hostages is and that she wanted to highlight this?

Or did she delete the post?

I think you are trying to spin this because you want to believe that Greta wouldn't do something like this and is actually concerned about the hostages, but it is so much of a stretch as to be completely implausible. She said Palestinian prisoners because she meant Palestinian prisoners, it's as straightforward as that.

Someone yesterday tried to convince me that Bob Vylan wasn't calling for the death of IDF soldiers when he said Death to the IDF..... why should we not believe the words that people use?

MrsLizzieDarcy · 08/10/2025 21:24

She's a prime example of an immature and naive child that was repeatedly told how clever she was - even though she really wasn't. Now an entitled and privileged young woman with absolutely no idea of the real world and how it works. The sooner the media start to ignore her, the better.

LooseCanyon · 08/10/2025 21:27

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You're missing the point. With that photo, whoever posted it thought they were pointing out how badly Palestinians are being treated. When it was, in fact, a photo of an Israeli and how badly he is being treated by the Palestinians.

No wonder they've deleted it. It didn't fit in with their agenda.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:30

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 21:20

And when people got confused she explained and said how dreadful the situation of the hostages is and that she wanted to highlight this?

Or did she delete the post?

I think you are trying to spin this because you want to believe that Greta wouldn't do something like this and is actually concerned about the hostages, but it is so much of a stretch as to be completely implausible. She said Palestinian prisoners because she meant Palestinian prisoners, it's as straightforward as that.

Someone yesterday tried to convince me that Bob Vylan wasn't calling for the death of IDF soldiers when he said Death to the IDF..... why should we not believe the words that people use?

Well, I’ve been told Greta didn’t even author the post. If that’s correct, that would go a long way to explain why she deleted it and left it for the actual authors to explain their thought processes.

That means your “she said” is what is implausible..

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:32

LooseCanyon · 08/10/2025 21:27

You're missing the point. With that photo, whoever posted it thought they were pointing out how badly Palestinians are being treated. When it was, in fact, a photo of an Israeli and how badly he is being treated by the Palestinians.

No wonder they've deleted it. It didn't fit in with their agenda.

That is one of several plausible interpretations. Don’t forget there were 3 photos of 3 different men.

LandRites · 08/10/2025 21:32

BloodandGlitter · 08/10/2025 19:32

You know it's possible to think two things at once? You can campaign against global warming while being concerned about Gaza and vice versa. The Genocide in Gaza is a very immediate problem.
Some really pathetic people on here crying about other people trying to make the world better.

It matters when climate change / environmental campaigners take on a portfolio of other current causes. Climate change, the pollution of natural environments and loss of biodiversity is a growing global concern, even crisis. It overshadows all our societies. It will take a huge persuasive effort to get nations, corporations and populations to believe it's in their interests to co-operate sufficiently to mitigate the worst of it.

When someone like GT is pushed forward as a key environmental campaign voice, it not only creates noise for and confuses the original campaign messages but foregrounds her taking sides on a divisive geo-political situation (which she doesn't appear to understand in any depth). If environmental action is to be taken, it requires the broadest consensus, so GTs Gaza activities risk alienating the sympathies of people who are needed on board the environmental cause.

The environmental crisis isn't going away and a conflict like Gaza shouldn't become some kind of BOGOF deal with climate campaigns just because GT has a new cause. For what it's worth, I think she's becoming a liability to any campaigns.

Newsenmum · 08/10/2025 21:35

I havent seen this particular link. However Im genuinely struggling to see how someone can hate her. She’s given up her entire life to activism. She’s trying so fucking hard risking her life constantly. You can see how distressed she is in parts of it.

TheRealCrispConspiracy · 08/10/2025 21:37

mumandmumber · 08/10/2025 21:17

No one here is denying the suffering in Gaza. It’s horrific, and the images and reports speak for themselves. But pointing that out doesn’t excuse mistakes that spread misinformation or contribute to hostility elsewhere.
Greta Thunberg’s message about Gaza’s suffering is one thing; using the image of an Israeli hostage is another. That error matters because it deepens distrust and pain at a time when accuracy is critical. Criticising that isn’t “sick”! It’s about accountability.
People can care deeply about Palestinians and still call out errors that distort the conversation or risk fueling antisemitism. It’s possible to hold both truths at once: Gaza’s suffering is real, and public figures have a duty to communicate responsibly.
Dismissing anyone who points that out as immoral doesn’t help, it just shuts down discussion when what’s really needed is clarity and empathy for everyone affected.

Hi OP. Yes, you have a point and using the photo of one the hostages is indeed quite an unfortunate blunder that might cause pain to his family or friends. I'm glad you acknowledge that there is a genocide. Personally I think her mistake is trivial compared to that. To me picking on this mistake and especially when followed by all this crazy vitriol agains her by other posters sounded like just another way to trivialise or deny the reality of what she is trying to bring attention to. I'm glad that's not your intention and I'm sorry I called you sick!!

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:43

LandRites · 08/10/2025 21:32

It matters when climate change / environmental campaigners take on a portfolio of other current causes. Climate change, the pollution of natural environments and loss of biodiversity is a growing global concern, even crisis. It overshadows all our societies. It will take a huge persuasive effort to get nations, corporations and populations to believe it's in their interests to co-operate sufficiently to mitigate the worst of it.

