To feel like the tide of public opinion has turned against the pro-palestine protestors

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Every social media feed I have is full of irate people commenting on pro-gaza protestors.

From people commenting on Greta Thunberg sharing the picture of the starving hostage and claiming it was a Palestinian (wtf was she thinking?!) , to the student saying Israelis should 'go back where they came from', there are thousands of angry comments. Lots of the protestors hiding their faces too, and on a local Uni group people are trying to name the protestors seen today and get them removed from their courses

I'm disgusted with what I've seen today, and it feels like the tide is turning and people are seeing these protests for what they really are: an opportunity for hate-filled morons to get together and intimidate people. I feel like they've completely ruined their cause just because they couldn't wait a day to protest.

Im not sure, I personally feel my stance has hardened against pro Palestine causes and protests simply because you cant be pro or anti one side or another. Its too nuanced for that.
Im clear that Israel need to be supported against Hamas and clear that I believe many or most Palestinians support Hamas and their methods, including the attack 2 years ago. And that is quite uncomfortable to think about.

It's not a competition though is it? You can be pro Palestine and still think that what Hamas did was fucking vile and horrible. If you can't see that then it's you who is the hate filled moron. Killing innocent civilians and taking them hostage is never justified and no one normal thinks it is. A genocide is never justified and no one will ever think it is.

This is just the latest luxury belief iteration.

Most of the protestors couldn’t point to Palestine or Gaza on a map.

I hope the Police do actually follow through with convictions as many of the left wing, middle class, entitled white people taking part will be shocked when they have to declare their convictions to employers and car/home insurers.

The protestors have no idea of what they’re actually protesting about, they’re anti-semitic, end of.

That last sentence... 🙄

Being against the Israeli government committing genocide is not the same as being anti Semitic.

I think most people remain both appalled at Hamas and appalled at Israel’s actions. I don’t think much has changed with regards to opinions.

How quickly people forget about WW2.
And let’s also not forget that Hamas is a terrorist organisation.

I think the protests are an absolute waste of time (ie they’ve had zero effect in bringing the conflict to an end), and also a massive waste of police resources.

They're well supported as well

The tide is definitely turning. The average age of certain demographics of the protesters has been steadily increasing.

The number of people who could plead ignorance to the hate at these marches dwindling.

Earlier at the London protest there was an old woman screaming that she 'of course supported Hamas, why wouldn't she?'

Planning to protest on October 7th, following through after the Yom Kippur murders in Manchester, marching with faces covered….

It sure looks more like antisemitism than it does a peace protest.

Also not sure how protesting in London helps. UK has already decided to recognise Palestine as a state. What do they expect Khan or Starmer to do? What does it do other than frighten and harrass our domestic Jewish population?

It's the 'get out of jail' card for the pro-Israeli supporters isn't it? Throw anti-Semitism in as a lazy auto response to anyone/country who supports the existence of a Palestinian state.

Expecting us to shut up and go away and allow the wiping out of a nation and a race of people. Now, where have we seen that before?

I think the media being more sympathetic towards Israel/Jews has probably affected things.

And people really do see that what happened in Manchester last week was wrong

How lazy are people's brains that they can't hold a number of opinions about things eh, or they can't learn from history.

The attack on the synagogue was WRONG.

Mass killing of Palestinians is also WRONG.

Blaming a mass of people for the actions of a few is WRONG.

There are lots of wrongs.

I think if the protestors were out holding candles and praying I would feel a lot more supportive. Screaming chants about Zionism and globalise the intifada, cutting down ribbons commemorating the hostages, going on camera and saying Israelis should leave Israel and go back to where they came from, the US and Poland when you are clearly desended from immigrants to the UK is all just vile idiotic behaviour and makes me think anyone having anything to do with these people is a wrong un

I don’t think much has changed in public opinion. People who think that there is a genocide aren’t suddenly going to change their mind by lone terrorists (Manchester attack), are they?

I don’t think the tide is turning. Lots of pro-Israeli propaganda and money flowing into social media and forums to try to drown out the truth and give the illusion of a change in tide? Yeah, that’s happening. All over mumsnet at the minute. Strange, isn’t it? There’s multiple subtle pro-Israeli threads daily at the minute. Really strange.

Yep, the Esther Project literally pays influencers to post pro-Israel content online.

Really strange that I've started a thread on the disgusting behaviour of protesters who are acting this way in public and on camera because I dislike it and have noticed that they are being widely condemned and disparaged in a way that wouldn't have happened even a couple of months ago?

Sadly no foreign government paid me for this post (would have been nice with Christmas coming though)

I do think there has been a significant shift in sentiment, OP. Or maybe just some people who were not comfortable to comment before, are doing so now.

I agree, I don't think the tide is changing either. Rather, both sides are becoming more staunch in their views.

The vast majority of the country thankfully stand against the genocide.

The genocide concern has not gone away - I suggest Facebook is feeding you what you want to hear. Maybe you should expand your reading sources.

My sense is that there is a real hardening of opinion against the Israeli government. The UK and others’ recognition of the Palestinian state, and increased condemnation of Israel, would be consistent with that.

I used to think (wanted to think) marchers were good hearted people who were naive about the amount of Jew hatred they were brushing up against (like Gary Lineker not noticing the rat…). But I can’t think that of the latest demonstrations - why march on Yom Kippur? Why straight after a murderous anti semitic attack, in the same city? And to march on Oct 7th - that can only be to celebrate Hamas’s attack can’t it? The invasion of Gaza hadn’t started then. So it can only be to mark the Oct 7th attacks…

So far as I’m aware, the genocide in Gaza didn’t stop for those events, so why should the protestors?