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To feel like the tide of public opinion has turned against the pro-palestine protestors

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JKLolling · 07/10/2025 21:36

Every social media feed I have is full of irate people commenting on pro-gaza protestors.

From people commenting on Greta Thunberg sharing the picture of the starving hostage and claiming it was a Palestinian (wtf was she thinking?!) , to the student saying Israelis should 'go back where they came from', there are thousands of angry comments. Lots of the protestors hiding their faces too, and on a local Uni group people are trying to name the protestors seen today and get them removed from their courses

I'm disgusted with what I've seen today, and it feels like the tide is turning and people are seeing these protests for what they really are: an opportunity for hate-filled morons to get together and intimidate people. I feel like they've completely ruined their cause just because they couldn't wait a day to protest.

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SirBobblysock · 09/10/2025 11:21

@TicklishMauveSquid no, Netanyahu did not put Hamas in power, but he both actively and tacitly supported them and completely underestimated the risk they posed. And the reason he wanted a counterweight to the PLO was because he wanted to destroy any option for the two-state agreement so he was blinded to the risk. He had already actively derailed the Oslo Accords (on his own admission) and, many Israelis would argue, incited the assassination of Rabin who was possibly the best option for peace through a two-state solution in recent times (although I am not naive enough to think there were not barriers on both sides). You clearly agree with Natanyahu that a two-state solution should be avoided at all costs.

And his "friends in high places" are in the US - can you really imagine that the US would allow an Israeli Prime Minister to be brought to the Hague? But realistically they would be much less likely (or able) to interfere in internal affairs.

And even putting Gaza aside, do you support his actions in the West Bank? Do you really think this is protective for Israelis, let alone legal or humane towards Palestinians?

As of March 2025 nearly three quarters of Israelis thought Netanyahu should take responsibility for 7/10 and resign, so they clearly don't see him as the right person to keep Israel safe.

I really hope that the news that the first phase of the peace deal has been accepted by both sides is a real chance for lasting peace, with both sides held to account to ensure all terms and conditions are adhered to.

Morningsleepin · 09/10/2025 11:48

I can't comment on public opinion in the UK but where I live people are more and more outraged at the genocide

JKLolling · 09/10/2025 18:43

Morningsleepin · 09/10/2025 11:48

I can't comment on public opinion in the UK but where I live people are more and more outraged at the genocide

Do you live in Ireland by chance?

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Swiftie1878 · 09/10/2025 19:18

Morningsleepin · 09/10/2025 11:48

I can't comment on public opinion in the UK but where I live people are more and more outraged at the genocide

It’s the same in the UK.

salterer · 09/10/2025 21:04

Leave alone the UK the tide is turning among Israelis, lol. Pissing myself laughing at the posters earnestly insisting that the UK is turning pro genocide.

https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1975728073585656012

SilencedSirs◼️ (@SilentlySirs) on X

“I believe Hamas more than I believe my Prime Minister.” Even inside Israel — the illusion is cracking.

https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1975728073585656012

TessSaysYes · 09/10/2025 21:11

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noblegiraffe · 09/10/2025 21:35

What's mad is that people think if you are pissed off with people supporting terrorists on the streets of the UK you must be pro-Israel.

Why are people so black and white in their thinking?

It is entirely possible to be appalled at what Israel are doing and also appalled at people being pro-Hamas in the UK.

CasperGutman · 09/10/2025 22:01

I'm horrified by the way Israel has behaved and is behaving towards Palestinians in Gaza and also in the West Bank. I also think the pro-Palestine protests a week after the Manchester synagogue attach or even more so on the 7th October were a mistake though. It came across as really unpleasant and so, so ill-judged. You're never going to win people over by looking like you're celebrating such things.

Shirleycatlady · 10/10/2025 02:36

Israel is demonised for defending itself...and for being a single Jewish homeland and civilised...surrounded by failed states where women are treated horribly and gays are murdered. I'm so sick of the accusation of genocide...Hamas use their own people as human shields, and the lack of birth control means that every house is packed with people and kids...they literally crave the death of children as martyrs in a propaganda war that has drawn in left wing libs who are ignorant of history. Why won't Hamas allow civilians to shelter in their tunnels. They want civilians deaths. Israel is blamed for being better armed and determined to defend the one Jewish state...One...And the sickos who celebrated Oct 7th are disgusting people who deserve to be deported. You hate Jews and use Gaza as an excuse and free Palestine as a means to give your empty middle class lives meaning. There are so many horrific wars around the world but it's ok if north Africans murder and rape black Africans...you don't care...but if Western allies go after evil psychopaths then that's a trigger for virtue signalling idiots. Gaza marches are about Islamist antisemitism...Uni students have such low IQ that they don't realise that they are just useful fools for terrorists. I wish Israel would wipe Hamas out then we'd never have to hear about them again.

Nestingbirds · 10/10/2025 07:13

CasperGutman · 09/10/2025 22:01

I'm horrified by the way Israel has behaved and is behaving towards Palestinians in Gaza and also in the West Bank. I also think the pro-Palestine protests a week after the Manchester synagogue attach or even more so on the 7th October were a mistake though. It came across as really unpleasant and so, so ill-judged. You're never going to win people over by looking like you're celebrating such things.

And support now from the public has drained away.

Unfortunately death cults like Hamas do not value human life. The people of Palestine are being used as pawns - Hamas considers them to be martyrs for the cause. Their suffering is irrelevant. That is a very difficult starting point for any country trying to broker a peace deal of any kind wouldn’t you say?