When someone like GT is pushed forward as a key environmental campaign voice, it not only creates noise for and confuses the original campaign messages but foregrounds her taking sides on a divisive geo-political situation (which she doesn't appear to understand in any depth). If environmental action is to be taken, it requires the broadest consensus, so GTs Gaza activities risk alienating the sympathies of people who are needed on board the environmental cause.

The environmental crisis isn't going away and a conflict like Gaza shouldn't become some kind of BOGOF deal with climate campaigns just because GT has a new cause. For what it's worth, I think she's becoming a liability to any campaigns.

GTs Gaza activities risk alienating the sympathies of people who are needed on board the environmental cause.

As a devoted Green Party voter since I was old enough to vote (1990), I don’t agree with this.

Environmentalism requires peace activism.

https://www.business-school.ed.ac.uk/about/news/calculating-climate-impacts-destruction-gaza

”Researchers have recently begun to measure military impacts on climate change. Such efforts have gained more attention since Russia’s war on Ukraine, as researchers seek to numerate climate impacts relating to the destruction of buildings, infrastructure and agricultural lands, the burning of fighter jet fuel, the production, delivery and deployment of armaments, and movements of displaced populations. This work is both important yet challenging, as military emissions is often excluded from global climate reporting despite contributing an estimated 5.5% of annual global emissions.
From this perspective, Israel’s near total devastation of Gaza isn’t just a human tragedy, but can be seen as an attack on the climate. Building on work that sought to model carbon emissions resulting from the Russia-Ukraine war, researchers have begun to examine the climate impacts of Israel’s war on Gaza. Researchers at the University of Edinburgh Business School have contributed to these estimates by advancing a more comprehensive approach to calculating both the carbon emissions and work required to collect and process the estimated 32 million tonnes of debris resulting from destroyed and damaged buildings (42 million tonnes if roads and other infrastructure are included).”

Wars are extremely damaging to the environment and the Gaza war has been especially so. https://theecologist.org/2025/sep/24/environment-casualty-war

”According to reports, Israeli military operations in Gaza have generated more planet-heating emissions in just two months than the annual output of some 20 climate-vulnerable nations. The vast majority of the 281,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide released in the first 60 days of the conflict – more than 99 per cent – stemmed from Israel’s aerial bombardments and ground intervention. That figure is equivalent to burning at least 150,000 tonnes of coal. By contrast, Hamas rocket fire into Israel during the same period produced an estimated 713 tonnes of emissions – roughly the same as burning 300 tonnes of coal. Reports have also pointed to Israel’s use of white phosphorus shells, a weapon that contaminates soil and can cause long-term environmental harm.”

UN’s recent report on the Gaza war’s environmental impact:
https://www.unep.org/resources/report/environmental-impact-escalation-conflict-gaza-strip

https://wedocs.unep.org/handle/20.500.11822/48536

Carbon emissions and climate costs of Israel’s war on Gaza

In reconstruction of Gaza, emissions will be biggest element, carbon accounting expert Lennard de Klerk tells Anadolu - Anadolu Ajansı

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/environment/carbon-emissions-and-climate-costs-of-israel-s-war-on-gaza/3115615?utm_source=chatgpt.com

mumandmumber · 08/10/2025 21:44

FiatLuxAdAstra · 08/10/2025 21:30

Well, I’ve been told Greta didn’t even author the post. If that’s correct, that would go a long way to explain why she deleted it and left it for the actual authors to explain their thought processes.

That means your “she said” is what is implausible..

As in 2 previous posts in conversation with you, it was never said for sure she didn’t author it.
The point was that she MAY not have and that it was posted on her instagram in a joint post with some fellow campaigners.
It appears to come from Greta’s camp but it’s was just a note that we aren’t sure.

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Bundleflower · 08/10/2025 21:45

Cantspeakwontspeak · 08/10/2025 18:11

what I don’t understand is the switch from the climate to Gaza, I thought global warming was still a problem? Secondly I wondered if someone had set her up because it’s so stupid and really shines a light on the lack of critical thinking

Wild idea but you can care about the environment AND genocide at once.
She should apologise for this element though, absolutely.

localnotail · 08/10/2025 21:45

I'm really sad about people of Gaza and I think the situation in there is horrific for everyone, however, I find people using this tragedy for posturing, self promotion and publicity truly disguising.

soupyspoon · 08/10/2025 21:47

Summerhillsquare · 08/10/2025 18:10

Sorry you find activism boring @Vaxtable.

Probably not too boring to claim your share of the spoils though?

She's not an activist really though is she, she's an actor, a performer, for herself mainly. Perhaps not her fault, she has autism and people with autism can have narrow focuses and a limited understanding of the nuance of situations, equally finding ti difficult to process social communication and meanings and dynamics.
Its her obsession because she is obsessed, not necessarily because its the right thing or the right way to get results on something.

olderandnonthewiser · 08/10/2025 21:47

She makes me wince. I wonder when she grows up she will also cringe at her naivety.

localnotail · 08/10/2025 21:47

I suspect she got either brainwashed or paid for this.

localnotail · 08/10/2025 21:48

olderandnonthewiser · 08/10/2025 21:47

She makes me wince. I wonder when she grows up she will also cringe at her naivety.

She is already grown up, how old is she? over 20, surely?