I have spent a lot of time in the ME and culturally, historically and in all ways they are very different as a race. The values are very different, even basic values and outlooks. A lot of work will need to be done to bridge the gap. Raising the living standard in Palestine would be a good start and an internationally recognised state. A healthy government willing to work for the people.

CasperGutman · 10/10/2025 07:29

Nestingbirds · 10/10/2025 07:13

And support now from the public has drained away.

Unfortunately death cults like Hamas do not value human life. The people of Palestine are being used as pawns - Hamas considers them to be martyrs for the cause. Their suffering is irrelevant. That is a very difficult starting point for any country trying to broker a peace deal of any kind wouldn’t you say?

I have spent a lot of time in the ME and culturally, historically and in all ways they are very different as a race. The values are very different, even basic values and outlooks. A lot of work will need to be done to bridge the gap. Raising the living standard in Palestine would be a good start and an internationally recognised state. A healthy government willing to work for the people.

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I think you need to be careful here.

"Support from the public has drained away" - support for whom? I don't think there has been widespread support from the public for Hamas at any point in the last two years, so that hasn't drained away. I also don't think most people have changed their minds about Israel's actions in Gaza being disproportionate and at least tantamount to genocide, so public support for Palestinian people in general is still there.

What has changed is perhaps support for the protestors, who showed themselves to be so very insensitive by timing protests so disgustingly.

Oh, and did you really write "in all ways they are very different as a race"? Hmm. Do you think that might be a bit, I don't know, racist? I mean, how can it not be?

Thegreyhound · 10/10/2025 07:35

The tide is not turning against the pro Palestinian movement- far from it, millions across the globe support the Palestinian cause and will never see things the same way again after this last two years of slaughter.
Bots can flood every social media site in the universe to little avail.
Here are the names of the over 18000 children known to have been slaughtered. Please read them all. List of children
When journalists go in to Gaza the world will see even more the horrors enacted

Young lives cut short on an unimaginable scale: the 18,457 children on Gaza’s list of war dead

Every name on a list compiled by health authorities in Gaza of the child victims of Israel’s offensive

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/oct/08/young-lives-cut-short-on-an-unimaginable-scale-the-18457-children-on-gazas-list-of-war-dead

soupyspoon · 10/10/2025 07:42

What is the Palestinian cause exactly

OutOfDateTreacle · 10/10/2025 07:58

EmpressoftheMundane · 07/10/2025 22:03

Planning to protest on October 7th, following through after the Yom Kippur murders in Manchester, marching with faces covered….

It sure looks more like antisemitism than it does a peace protest.

Also not sure how protesting in London helps. UK has already decided to recognise Palestine as a state. What do they expect Khan or Starmer to do? What does it do other than frighten and harrass our domestic Jewish population?

Correct.

Thegreyhound · 10/10/2025 08:12

18457 dead children

noblegiraffe · 10/10/2025 09:38

Thegreyhound · 10/10/2025 08:12

18457 dead children

It's absolutely devastating. Unbelievably horrific. Undeniably war crimes and justice should be served.

Are you suggesting, however, that if your cause is good enough, you can do and say what you like?

People are turning against the protestors supporting terrorists and calling for more deaths, more destruction, and blatantly doing it on the day of the murder of Jews and the anniversary of the massacre of Jews all the while claiming that they are not antisemitic.

salterer · 10/10/2025 15:45

Of course it's racist. The mask always slips. They're superior, and that's why they deserve to take someone else's land and kill whoever is in the way of it.

Another case in point, look at @Shirleycatlady 's post. That race doesn't even love their children, apparently they actually CRAVE the death of their children, in her own words.

Stompythedinosaur · 10/10/2025 15:47

Social media is just more likely to show you people who agree with you.

You can tell by the large numbers of people still attending that the feeling that genocide is wrong is still there.

Nestingbirds · 10/10/2025 18:35

Thegreyhound · 10/10/2025 08:12

18457 dead children

i can’t see how those figures have been verified.

BlakeCarrington · 11/10/2025 08:13

I see today’s hate march in London is still planning to go full steam ahead despite the peace plan being implemented.

Of course they are still marching. It has never been about wishing for peace for them, the marches have always been an outlet to proudly display their antisemitism and intimidate Jews.

Makemineacosmo · 11/10/2025 08:15

RedLeggedPartridge · 07/10/2025 22:00

I think most people remain both appalled at Hamas and appalled at Israel’s actions. I don’t think much has changed with regards to opinions.

Yes, I agree.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/10/2025 10:28

BlakeCarrington · 11/10/2025 08:13

I see today’s hate march in London is still planning to go full steam ahead despite the peace plan being implemented.

Of course they are still marching. It has never been about wishing for peace for them, the marches have always been an outlet to proudly display their antisemitism and intimidate Jews.

Exactly, BlakeCarrington, but never mind; the weather looks decent and it'll produce a few more nice pics for the marchers' Insta accounts Hmm

BewaretheIckabog · 11/10/2025 10:37

Surely, with a ceasefire in Gaza, today’s protests should be to stop all the ongoing wars where children are still dying and real genocides are still happening.

But of course other wars and other causes aren’t so popular.

JKLolling · 11/10/2025 11:04

There's a ceasefire now, a good chance to give peace a chance.

The fact the marches are going ahead today proves it isn't about Gaza, it's about hating the Jews. These people are too stupid to realise how bad it looks and how transparent their behaviour is. I'd be annoyed but they are just hammering another coffin into their standing in public opinion

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JKLolling · 11/10/2025 11:07

What's the famous mumsnet saying? When people show you who they are, believe them

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